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Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Capt.Whorebags posted:

You'd probably get away with doing WWII re-enactments dressed as a member of the Afrika Korps because you thought Rommel was a military genius, but I'd recommend staying home for the Waffen SS club nights.

I agree you would probably get away with it but I think it would be ill-advised to dress up in any German (or Italian or Japanese) uniform. Agreed that it is much worse to have the Gestapo dress gear on but the days of running amok as a youth and it not being stored for use later on against you is over.

I have mates that cleaned up their social media of pictures of them smoking. It was not a big deal at all 10 years ago to be a smoker but in another twenty or thirty, it might be a hit in electoral/job chances as being so dumb as to smoke when in uni or whatever.

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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Electric Wrigglies posted:

I agree you would probably get away with it but I think it would be ill-advised to dress up in any German (or Italian or Japanese) uniform. Agreed that it is much worse to have the Gestapo dress gear on but the days of running amok as a youth and it not being stored for use later on against you is over.

I have mates that cleaned up their social media of pictures of them smoking. It was not a big deal at all 10 years ago to be a smoker but in another twenty or thirty, it might be a hit in electoral/job chances as being so dumb as to smoke when in uni or whatever.

Vapes are basically everywhere. It's acceptable. Smoking is only on the way out because of the cost.

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

You don't get brownie points just because you weren't popular enough to get invited to parties when you were young.

This was Perrottet’s own party. There’s no evidence anyone else was there (apart from his mother).

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Laserface posted:

Vapes are basically everywhere. It's acceptable. Smoking is only on the way out because of the cost.

huh, I thought there was a hate on them. Bad example then.

Next one is pure breed pets, something that is likely from a breeder as opposed to an animal rescue bitsa (unless it is a service dog in which case there is a very good reason blind dogs are specifically bred).

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
How's that new government going?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGmTl6c16Ig

This is pretty good.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Electric Wrigglies posted:

huh, I thought there was a hate on them. Bad example then.

Next one is pure breed pets, something that is likely from a breeder as opposed to an animal rescue bitsa (unless it is a service dog in which case there is a very good reason blind dogs are specifically bred).


terrible example. People want specific dogs for different lifestyles and purposes.

Rescues are my preferred way for people to get dogs however they can be a gamble when it comes to their personality and neuroses/ailments. Gotta be careful with kids too.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Electric Wrigglies posted:

huh, I thought there was a hate on them. Bad example then.

Next one is pure breed pets, something that is likely from a breeder as opposed to an animal rescue bitsa (unless it is a service dog in which case there is a very good reason blind dogs are specifically bred).

Continue on this line of thought about how dressing as a Nazi on 2004 is the same as being pictured with a pure bred dog in 2022. Really interested in the thought process here.

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.

ShoeFly posted:

This was Perrottet’s own party. There’s no evidence anyone else was there (apart from his mother).

it's been reported that a bunch of other current lib mps were there (since perrottet was active in the young libs then), most notably alex hawke who i would suspect is probably behind the story getting out to some degree

BlitzkriegOfColour
Aug 22, 2010

Electric Wrigglies posted:

I agree you would probably get away with it but I think it would be ill-advised to dress up in any German (or Italian or Japanese) uniform. Agreed that it is much worse to have the Gestapo dress gear on but the days of running amok as a youth and it not being stored for use later on against you is over.

I have mates that cleaned up their social media of pictures of them smoking. It was not a big deal at all 10 years ago to be a smoker but in another twenty or thirty, it might be a hit in electoral/job chances as being so dumb as to smoke when in uni or whatever.

This is ironic, because...

you know who hated smoking?

Hitler and the actual Gestapo.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
the silver lining is that no matter how bad my post history is when it is leaked, it’s not as bad as that


…right?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

This is ironic, because...

you know who hated smoking?

Hitler and the actual Gestapo.

Looooved meth tho.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay


remember everything I posted as LNP shill Matthew Beet? well you dressed up like a nazi

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Electric Wrigglies posted:

huh, I thought there was a hate on them. Bad example then.

Next one is pure breed pets, something that is likely from a breeder as opposed to an animal rescue bitsa (unless it is a service dog in which case there is a very good reason blind dogs are specifically bred).

Sure, people can judge all they like, but I think the majority would accept the local rescues not having dogs anywhere approaching suitable, whether it's due to size, temperament, exercise needs, having to register it with the council as a "dangerous breed", or needing to clear it with the building strata.

Dunno what it's like in other states, but the shelters in my area generally don't have cavoodles and shitzus, but when they do, they're inundated with enquiries. Instead, they have an abundance of either working dogs or the kind of dogs boofheads get to show they're tough.

Not everyone has a farm or hours to exercise a Kelpie-cross-blue-heeler, nor do many want to be responsible for re-socialising a 40kg bull arab who is afraid of men and other dogs, so I can't fault people for going to a breeder to get a dog that actually will fit into their life.

Hell, my own dog is from a breeder. While I did initially look at shelters, I didn't want a large dog and I don't have the time for a herding dog and that was all that was available.

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

I understand from a convenience, cost and personal taste grounds that people want their preferred choice but there is no question that on the basis of animal welfare, that there is a surplus of bitsa's, that shelters struggle to house problematic animals (either behavior or health issues or not cute enough) and that puppy mills are often problematic in and of themselves. And while it may take time, money and effort to mitigate the issues with the less popular animals, pets are a choice so it is easy to expect that the money, time and effort can be made available.

And to get back to the original point, the younger generation are way more aware of the problems of pet ownership and industrial, made to order provision of pets. That us old gen-x's and millennials and our expectation of a pretty pet puppy with no problems (or it gets replaced) are probably going to be out of date with gen-Z/alpha/people being born now so probably better off not being in the habit of talking about/breeding memes on how you only like pure breed mastiffs/ blue Persian or whatever on social media.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Dressing up as a Nazi wasnt “hip” in 2004 sorry hth

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Yeah you're going to get cancelled for having a dog soon 100%

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
I've nearly always had pet dogs my whole life, but it is a bit weird we keep another thinking being around as a 'companion' who is at the mercy of our decisions.

I think my current pet dog might be the last one I have, at least there will be a discussion about whether to get another one when he's gone.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Urcher
Jun 16, 2006


Cable Guy posted:

Do you generate these yourself or do you source them from somewhere...? You may have answered this question in a previous iteration of the thread, but I'd love to know more. (You can link to a post if you've explained it before)

I wrote some python scripts that scrape the Auspol thread, compare the words from this month to last month, and spit out a list of words and sizes. Then I plug it in to https://www.wordclouds.com/ to make the picture.

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

Urcher posted:

I wrote some python scripts that scrape the Auspol thread, compare the words from this month to last month, and spit out a list of words and sizes. Then I plug it in to https://www.wordclouds.com/ to make the picture.
Oh it's just us then...? I thought it might have been media wide. Nice job though.

Urcher
Jun 16, 2006


Cable Guy posted:

Oh it's just us then...? I thought it might have been media wide. Nice job though.

Thanks.

Auspol is special. It's just us.

ShoeFly
Dec 28, 2006

Waiter, there's a fly in my shoe!

Urcher posted:

Thanks.

Auspol is special. It's just us.

It’s just us.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Whelp. After getting a fever for 2 days, turns out I need an operation immediately or I could die very quickly.

Thank god for Medicare and our health system. I might have been lucky but once at the ER I was seen immediately, triaged, and had the op in 4 hours. Not out of woods yet but it’s going ok so far. The staff are all amazing, patient, professional and caring.


I pity those in the US who would be bankrupted doing this.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Oh geeze, glad you're not immediately dead then.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Comstar posted:

Whelp. After getting a fever for 2 days, turns out I need an operation immediately or I could die very quickly.

Thank god for Medicare and our health system. I might have been lucky but once at the ER I was seen immediately, triaged, and had the op in 4 hours. Not out of woods yet but it’s going ok so far. The staff are all amazing, patient, professional and caring.


I pity those in the US who would be bankrupted doing this.

Genuinely glad you're being looked after Comstar.

Our health system is miles ahead of others but it's still roulette if you rock up to an ED in a regional or rural hospital.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Capt.Whorebags posted:

Our health system is miles ahead of others but it's still roulette if you rock up to an ED in a regional or rural hospital.

True- this is metro Melbourne and from what I read about the Tasmanian and regional ones I’m glad I’m here and not there.


If Murdoch declares war on a LNP premier, how could they survive?

Comstar fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 15, 2023

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

it was his 21st?!

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

is that his o-face

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
I feel like there’s something fairly important separating darth vader from the nazi party but can’t quite put my finger on it

Rescue shelters are 99% bull arabs / staffies/ dobermans and then one or two kelpies and a Great Dane.

Redezga
Dec 14, 2006


And so I wake in the morning and I step outside
And I take deep breath and I get real high
And I scream from the top of my lungs
What's goin' on?

(And I say) HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA

chyaroh
Aug 8, 2007

We knew that Pell didn't like the Pope; it would seem that the feeling was mutual.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jan/17/queensland-and-victoria-resist-push-to-replace-stamp-duty-with-land-taxes

quote:

Queensland and Victoria have no plans to replace stamp duty with a New South Wales-style annual tax, despite experts saying a change in policy would help more young people buy their own homes sooner.

From this week, first home buyers in NSW can choose between paying stamp duty or an annual land tax on properties up to $1.5m.

Under the initiative, first home owners will instead pay an annual fee of $400 plus 0.3% of the property’s land value.

They will also continue to be eligible for a stamp duty exemption on existing properties valued up to $650,000 under the state’s first home buyer assistance scheme.

But the state’s Labor opposition has vowed to scrap the scheme if elected in March, replacing it with a policy to abolish stamp duty on homes worth up to $800,000 and provide a reduced rate on homes of up to $1m.

Some experts say the NSW government’s program is a step in the right direction and have urged other Australian jurisdictions to consider a similar approach, dubbing stamp duty a “terrible” and “inefficient” tax.

But Queensland and Victorian governments have held firm, saying they are not considering either of the schemes.

“The Queensland government has no plans to adopt either of these initiatives,” a spokesperson for the state’s treasurer, Cameron Dick, said.

A Victorian government spokesperson said it currently offers “a range of initiatives” to help people “get into their own home sooner”.

This includes no stamp duty for first home buyers on properties worth $600,000 or less, with a reduced rate charged for properties worth up to $750,000. It also offers grants of $10,000 in Melbourne and $20,000 in regional Victoria for new builds and runs a shared-equity scheme that reduces the required deposit for homebuyers to 5%.

Prof John Quiggin, an economist at the University of Queensland, said stamp duty is a “terrible tax that is already riddled with exemptions and concessions”.

He said NSW’s program makes the housing market play more smoothly “in the sense that you don’t have this huge cost when you’re trying to move house”.

Quiggin said the issue should not be “a political hot potato” and a broader approach regarding stamp duty needs to be mapped out on a national level.

He said this would avoid political reluctance from states like Queensland, which was stung by its failed attempts to increase land tax for interstate landlords.

“Undoubtedly the Queensland government has been badly burned by the previous land tax episode when they tried to close the multistate loophole and got no support from NSW or Victoria,” Quiggin said.

“If you look at the political attack [the NSW opposition leader] Chris Minns is waging, it’s not party political. Any change like this can be made scary.”

The managing director of the Australian Housing and Urban Research Institute, Dr Michael Fotheringham, said stamp duty can hinder people from entering the property market.

“[Stamp duty] adds to the cost of entry and what ends up happening is people’s borrowing rises to meet that cost,” Dr Fotheringham said.

The Victorian opposition and the Greens are also calling for stamp duty reform.

“With the housing affordability crisis getting worse, the Greens want to see a proper debate in Victoria about how we can replace stamp duty with land tax to make housing more affordable,” the Greens leader, Samantha Ratnam, said.

“The ACT and NSW are already making the shift to land tax, which is much fairer.”

However, the housing spokesperson for the Greens in Queensland, Amy MacMahon, said the policies of the major parties in NSW “are just tinkering at the edges”.

“Instead of what looks to be an ineffective first home buyer incentive, our communities need bold measures that prioritise housing Queenslanders, not the profits of property investors,” MacMahon said.

The Victorian Liberals’ home ownership and housing affordability spokesperson, Jess Wilson, said she was pleased to see other states “explore reforms aimed at giving people greater opportunity to buy their own homes” and urged Victorian to follow suit.

“All options are on the table to reverse the decline in home ownership and ensure young Victorians have the same opportunities and benefits that previous generations have enjoyed,” Wilson said.

Clicking through and checking the opposition's policy, it still only applies to first homebuyers:

quote:

New South Wales Labor has pledged to eliminate stamp duty for first home buyers purchasing properties worth up to $800,000 if it wins the March state election, in a bid to counter the Perrottet government’s tax changes.

Labor’s proposal, announced on Monday, would also apply a concession rate to homebuyers paying between $800,000 and $1m for their first property.

The party saying the changes would result in 95% of all first home buyers in the state paying no tax or a reduced rate on their home.

I'm in favour of this in general as a better-than-nothing approach, but it shits me that we view it all through the prism of first homebuyers, of some 1950s notion of newlyweds moving into their forever house in the suburbs at age 25. Go ahead and tax the hell out of landlords, but most people are going to be moving around multiple times in their life, and owner-occupiers should not be obliged to find a spare $30,000+ to give the state government every time just for the privilege of doing so.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

freebooter posted:

I'm in favour of this in general as a better-than-nothing approach, but it shits me that we view it all through the prism of first homebuyers, of some 1950s notion of newlyweds moving into their forever house in the suburbs at age 25. Go ahead and tax the hell out of landlords, but most people are going to be moving around multiple times in their life, and owner-occupiers should not be obliged to find a spare $30,000+ to give the state government every time just for the privilege of doing so.

Targeting incentives at first home buyers isn't about subscribing to a John Howard 1950s view of newlyweds spending their first night together in a new home. It's a recognition that the first step on the property ladder is incredibly hard. Saving a deposit whilst paying rent and watching prices climb faster than your saving capacity, only to be slugged with a stamp duty, puts it years further out of reach. Once you have that first home, even with a crazy mortgage, you have equity building up and it is so much easier to then use that equity to buy a bigger home if/when you need it.

Although this assumes growing home values, which is no longer assured, at least for the time being.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Just a quick reminder that one of the promised quid pro quos for the introduction of the GST was the abolishion of State Stamp Duty. Lol.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
Jim Molan is dead.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

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The Lord Bude posted:

Jim Molan is dead.

Was he a piece of poo poo?

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.
a war criminal for one

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The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Non Compos Mentis posted:

Was he a piece of poo poo?

He was a liberal senator and a major general in the army.

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