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Hwurmp posted:Like a Dragon is the first Yakuza with turn-based combat. The mechanics might be a little basic compared to P5R but Yakuza owns Yeah I know it's typically a brawler, my friend was telling me to play Kiwami first but I'm looking to play another turn based thing I think. I just wasn't sure how lost I'd be story-wise.
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explosivo posted:Steam thread, I finished P5R and was thinking about keeping this train rolling and checking out Yakuza Like a Dragon but I've never played a Yakuza game before. I really liked the social stuff and numbers-going-up aspect of P5R but also was surprised with how much I loved the turn based combat. Is Like a Dragon going to scratch a similar itch and also is it going to be okay jumping into this series at Yakuza 7? Yakuza 7 is great, but it's definitely designed more as "a Yakuza game with turn-based combat" than "a JRPG with a Yakuza theme", if that makes any sense. The combat is closer to Dragon Quest, so it's not as complex as P5. It works fine as an entry point for the series though, has a new protagonist and everything. There are references to old games, but it's nothing critical.
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explosivo posted:Yeah I know it's typically a brawler, my friend was telling me to play Kiwami first but I'm looking to play another turn based thing I think. I just wasn't sure how lost I'd be story-wise. I started 7 earlier this month. Its basically a new story with new characters. Ive played 0 through 3 and don't see anyone that I recognize. Maybe theres some people in it from the later games, but it doesn't matter. Also I'm running around town giving tissues to people in bathrooms and feeding other people some really spicy kim chi
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When it comes to Nioh, game 1 seems to have good reviews around the 70% mark, while Nioh 2 lands around 85%+. Nioh 1 goes for deep discounts during sales. With all that in mind, if I am interested in trying these games out, should I start with 1, or just jump to the better received 2 right away?
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Jan 14, 2023 20:39
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Go straight to 2. nioh 2 is a strange thing where it’s the exact same game as 1 and simultaneously also better in every way. Also, all of nioh’s content is in nioh 2 except for the levels and some of the bosses.
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KazigluBey posted:When it comes to Nioh, game 1 seems to have good reviews around the 70% mark, while Nioh 2 lands around 85%+. Nioh 1 goes for deep discounts during sales. With all that in mind, if I am interested in trying these games out, should I start with 1, or just jump to the better received 2 right away? I think it's better to at least try 1 first. The sequel is better in every way, which makes it really hard to go back to the first after you play it. Also the sequel kind of assumes you know the basic mechanics and starts layering on more immediately, so it could be overwhelming. But, Nioh 2 is way better, and the plot actually starts before the first game chronologically, so it's perfectly fine to start there.
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Thanks for the input on LAD, sounds like I shouldn't expect combat anywhere near Persona which I'm fine with. It's gamepass so if I am not digging it then meh. I went into P5R saying the same thing though very much not expecting to finish it so who knows!
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KazigluBey posted:When it comes to Nioh, game 1 seems to have good reviews around the 70% mark, while Nioh 2 lands around 85%+. Nioh 1 goes for deep discounts during sales. With all that in mind, if I am interested in trying these games out, should I start with 1, or just jump to the better received 2 right away? Nioh 2 is better in every way but also has like twice the amount of gameplay mechanics. Just start with Nioh 2. You don't need to figure out all the mechanics at once and also who gives a poo poo about the story. It's not even the same protagonist.
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I play soulslikes quite a bit and I found all the mechanics Nioh 2 throws at you right away pretty overwhelming and dropped it fast. No idea if I would’ve had a better time of it if I’d started with 1, haven’t tried that one yet.
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KazigluBey posted:When it comes to Nioh, game 1 seems to have good reviews around the 70% mark, while Nioh 2 lands around 85%+. Nioh 1 goes for deep discounts during sales. With all that in mind, if I am interested in trying these games out, should I start with 1, or just jump to the better received 2 right away? If money's no obstacle then Nioh 2 is the better game, but if you're interested in them and budget-oriented and Nioh 1's like 75% off while Nioh 2 is not then I'd just pick up the first game in the meantime, it's still good videogaming (with a weak opening level).
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chglcu posted:I play soulslikes quite a bit and I found all the mechanics Nioh 2 throws at you right away pretty overwhelming and dropped it fast. No idea if I would’ve had a better time of it if I’d started with 1, haven’t tried that one yet. I've beaten all the soulsborne stuff and Nioh 1 was too much and I bounced off it pretty hard
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Souls games are actually very approachable by design, hence their widespread mainstream popularity. Nioh 1 and 2 are rather more technical and a lot more fiddly for somewhat less benefit to the player, but instead scratch an action-diablo itch.
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as i've often stated here, i loved the "mechanics" of nioh 1, i just loathed the loot vomit aspect, which may or may not count as a "mechanic"
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Cowcaster posted:as i've often stated here, i loved the "mechanics" of nioh 1, i just loathed the loot vomit aspect, which may or may not count as a "mechanic" Killed the whole game for me, just couldn't stand how the gear was done in that game
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I helped two friends get into Nioh 2 after playing it for some time myself. They were too impatient to ever continue playing any Soulslike before but getting them over the initial hump was enough to spark their interest.
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release date updates: Dread Templar 1.0 releases on the 26th, Backwirefall releases on the 30th, and Rhythm Sprout launches on February 1st.
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It's worth repeating how good nioh 2 is as a multiplayer game. it's much easier and much more chill in multiplayer and you can play almost the entire thing start to finish that way. only a couple very brief story bits and optional 1v1 duel/dojo missions have to be done singleplayer. I played nioh 1 solo and bounced off of it, then played nioh 2 multiplayer and thought it was one of the best action games I've played. Plus if you really get into it there's a massive amount of content to chew through since the complete edition on steam has all the DLCs, which not only add a bunch of missions but amount to 5 playthroughs/difficulties/NG+ cycles total. we did 3 NG+ cycles of it because each cycle changes the game in meaningful ways and still didn't even see the Underworld, some kind of insane endgame place with 100+ mini levels that only appears after the fourth cycle.
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Begemot posted:Yakuza 7 is great, but it's definitely designed more as "a Yakuza game with turn-based combat" than "a JRPG with a Yakuza theme", if that makes any sense. The combat is closer to Dragon Quest, so it's not as complex as P5. The one thing I see people get tripped up on is job changing. It's very similar to Dragon Quest VII where only a few things cross over between jobs (stat boosts and a couple attacks per job) so it might not be immediately obvious why you would want to ever switch characters out of their base jobs. You can get away with doing pretty much whatever for the first 75 percent of the game but later on you'll definitely want some of the advanced abilities (and especially elemental attacks) from various jobs on your party members. You can level up jobs quicker later on so don't worry about it too much, just something to keep in mind. Re: One Piece, I love OP but I kind of hate the post-timeskip character designs. Usopp and Nami got it the worst but I don't feel like any of them are really an upgrade, and they always look really weird to me in 3D.   these characters used to be so cute!
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Nioh's Double Flux is one of the most satisfying to do mechanics. It's up there with Metal Gear Rising parries.
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nioh 2 has more in common with character action games than souls game by the time you start doing NG++ to be honest it rules
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I liked it a lot when I played it back in 2020, and it's gotten quite a few updates since then. Plays very similarly to Salt & Sanctuary or Ender Lillies with some interesting ideas on the whole Soulstroidvania formula. Killer soundtrack. Don't try to make any sense of the story though -- the script is basically 100% machine-translated and you'll absolutely need a guide to get the "best" ending on the first playthrough, if that kind of thing really bothers you. Has some very soulslike obtuse quests and areas that can be easy to miss.
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Black Griffon posted:Anyone have opinions on the Sororitas DLC for Warhammer Inquisitor? I got it and it didn't really shake up the game enough to keep me interested. I didn't play with the magical girl tranformation mechanic much at all though so maybe it's more fun that way.
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ultrafilter posted:Any particularly strong opinions on Vigil: The Longest Night? it's not the best. It has a very large world and not enough interesting content to fill it with, so a lot of your time spent clearing through massive areas is just finding dead end after dead end with shinies that turn out to be "3 throwing knives" or similar, even up through the last area of the game. Exploration + world design is usually what you want to be the main engaging part of a metroidvania and it fell very flat in vigil. The other thing that usually makes metroidvanias worth playing is their presentation/vibes. Vigil has very good 2D art but chose to make the player character a 3D model and I thought this clashed horribly with the rest of the graphics. Artistically I was not a fan of a lot of the gory monster designs and environments which felt kind of edgy. The story/lore/english localization was incomprehensible. Balance was a mess. Early in the game I did an unintuitive quest that gave me a spell that completely trivialized almost everything for the remaining 80% of the game. This combined with the big world + sparse meaningful loot meant there wasn't much to exploration that could feel rewarding because I could already erase almost everything I encountered in seconds with this one spell. There have been a few substantial updates since I played it which might have improved some of these things, but I can't comment on that. If you haven't played Ender Lilies yet then definitely play that instead, it's a fantastic game.
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Diephoon posted:I got it and it didn't really shake up the game enough to keep me interested. I didn't play with the magical girl tranformation mechanic much at all though so maybe it's more fun that way. Alright, sounds like I should wait for a 50% deal if nothing else.
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Alright, thanks for the Nioh feedback. I'll try to get 1 on a deep discount sale but move onto 2 if 1 starts dragging or not clicking. The info regarding how 2 is great for multiplayer is very interesting as well, will see if someone I know is up for it. Cheers!
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explosivo posted:Yeah I know it's typically a brawler, my friend was telling me to play Kiwami first but I'm looking to play another turn based thing I think. I just wasn't sure how lost I'd be story-wise. Not lost at all. All of the characters are new and also homeless idiots who get into stupid adventures. The protagonist constantly states he's on a Dragon Quest-esque adventure and everyone else goes "....ok" You can also become a multimillionaire CEO by telling shareholders to both shut the gently caress up and occasionally apologizing to them. There's a mario Kart minigame as well. The only part that sucks is Mahjongg, but you can cheese it if you want by getting a Mahjongg app and playing it on the highest difficulty possible. Then, when you enter a game, enter the LAD computer's turns in as your turns and do what the EXTREME difficultly does on yours in LAD.
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chglcu posted:I play soulslikes quite a bit and I found all the mechanics Nioh 2 throws at you right away pretty overwhelming and dropped it fast. No idea if I would’ve had a better time of it if I’d started with 1, haven’t tried that one yet. Yeah just don’t play Nioh 2. Nioh 2 has a lot of complexity but wasn’t rewarding for that complexity
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exquisite tea posted:Don't try to make any sense of the story though -- the script is basically 100% machine-translated Was tentatively interested until this.
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Roadwarden is very good, y'all. Largely text based game with significant time management elements about being a Fantasy Highway Patrolperson, reestablishing contact with and between a bunch of dinky-rear end villages in a province that was abandoned when the imperial core experienced an invasion and/or minor apocalypse several decades ago.
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I know there is a thread for it, but is there an easy one click way to play a modernized Morrowind? I kind of want to play it, but I don't really feel like dealing with piles of mods and load orders and all that crap at the moment.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:Roadwarden is very good, y'all. Largely text based game with significant time management elements about being a Fantasy Highway Patrolperson, reestablishing contact with and between a bunch of dinky-rear end villages in a province that was abandoned when the imperial core experienced an invasion and/or minor apocalypse several decades ago. Road warden is really good. I'm trying to work up for a second run but I kinda did really well my first victory
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The real reason to skip straight to nioh 2 is that it has scampuss. https://i.imgur.com/lYQtLYW.mp4
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Jarvisi posted:Road warden is really good. I'm trying to work up for a second run but I kinda did really well my first victory I've got a Plan for my second run. It involves a mage start and White Marshes. Please do not spoil anything about any possible routes there.
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The Nioh games are much more Ninja Gaiden than any other souls game. Honestly I find it hard to get into much else in the genre since playing them because they're all so much slower/more stiff in comparison
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Google Jeb Bush posted:I've got a Plan for my second run. It involves a mage start and White Marshes. Please do not spoil anything about any possible routes there. Mage was kinda disappointing for me. You just kinda get minor bonuses in very specific situations. Though the healing was nice.
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Trick Question posted:The Nioh games are much more Ninja Gaiden than any other souls game. Honestly I find it hard to get into much else in the genre since playing them because they're all so much slower/more stiff in comparison Yeah, the combat is so good, it kind of ruined Elden Ring for me. Also between the soul cores in 2 and all the special martial attacks stuff you can unlock, it feels more like you can fight bosses on an even level. Like you can also call upon bullshit attacks that give you super armor at a moment's notice.
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