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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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Zeroisanumber posted:Finland joining NATO is absolutely an upset of the status quo. Even assuming that Russia achieves its goals in Ukraine, suddenly sharing 850 miles of border with an adversary is a big loss. The gently caress do you get subs in and out of the Baltic when NATO goes from the GIUK Gap to the Helsinki-Talinn Gap? Norway and Denmark were founding members of NATO, I think the Russians have understood the difficulties of leaving the Baltic for a long time. Finland doesn't actually border the Arctic Ocean, so nothing has changed for the Northern Fleet.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 21:30 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 01:09 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Sweden just announced finding the world's largest rare earth mineral supply so Operation Swedish Freedom is being drafted as we speak I thought it was something like an estimated million tons, versus Chinas 44 million?
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 21:39 |
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you guys do realize that weve moved past the point of population number mattering all that much in todays military landscape right? while yes pool of recruits is a thing we're not in 1942 where people were churning out tanks and pulping people by the millions
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 21:50 |
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One in fifteen young Ukrainian men died of suicide or alcohol abuse in the twenty years after the collapse of the Soviet Union. For the 500,000 Soviet men who were conscripted into cleaning up the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, the rate was one in ten.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 21:51 |
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Considering that both sides are conscripting people, it clearly matters at least a little.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 21:51 |
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Actually it doesnt matter and tankies need to keep on tanking. Ukraine will win, Zelensky is handsome, don't care, not listening, too long didn't read.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:06 |
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Chamale posted:One in fifteenyoung Ukrainian men died of suicide or alcohol abuse in the twenty years after the collapse of the Soviet Union. For the 500,000 Soviet men who were conscripted into cleaning up the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, the rate was one in ten. and we thank them for their service e TO BE CLEAR: their service cleaning up the Chernobyl exclusion zone. idc about the other stuff
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:11 |
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mlmp08 posted:Pipelines are mysterious!
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:16 |
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Why not a Chernobyl Inclusivity Zone? Typical racist Russia
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:18 |
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Al-Saqr posted:you guys do realize that weve moved past the point of population number mattering all that much in todays military landscape right? while yes pool of recruits is a thing we're not in 1942 where people were churning out tanks and pulping people by the millions Given that Ukraine currently has a million men in military and security roles out of a total pool of ~4-5 million I'd say it does matter. Each successive wave of conscription will be of lower quality, like there's not actually 4 million dudes fit for military service and those who haven't joined or who have put more effort into avoiding conscription will average less willingness to fight. To put it in terms you're more familiar with, they will fail their morale tests and run away.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:25 |
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https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1613925248411246592 Brave German journalist faces off again the propaganda arm of a fascist regime.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:27 |
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Yeah, considering conscription is happening, this war has progressively looked more like wars of the past. Either way, the arguement is about longevity and how long the war could go on before serious manpower issues occur. My arguement is that the Ukrainians would see it significantly quicker than the Russians if only not only the pre-war disparity in numbers, but the amount of Ukrainians that have left along with those who are already recruited or otherwise "accounted for." In addition, I believe in any modern society there is going to be a maximum threshold of who will actually want to go to war (obviously this includes the Russians as well). Of course, the Ukrainians are short on many fronts, but manpower is going to be hard cap. Perhaps the West could scrounge more ammo or tanks, or up the training they are doing etc but there is only so many men to go around (and I think the volunteer card has been mostly played already). (Also, yeah, Ukraine is a large country, much of it rural, if you don't want to be found it isn't going to be that easy for the state to track you down without engaging in manhunts, and who are hiding in forests and basements are probably not going to be tremendous fighters for your side.) The addition of foreign forces outright would be well..a bit spicy especially since they would have to be significant in the sense of an actual army on the ground (and an actual NATO force would just be WW3). Ardennes has issued a correction as of 22:39 on Jan 13, 2023 |
# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:30 |
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succccccc https://twitter.com/newsaboutturke1/status/1507904471187312650SplitSoul posted:Swedish government apoplectic over hanging of Erdogan effigy as Türkiye opens probe. NATO ascension going great. lmfao
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:37 |
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/gravel sounds in throat warm greetings
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:39 |
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I could see things get real messy if Erdogan engages in mass voter fraud/delays the election/engages in a self-coup (or a dozen other great ideas) in June. I mean on one hand, a lot of people are sick of Erdogan and want him out, but would the West actually push for regime change if he doesn't go? Turkey is not only NATO but absolutely strategic and it really seems like it would be playing with fire especially if Erdogan holds on.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 22:42 |
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1613925248411246592 i never thought the fascists would turn on me, says liberal who has been screaming about how you must unconditionally support the fascists for almost a year straight
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 23:15 |
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The whole does Ukraine have enough conscripts or not isn't that important. The question is will Russia attempt another real offensive. Nobody wants to believe that they will, but it's not like they have much of an alternative. Anyway, still have to wait for Bakhmut to play out. Presumably it's only a matter of time after Soledar.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 23:32 |
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Lostconfused posted:The question is will Russia attempt another real offensive. Nobody wants to believe that they will, but it's not like they have much of an alternative. I don't see any way Russia doesn't attempt a serious offensive next spring, at the latest.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 23:49 |
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Lostconfused posted:The whole does Ukraine have enough conscripts or not isn't that important. There is some speculation that the reason why Surovikin was "replaced" by Gerasimov (Gerasimov out-ranked Surovikin even when Surovikin was in charge of the Ukriane operation) is because there is going to be quite a large offensive kicking off soon and the Russians wanted to have the chief of the general staff (with all the additional resources he would have access to) in charge of the operation instead of one of his deputies. Probably some wishful thinking, but potentially a signal that a big shift in the situation on the ground could be happening soon.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 23:50 |
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Starsfan posted:There is some speculation that the reason why Surovikin was "replaced" by Gerasimov (Gerasimov out-ranked Surovikin even when Surovikin was in charge of the Ukriane operation) is because there is going to be quite a large offensive kicking off soon and the Russians wanted to have the chief of the general staff (with all the additional resources he would have access to) in charge of the operation instead of one of his deputies. Probably some wishful thinking, but potentially a signal that a big shift in the situation on the ground could be happening soon. The thing is going to be the weather/hydrology though and that is something the Russians don't have control over. I didn't get a sense there was politics behind the decision (it seems like there would have been more coming out), but at the same time, I don't know if a late January, February, or even a March offensive would be the right call.
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# ? Jan 13, 2023 23:55 |
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https://twitter.com/KristiRaik/status/1613590182300909568
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 00:53 |
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lol "used to be"
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 00:55 |
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Ahhhhhhjjjjj
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 00:56 |
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I'm actually mad.
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:04 |
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Endman posted:I'm actually mad. , but https://twitter.com/KristiRaik/status/1613590183991021569
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:19 |
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Motherfucker is called Raik
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:21 |
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soviets should have 100% invaded western europe
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:23 |
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Ukraine may be preparing to use chemical weapons against Russian troops, the Russian Embassy in the United Kingdom said on Twitter, commenting on a video made by Ukrainian servicemen earlier. "A video published by Ukrainian military apparently shows them preparing to use chemical weapons, possibly phosgene, prohibited by UN CWC [Chemical Weapons Convention], against Russian military," the embassy said, posting the video. "Letters "OB" stand for toxic munition. This also explains why the gas cylinders need to be stored in the fridge," Russian diplomats added. According to the video, Ukrainian servicemen were planning to install those cylinders on strike drones.
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:24 |
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A day late but lolWhy the North Won, 1960 posted:Like all American soldiers in all wars, the Confederate soldiers disliked military discipline. Mississippi volunteers shirked assignments which they found tedious, declaring "they did not enlist to do guard duty but to fight the Yankies." At the outbreak of the war, when wealthier soldiers received onerous orders, some coolly instructed their Negro servants to carry them out, meanwhile uncomplainingly taking "upon themselves the duty of sitting on the fence and superintending the work." Others hired substitutes to perform their chores. "The two or three men of the overseer class who were to be found in nearly every company," George Cary Eggleston recalled, "turned some nimble quarters by standing other men's turns of guard-duty at twenty-five cents an hour." It's so funny that these are the guys who were so committed to slavery they fought the bloodiest war in American history over it. Like these guys who think you can just go home for the weekend in a modern war, they're the ones who started a civil war against an industrialized society? Wild. Also, I know Matt Karp touched on this in his recent book, but I think it also connects to what we were talking about "Race" and identity formation often being politically determined: By 1860 the South had started to conceive of themselves as a separate race from their erstwhile countrymen. Not only that but an ancient one locked in eternal conflict with forces of darkness . Normans and Saxons: Southern Race Mythology and the Intellectual History of the American Civil War Dzhon S. Kalhyn (I hope somebody gets this) posted:When Representative Preston Brooks of South Carolina savagely caned Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts on the floor of the U.S. Senate on May 21, 1856, Southerners viewed the attack as a triumphant affirmation of southern chivalry, while Northerners saw it as a confirmation of southern barbarity. Public opinion was similarly divided nearly three-and-a-half years later after abolitionist John Brown's raid on the Federal arsenal at Harper's Ferry, Virginia. Northerners crowned John Brown as a martyr to the cause of freedom, while Southerners excoriated him as a conscience fanatic. These events opened American minds to the possibility that North and South might be incompatible societies, but some of Dixie's defenders were willing to go one step further - to propose that Northerners and Southerners represented not just a "divided people" but two scientifically distinct races. I just started skimming it and it's pretty wild, but also familiar. The construction of a mythological Southern racial identity in the antebellum United States was happening at the same time as the construction of a similarly mythologized racial identity by Galician nationalists in Austria-Hungary. Both groups encountered emerging currents of scientific racism and nationalism while belonging to a "multinational" state. Essentially, what do you do with the desire of the ruling class and emerging middle class to say "Hey, we're special and unique, and we deserve X", when they're part of a larger polity, and not substantially ethnically or linguistically differentiated from their rivals within the state? In the antebellum South, the myth of a distinct Norman-Cavalier racial identity was first used to justify slavery, Southerners are born natural masters, that sort of thing. (Well first it justified planters bringing their English peasant servants with them to the New World, but slavery followed soon after). This myth was "We Southerners are the fancy and noble ones, unlike those common Northerners (and therefore we deserve slaves)." It transformed an economic mode of production into first a culture, then a race that needed to be protected from, for lack of a better word, genocide. Matt Karp demonstrates they first attempted this through controlling American politics and turned to succession when that became impossible. The Galician nationalists also constructed a distinct racial identity for themselves, to justify their place in the socio-economic order and jockey for influence in the Dual Monarchy, which has been explained previously. This required creating a mythology that presented a unique culture, history, and ethnicity to differentiate them from other Slavic groups that did not share their status. "We Galicians are special and unique, not just in our relationship with Vienna but in some essential sense". Their "racial" attitudes and myths changed as political fortunes waxed and waned. When they had a good deal of power and influence locally, in periods where Pan-Slavism and Polish nationalism receded, the Galicians imagined themselves as an all-conquering master race claiming their birthright. When Polish and Russian influences were strong, they depicted themselves as an aggrieved people, persecuted and threatened with genocide. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 01:28 on Jan 14, 2023 |
# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:25 |
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I wouldn't get too mad about it, Europeans are going to learn all about colonialism when America does it to them.
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:27 |
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i assume most of ukraine smells like this anyway
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:28 |
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Oh weird, the people who said they needed to draw NATO into a war in order to win in 2023 are doing the Syria thing, who could have possibly, ever, seen this coming. I wonder what the guys who spent the past media cycle growing increasingly hysterical about NATO not doing enough, seeing their position on the battlefield start to give way, were planning to do about it? The very media savvy people who have the entire western media in their pocket and sold obvious bullshit to rapturous applause - Ghost of Kiev, Snake Island, more I've forgotten. The guys who got a poo poo tonne of weapons after the media circus around Bucha. Oh well. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 01:31 on Jan 14, 2023 |
# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:29 |
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Ukraine credits local beavers for unwittingly bolstering its defenses — their dams make the ground marshy and impassable https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-says-defenses-stronger-thanks-beavers-dams-2023-1?utm_source=reddit.com huge if true
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:41 |
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That's funny cuz ur mom's beaver is completely indefensible
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:45 |
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luv me some ukrainian beavers
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 01:45 |
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Ardennes posted:I could see things get real messy if Erdogan engages in mass voter fraud/delays the election/engages in a self-coup (or a dozen other great ideas) in June. I mean on one hand, a lot of people are sick of Erdogan and want him out, but would the West actually push for regime change if he doesn't go? Turkey is not only NATO but absolutely strategic and it really seems like it would be playing with fire especially if Erdogan holds on. Mass voter fraud is 100% a-ok with the West. Happens internally all the time. This seems like a combo of want and hope.
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 02:01 |
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 02:04 |
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Not sure Ukraine wants to go down the road of using chemical weapons in the conflict, Russia surely has a bunch of that poo poo of their own and the Ukrainians are the ones that tend to rely on massed infantry to take or hold positions. Seems like potentially a bad decision to open up that door.
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 02:05 |
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Yah but they're cheap and easy to produce.
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 02:07 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 01:09 |
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We're in this situation because western money bought yeltsin the presidency so let's not undersell that influence
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# ? Jan 14, 2023 02:19 |