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Say I bought this E89 Z4: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209280204053 What would it cost roughly to get a heated steering wheel put in, ideally by a BMW dealer?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:im pretty sure most used cars have slimy steering wheels is because a lot of the population uses a lot of hand lotion
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Some crazy goon go rescue this 1990 535 5 sp MANUAL. https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/m-Exclusive-Motors-sp327325#listing=345860094/NONE    KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:im pretty sure most used cars have slimy steering wheels is because a lot of the population uses a lot of hand lotion Dealers grease up the seats and any exposed leather/vinyl on waay too many listings. It's like they have gallons of Armor All and that's it. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 11, 2023 |
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300k miles is pretty impressive for how clean that is , still don't know if I'd pay $7 grand for it though
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I just accidentally discovered the other night my new wagon actually does have keyless ignition! I didn't think it did, because I've never seen a keyless ignition system that still has a slot for the key[fob] lol. But like, I park the car, press the button and it kills the engine. Open the door and all the electronics stay on and I gotta hit it a second time? No big deal I guess, but my FoRS & FiST, IIRC, would just kill everything when you open the door and that is such a better implementation. Just gotta get used to needing to hit the button a second time. e; go buy my old one https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rkVLEVMl/2008-bmw-328xi-sports-wagon  those are water droplets on the driver side of the front bumper, I did a poor job drying my car before the photoshoot , not a million dents.
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That got me thinking “how hard could M3 rear quarter flares really be?” You just cut some metal off, weld in the M3 fender, smooth, then paint. Come on, can’t be that hard. 
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Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers
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Sab669 posted:I just accidentally discovered the other night my new wagon actually does have keyless ignition! I didn't think it did, because I've never seen a keyless ignition system that still has a slot for the key[fob] lol. The slot for the key fob is a backup for when the battery in the fob goes dead
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:That got me thinking “how hard could M3 rear quarter flares really be?” Expensive if you want it done well lol Also lmao having to actually have a serious thought at $18k to fix mine just back to stock. I could buy a nice auto for that much or hell a rough/damaged/salvaged M3.
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why not just roll the stock ones
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:why not just roll the stock ones This man has jokes
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Man, I love the manual transmission on my 1 series, but I pulled a hamstring in my left leg last week and drat I'm lucky I have a second car with an automatic. The BMW is like doing leg presses.
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Mine has 35k but this is otherwise a near-perfect twin. The previous owner of my car sent me this listing, and despite him owning a ND Miata, two GT3's, a GT4 and a GT4 RS on the way, he says "Miss everything about this car except the gas mileage." It'll be interesting to see if insane prices have cooled down a little. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2009-bmw-m3-coupe-15/
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19 hours left on this manual-swapped V8: https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KPjeowQL/1999-bmw-540i-touring?s=09 .jpg?t=167238527830)
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I finally got around to fitting a Turner Motorsports front undertray (to replace the busted factory tray) as well as a new underdrive pulley and Eventuri air filter kit on the E92 M3, and of course I break the nipple on the upper radiator hose so it's time to hunt for a spare parts supplier here in NL/EU. https://www.schmiedmann.nl/ is the one I normally use but they're coming up empty for the part number (11537838214). Is anyone else here in the EU and know any reputable OEM/OEM equivalent BMW parts suppliers? edit: Looks like https://www.autodoc.nl has non-OEM replacement parts so that should work. Also I discovered that one of the previous owners must have run into a low rock or bollard as the oil cooler is badly bent inwards, along with the aircon condenser. The factory undertray has clearly been repaired as well. The power steering cooler, radiator support and radiator itself look fine so it can't have been that hard, and I'm not seeing any evidence of leakage from the cooler nor had excessive oil loss over the last few years. However - is it worth replacing it with an aftermarket item if I'm planning some light track work and extensive autobahn driving? Bjork Bjowlob fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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No comment other than I think the eventuri products are extremely sexy, pics pls!
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TheBacon posted:No comment other than I think the eventuri products are extremely sexy, pics pls! Will do! I didn't spring for the airbox lid/cover however, even though it looks incredible. Their carbon manifold is extremely deluxe as well
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Yeah man, don’t mess around if it’s going to see track or high speed work. Just fix it.
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So I'm looking for alternatives to a Volvo V70 (estate) for a dog and (hopefully in the near future) kid friendly car. Apparently the difference in boot space is only 15 litres (in the Volvos favour) compared to a F11 5-series. Been looking at what the used market has to offer, and generally the mileage is a lot higher on the Volvos than on the BMWs (I don't know if this is a bad omen or just that Swedes tend to go for a Swedish car for company cars). Generally the interior in the BMW seems nicer and has a nicer layout. Of course rear wheel drive is a big bonus. I've been looking at the 5 cylinder petrol engines for the Volvos, so it'd probably be a 523i (N53B30) I'd go for on the BMW. Another potential bonus is that for some reason the BMW can pull 300kg more than the Volvo. Negative is that the Volvo 5-cylinder sounds amazing, and I'm not a huge fan of the BMW I6 sound. Price-wise the Volvos are retaining value like crazy here now, so not the best time to buy one. I've read the buyers guides (i.e. everyone keeps copying the same stuff), but I'd rather listen to what good have to say. I've got the impression that as far as BMWs go, the F10/F11 isn't that bad. I mean the Volvo isn't exactly Toyota reliability neither, but still. My wife likes the 5-series more from pictures so we'll have to go test drive one and see. I'll be doing all maintenance myself. Dumb idea? MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Kinda reaching an inflection point with my E92. Had a gas smell coming in through the vents, took it to my mechanic. He think's it's the clutch. I'll be taking it to a specialist to confirm that, but if it is the clutch, I'm not sure I want to keep putting money into the car. I suspect it's both the clutch and a fuel leak somewhere. It's got 118k miles on it right now, and is a very rare example: Le Mans blue, M-sport, 6-speed manual. I think I mentioned upthread that it needs some paint work, probably $2-3k worth. Options: 1. Keep the car, keep putting money into it. Would probably want to fix the paint ($2-3k) and clutch ($1.5k-2k). I think it needs new brakes as well. On the bright(?) side, I have replaced a ton of other things on it: all the control arms, steering column, oil filter housing gasket, blower motor, transfer case fluid. Tires are less than a year old. PO did the water pump and thermostat right before I bought it at 89k miles. I think it will need the serpentine belt done soon, so if I'm doing the clutch I'll probably get that done at the same time. Aside from the repairs, gas mileage, and how rough it rides, I loving love this car. If I were actually keeping it I would slap the 3-stage intake and drive it through 200k...if I can do it without the engine grenading. 2. Don't fix the car, just sell it with full disclosure to the buyer. Not sure whether this is the right move financially or not. I've been checking out my EV options, but not all that jazzed with what's out there. Obviously nothing is going to drive like an old 3-series, but it also won't murder my paycheck or leave me stranded. High upfront cost and done. If I stick with an ICE car I'm committed to 6MT and AWD, a combination that is made by no one anymore except Audi. And after my prior Audi ownership experience, hard pass. I guess I could get a RWD something and a winter beater, but then I am owning two potentially problematic cars. 3. Fix the car and keep it and also buy an EV. Technically I could afford this but I think it might be a bad financial choice, although I guess in some ways it's a cash flow situation apart from dual insurance. I guess my big question for this thread is: how much longer can I realistically expect the E92 to hold up? Or am I sitting on a ticking time bomb made of money and should just get rid of the loving thing? Yes, I realize that a Civic is the best financial choice, but I am making more than I used to and would like to drive the car of my preference within reason. KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Look I'm biased here obviously but I would probably keep the car, fix stuff, and wait a couple years. Here's my rationale: You have a bunch of money in the car and you're ahead of a lot of issues. Clutch is a wear item; if you do it now you don't need to do it for quite some time. Serp belt is doable at home. If you fix the fuel leak it's probably doing well for a while. Valve cover gaskets upcoming, maybe? But you're out in front of a lot of known problems. If you try to sell this car to the kind of person who cares enough to pay a premium they will want the work done. Otherwise, you take a bath on value if you sell with full disclosure and then you buy an EV and set yourself up for a monthly payment, which is a doubly bad idea financially. You're not going to be able to buy a better 6MT ICE car and owning two cars in greater Boston is a pain in the dick. Everyone's roadmap looks really good on the EV front and by like 2025 or so there will be a lot more more compelling options. If you're not stoked about what's out there don't buy something you don't like just to buy it.
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It seems some of the lunacy on pricing is lessening now so if you do have to move on to something new, it's probably not the worst time. $37,500 Ether Frenzy posted:19 hours left on this manual-swapped V8: Both of those went for moderately less than I would have anticipated based on the prices of things a year+ ago. I would buy that E92 all day long for $42,500 and I already own one that's nearly identical.
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https://i.imgur.com/imlJV9b.mp4 That's the amount of oil my car is burning after idling for about 2 minutes. I need to buy that new valve cover.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Look I'm biased here obviously but I would probably keep the car, fix stuff, and wait a couple years. One, we have a pretty good sense of the EV roadmap and it's 99% SUVs. Aside from the Ioniq 6, I don't know of a single upcoming EV sedan or coupe that's priced to compete with the Tesla Model 3 and Polestar 2. This loving sucks, of course. It sounds like I'll need to fix the clutch no matter what for a sale to make sense, I'd be losing money in value otherwise. The second problem is that there are certainly other things that could go wrong in the next 4-5 years that would result in a larger overall bath on value than the depreciation curve of a Tesla or Polestar. The AC compressor could fail ($2k.) The throttle body could go, or the catalytic converter, or a million other things that don't exist on EVs. On the other hand, I love this car. It's just...it's the same kind of love I had for my C5 A6. The kind where it steals your wallet and kicks you in the pants every now and then.
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Assuming that current state depreciation curves will hold is uh, not advisable. I think you, much like most enthusiasts, kind of have to get over it with the EV platform stuff. You're adding ride height so even nominal "sedans" like P2 are tall and kind of ungainly. What's the difference between like a P2 and a Niro EV? The Niro looks like a slightly tall hatchback, it's just called a CUV. Even the ID.3 is taller than the Golf and the Golf Variant. Just a fact of life and something you are going to probably have to accept if you buy an EV. Even the i4 and EQE and poo poo are chunkier than their ICE counterparts. I think you're likely to have a very dull relationship with whatever EV you ended up buying, which like if that's where you're at that's cool. But I don't get the sense from your posts that that's what you're really after. Just keep the E92 for a few years and hold out for a used Taycan.
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Comedy option, keep the e92, then electric swap it in 3-5 years, rent cars when you need to do trips longer than 500 miles/need to utilize your trunk that's now full of batteries
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:hold out for a used Taycan.
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I second Kyoon's points, the Serp belt on an N52 is really easy. Keep it a while longer. Also, a former boss would always just rent whatever was the best size new car for family road trips, and get insurance. Then it completely wasn't his problem. Something to be said for that. Further, if anyone was hoping to snag my 335xi M Sport with 6mt, sorry, it's parked on the charger while I get around to putting in monoball control arms. I bought a 440xi GC to daily, the B58 remains a lot of fun. I think my problem is that if I get a quickjack to make the 335 suspension work easy, I'm going to "while I'm in there, let's just upgrade the forced induction system to keep up with the blue car!" 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Assuming that current state depreciation curves will hold is uh, not advisable. This isn't the right thread for more talk about this tho - I thought there used to be a BFC thread, but can't find it. Anyway I love my dead gay BMW
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If the reasoning is purely financial I'd stick with the car you have. It takes a long time to recoup (if at all) the cost of the EV with saving in fuel. Also after reading a ton about it: Jesus the N53 engine seems to suck. As much as the F11 seems a perfect car for us, I'm not risking having to replace injectors @ €1600 and the troubles that leaky injectors can cause. Even stepping down to a 4-cylinder seems risky as they use the same injectors. The bigger engines are pretty costly insurance-wise (not worth it for the low amount of miles we drive). Real shame as I really like that generation of 5-series.
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MrOnBicycle posted:If the reasoning is purely financial I'd stick with the car you have. It takes a long time to recoup (if at all) the cost of the EV with saving in fuel. Paint $3,000 Yearly gas $2,340 Yearly maintenance $2,000 First year cost $7,340 By year 5 $24,700 Car value $5,000 Total cost $19,700 These are estimates ofc, and there are a few unobserved variables, like insurance. But the total cost might end up being equal in value to the depreciation of, say, a Model S with five years warranty left on it.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Ha, well, as your post is also identifying, it's the other costs that are the bigger issue. Here's my rough math of what it would cost to keep it for five years: Oof, yeah. I forget that the EV market and the fact that many people in the US have homes where they can charge / drive everywhere makes a pretty big difference. Right now I can't charge at home, winter makes the range take a dump, kWh costs makes driving it equal to a car with 10L/100km and I had to sit and wait for it to charge. I've not needed to drive the car at all this month. A base version model 3 lease here is about $830. I don't have a Tesla. I'm breaking my lease (thankfully VW is pretty generous when it comes to breaking it) and I worked out that I'll save more in the long run by taking the cancellation fee compared to just keeping it. Don't get me wrong, EV ownership was amazing for the first year when everything wasn't saturated, kWh prices were cheap (both home and on the road) and I was communting more. Right now the kWh prices for charging on the road here are like 60-80 cents / kWh. MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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Aren’t you failing to account for any other costs for the EV though? Like sure electricity is cheaper but it ain’t free, and while maintenance costs will be a lot lower they are again not zero. It seems like a very poor analysis to take your all in costs for one vehicle and compare them just to depreciation costs for another vehicle.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Aren’t you failing to account for any other costs for the EV though? Like sure electricity is cheaper but it ain’t free, and while maintenance costs will be a lot lower they are again not zero. Maintenance costs should be much lower, free? if under warranty but that is partially offset by higher insurance premium. I was nearly double the insure the i3 over the cayman for example, EV insurance is strangely expensive.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Aren’t you failing to account for any other costs for the EV though? Like sure electricity is cheaper but it ain’t free, and while maintenance costs will be a lot lower they are again not zero.  The load bearing thing here is car value - that is just a KOTEX estimate and could vary wildly - but even if the Model S drops by quite a bit more it could still come out equivalent to keeping my stinky old E92.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Maintenance costs should be much lower, free? if under warranty but that is partially offset by higher insurance premium. I was nearly double the insure the i3 over the cayman for example, EV insurance is strangely expensive. Most EVs have relatively high rates of tire consumption due to weight and torque and stuff. Maintenance is non warranty. Repairs are warranty.
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My staggered E92 seems to eat a set of tires every 3 years, so
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If y’all want to argue or rage, point it my way. The iX M60 I ordered in what, September?, finally is in the system and has a production slot in week 8. Its me, I’m part of the problem. It might even arrive before they insist on my overextended lease car back….
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