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Nessus posted:It is dismally plausible that she wouldn’t speak up until she had good friends and by then she might not have wanted to rock the boat. You’d think her little siblings would get it right tho, the little shits Too busy being kidnapped over and over again.
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rantmo posted:Too busy being kidnapped over and over again. I'm sure they have but I can not personally remember a time they've had a line of dialogue.
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Jan 10, 2023 17:05
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I've once had misinterpret a nickname as another name and they thought that was my name and called me that for the month I lived in their house, and I just rolled with it. Someone must have told them eventually after I left because I noticed they were calling me the name people most often associate with me when I visited. I never corrected them though.
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I know that any hierarchy among the X-Line is probably mostly imagined, but it was really weird to see what happened in regular X-Men this week VS Legion. One was sort of a relaxed character meditation and tying off a lingering storyline thread, while the other was event-level crazy poo poo
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Jan 11, 2023 21:44
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Are all x-books wrapping up for sins of sinister and then being relaunched? Is that why so many storylines are ending this month?
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:Are all x-books wrapping up for sins of sinister and then being relaunched? Is that why so many storylines are ending this month? I think it's just the ones directly tying in to SoS. So, Immortal, Legion, and Red.
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Nessus posted:It is dismally plausible that she wouldn’t speak up until she had good friends and by then she might not have wanted to rock the boat. You’d think her little siblings would get it right tho, the little shits You know, come to think of it, Karma did gently caress off for a real long time between Simonson's New Mutants and the later Abnett/Lanning run. I always figured it was because her powers are fairly hard to write around, but it'd be funny to establish that a non-trivial factor is that nobody at Xavier's could be hosed to say her name right.
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Wanderer posted:You know, come to think of it, Karma did gently caress off for a real long time between Simonson's New Mutants and the later Abnett/Lanning run.
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Wanderer posted:You know, come to think of it, Karma did gently caress off for a real long time between Simonson's New Mutants and the later Abnett/Lanning run. And even when she's in New Mutants she's doing things like 'being possessed by the Shadow King and getting morbidly obese' and 'lost in Asgard.'
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I can't believe they brought back Indra. Talk about Z list.
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Looks like the Beast stuff should wrap soon.
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Legion seems a lot like 'okay sure yeah big things happening no one will mention' :v
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I am so confused with everything going on in Legion. I feel like there are 4 or 5 stories going on and the scope for all is massive. We have horror secondary mutations caused by magic, whatever is going on with warlock, whatever Charles did to Legion, whatever is going in with mother righteous, and now Nimrod? Any one of these could be the main story but they just keep piling on. I’m also not sure what the books “purpose” is. They keep mentioning finding a Justice fit for Krakoa but i haven’t really seen any of that.
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Synesthesian Fetish posted:They keep mentioning finding a Justice fit for Krakoa but i haven’t really seen any of that. Agreed on this. There's been some attempt at suggesting the Pit is a bad idea and at least in the initial storyline (all I've read so far, via Unlimited), there's a sub-plot about this. But I guess I don't get the overall point given how much other stuff was going on in even that first story. I feel like I had the same issue with Way of X, where the initial issue set something really interesting up and then things got convoluted with a bunch of unrelated issues (remember the babies just being left around Krakoa?) introduced and then ignored. It feels like there's not an editor on this book telling Spurrier to dial it back.
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i am legitimately curious how they'll resolve all these problems, though. it's way too much!
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i am legitimately curious how they'll resolve all these problems, though. it's way too much! Legion accepts help from Mother Righteous. Which then ends up being a bad idea because of course Mother Righteous is the last Sinister clone.
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The two main threats of the Technarch psychic attack and the magical mutations seem to be a two-pronged attack by Orchis, given that they hired Margali Szardos and Nimrod is somehow manipulating the Technarch. The problem is that it feels like neither get enough set up given how many characters and plots the comic is juggling, and despite having the same origin don't actually seem that tied together. Additionally, they are pulling the characters away from the central conceit of the book ie solving inter-Krakoan conflict without resorting to traditional policing and incarceration. Like, it's really strange that all this is happening in this book instead of X-Men, X-Force, Red, Excalibur, etc. It feels like Spurrier has too many ideas and not enough comic, so he's just cramming them in wherever he can find space while also writing his pet characters.I agree with danbanna, there really needs to be an editor helping him focus and streamline the narrative.
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i hope the subtle indication that x-terminators is gonna be an ongoing in this week's X-Men is true
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site posted:i hope the subtle indication that x-terminators is gonna be an ongoing in this week's X-Men is true If we lived in a just timeline, it would run for ten years.
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Even if it doesn't become a title, I like the fact that those four are staying together to go on more crazy adventures. But please make it ongoing.
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If Fox News finds out about that last page in X-Men they will have a hissy fit a pregnant man? The woke agenda has gone too far!
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Joe Fisto posted:If Fox News finds out about that last page in X-Men they will have a hissy fit They already had a go at that with Joker from the issue the other week even though it wasn't close to the same thing.
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You know people have been talking about how much of a shitheel Beast has been that it only just hit me that I'm kind of tired of stories about how "Professor Xavier IS A JERK!" Like at this rate Magneto is more of a good guy. Like I get that he's never been a saint but I feel like people used to be happy/excited to see Charles and now every appearance has both readers and frequently characters in-comic going "What's that fucker up to now?"
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TwoPair posted:You know people have been talking about how much of a shitheel Beast has been that it only just hit me that I'm kind of tired of stories about how "Professor Xavier IS A JERK!" Like at this rate Magneto is more of a good guy. I really feel like we're due for a deeper internal look at Xavier, because I think you can play a lot of how he's been acting during the Krakoa era in particular as pretty cynical-- you almost get the sense he's deeply frustrated that Krakoa ended up being the only way, as Moira proved conclusively his way Could Not Work. None of this has been textually referenced, though, so he's just kind of self-important and cruel.
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The next issue of Immortal X-Men is going to be from Xavier's POV, so I think we'll get things from that. It was a good step in Legion of X, but yeah, I hope they move to more Xavier being a decent person and away from the Xavier sucks so much thing that's been going on a while.
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I thought the recent Infinity Comic with him getting ported to the Age of Apocalypse universe was quite good, quite illuminating. He definitely feels like Krakoa is moving on without him and is feeling lost without a real "dream" to anchor him (though he kinda gets his groove back by the end of that story) But yeah I've been bored by "dumb Xavier being bad" takes for a while now. It feels particularly annoying when other characters, like Magneto, do a whole lot of the exact same things he does but get idolized for it.
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xavier has had definite ups and downs as a leader, an educator, etc. that sort of inconsistency is inevitable with decades of comics written by many different writers. but one thing that is consistent is how he's always been completely terrible as david's father.
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On a positive note I like how Synch put on his gala best to go on his date with Old Laura. Maybe he'll just use that as his official look from now on? I mean he'd be, what, the third person after Jean and Storm (and maybe more? I can't remember) to start beating people up with his party clothes on, which is definitely what every X-Men should be doing.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:but one thing that is consistent is how he's always been completely terrible as david's father. I think that's part of the issue with Legion: you can't tell a Legion story reminding everyone that Xavier was a worse dad than Magneto. And I concur that "Xavier is a Jerk!" stories are getting old. Having reread the Muir Island Saga recently, there was so much good stuff about how everyone missed him, how important he is, etc. I think a few extra decades of writers making sure everyone knew he was flawed has resulted in everyone knowing he's a piece of poo poo.
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I hope Jean stays in here gala form moving forward. The Marvel Girl costume was fine for HoX/PoX but it was outdated to use long term
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It feels like the current X-Men writers aren't doing much with Chuck, beyond occasionally calling out his hypocrisy while he's off-panel, because they don't have a good story to tell with him yet. That said, Gillen has nailed every POV character he's tackled in Immortal, so I'm sure we will get something interesting there.
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danbanana posted:I think that's part of the issue with Legion: you can't tell a Legion story reminding everyone that Xavier was a worse dad than Magneto. xavier the beloved saint works better for their dynamic than xavier the petty, arrogant jerk. of course the rear end in a top hat no one likes is a bad dad. that's not very interesting at all.
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The original Kitty Pryde calling Xavier a jerk issue was funny enough not that unreasonable from Xavier's perspective. He planned to transfer her off the X-Men and onto the New Mutants as they were closer to her age and the New Mutants were not intended to be a Hero team. Kitty managed to convince him to let her stay on, with Xavier saying he had never seen her in action before properly as being a reason he was taking her off.
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MonsterEnvy posted:The original Kitty Pryde calling Xavier a jerk issue was funny enough not that unreasonable from Xavier's perspective.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:xavier the beloved saint works better for their dynamic than xavier the petty, arrogant jerk. of course the rear end in a top hat no one likes is a bad dad. that's not very interesting at all. I understand the need make "beloved saint" an actually interesting character but there's obviously ways to do that without making him a complete dick. It also hurts the Chuck-Mags dynamic, and maybe Magneto in general. If you make Magneto the complex "villain," and Chuck the complex "hero," that functionally moves them towards the same character. (Magneto will always be more interesting, in my opinion.) This is why I was pretty excited about Moira as the 3rd in that relationship (or maybe 4th, if you count Apocalypse), and I'm on record saying I think Hickman might have set them up for bungling that setup.
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They took "Professor Xavier is a jerk" and made it "Professor Xavier is an rear end in a top hat." He shouldn't be full on Machiavellian. The ends should not justify the means. Egregious violations should come from heat of the moment, do or die bad calls that he is then unable to go back on, not intricate plans thought up in advance. He should make regular right call/wrong reason and wrong call/right reason decisions though.
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Adder Moray posted:They took "Professor Xavier is a jerk" and made it "Professor Xavier is an rear end in a top hat." Agree with the last bit, but has he being full on Machiavellian? Granted, he kept Moira's existence secret, but he never seemed to have a long term plan beyond a vague "Don't let the machines win." His biggest sin on Krakoa, beyond his usual "terrible dad, blinded by privilege" issues has been the Pit, which he kind of just signed off on along with everyone else.
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The Pit's pretty hosed up. I wonder if it was only created to kick off that Sabretooth story, or if the Sabretooth story was inspired by the creation of The Pit. It mostly rubs me the wrong way because it doesn't feel like something the X-Men would come up with. Exile from Krakoa, sure: everyone's slate got wiped clean at the beginning but if you prove you can't play nice with others why should that invitation not be revoked? I even buy them clandestinely handing Sabretooth over to the US Government to put in one of their Supervillain Megaprisons. I dunno, maybe I'm not conceptualizing it properly. Maybe it's supposed to be less hosed up than it seems to me.
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