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Acebuckeye13 posted:
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meefistopheles posted:Yeah i'm sorry they beat hitler too I don't think Nicholas II, Kerensky, or Lenin all being stubborn and welcoming war over compromise, resulting in a series of conflicts that broke apart the Empire and killed over 10 million people, was exactly necessary to beat Hitler.
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Kerensky's presented as maybe only second to Nicholas II as far as pissing away power due to being a dumbass (unless you want to toss Trotsky in there for his passivity and stubbornness during the Politburo power struggles), but even if he was operating on bad information, I think he was probably right that trusting the army was going to see him deposed and possibly killed. Thinking he could basically install himself as the new tsar with no actual support base was pretty dumb, but escaping was a pretty slick move, and he wasn't even bitter enough to support the Whites during the civil war. He did a lot better in the long run than almost anyone from the revolution, living abroad until 1970. I think Molotov's maybe the only old Bolshevik who outlived him? Obviously most didn't die peacefully in their beds, so most of the winners of the revolution ultimately fared a lot worse than one of its biggest losers.
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Mantis42 posted:The Russian series was disappointing because Duncan seemed to becoming more radical as the show went along but then at the last minute fell into the Parenti trap of pure socialism and how awful it was that Lenin was authoritarian. I guess if he let the USSR end up like Haiti he would have been noble, instead he built a superpower so he's a villain. lmao you're dumb as hell
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can we not do any of this in the podcast thread
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This thread welcomes a diverse range of historical interpretation. There's even some people who've posted here that think Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone assassin of JFK.
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adebisi lives posted:This thread welcomes a diverse range of historical interpretation. There's even some people who've posted here that think Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone assassin of JFK. There were 0 assassins. His head just did that.
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Arrhythmia posted:There were 0 assassins. His head just did that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYXhnNXdoPE
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Arrhythmia posted:There were 0 assassins. His head just did that. The -1 assassin theory is always an interesting, that it was the lack of an assassin when there was supposed to be one being there that provoked a spontaneous head explosion, which in turn lead people to believe there was at least one assassin, bringing the universe back into it's >=0 equilibrium since you can't have <0 entities in this current reality configuration.
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Jan 9, 2023 18:49
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JFK was a hologram created by Kraft Foods to sell more groceries
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Jack B Nimble posted:Is it by the guy that used to do "our fake history"? It sort of sounds like him and I'm not really sure how this was in my feed to begin with. It's not Sebastian, and there is no "used to" for OFH. New episode just came out a few weeks ago. You had me scared haha
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whydirt posted:JFK was a hologram created by Kraft Foods to sell more groceries Produuuuuuucts!
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Arrhythmia posted:There were 0 assassins. His head just did that. There was one assassin, and it was jfk He hated his life so much he made his own head explode
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Sydin posted:His whole "the reds and the whites were equally bad actually" thing loving sucked yeah. I didn't really get that from the later episodes on the Russian revolution. It's more that he spends more time talking about the details of the Reds terrible poo poo. Whereas the whites crimes are usually covered in a minute with a "the fact that almost every peasant decided that the Reds were still the lesser evil by far despite all that should be all you need to know about what the whites are doing" or "the whites were doing twice as many warcrimes as the reds, but they were the same kind of warcrime as the reds so I'm not going to repeat the details again." And so the crimes of the whites only get a quarter of the talking time despite him saying the whites are always doing more warcrimes almost every time.
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https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1614907335394091008?s=20 I'm a craven for content so I'll still listen to it. edit: drat, 5 hours, 14 minutes run time Digital Jedi fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jan 16, 2023 |
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Please report back with timestamps of every boxing analogy
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And justifications for concentration camps.
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Placing bets on how long before the first alien landing thought experiment
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COPE 27 posted:Please report back with timestamps of every boxing analogy I think I just go out to the first one @ 3hr 25m Edit: 2nd boxing mention 3hr 41m Digital Jedi fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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Digital Jedi posted:I think I just go out to the first one @ 3hr 25m First one is 1:12:24.
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webmeister posted:Placing bets on how long before the first alien landing thought experiment The first book was published in 1994
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(guy who has made talking about history a part of his living voice) "I'm not even going to try to pronounce this"
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Dan being utterly lost with any language outside of modern North American English and unaware of that foreign historians are quite helpful with their mother language is one of the most frustrating parts of DCHH.
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I'm still salty about his last common sense podcast. After going basically radio silent the entire Trump presidency, he finally releases one. Now that Trump was out of his office he launched into his usual 'both siding' shtick like the past 4 years, January 6th etc, never happened. Literally within the first 5 minutes. He then repeatedly mentions the common myth of Afghanistan being always called 'The Graveyard of Empires'. Took perfectly seriously the whole Afghan Army being 300k strong when the whole Ghost Soldier problem had been widely reported on at that point. Finally he then goes on to complain that Afganistan should have been handled 'better' without even the shadow of a suggestion what his genius master plan to square the circle would actually be. If he's that bad at current events, I don't remotely trust his History takes. Edit: I stand corrected. Since then he's done one podcast on Ukraine/Russia released just after the start of the conflict and no, just no, I'm can't bring myself to even hate-listen that one. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Deptfordx posted:
Hope you like extremely fawning takes on MacArthur and the Marines.
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"Calling Dad after he read a book about WWII; the podcast." There's way too many good history podcasts to spend 5 hours listening to Carlin. Maybe 15 years ago when he started he had something to contribute, but he doesn't seem to anymore.
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Remember when he had an extended rant about the silver lining of the holocaust?
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Was it that it would never happen again?
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(Because America did 2 holocausts and aided in a third within the next 20 years)
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twerking on the railroad posted:Hope you like extremely fawning takes on MacArthur and the Marines. After just finishing off the Blowback season on the Korean War, fuuuuuuuuuck MacArthur
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dan carlin's supernova in the east was truly baffling and awful and the 15 minute "maybe the Nazis were right" segue at the end very Weird but he had a pretty low opinion of MacArthur based on his description of him as a celebrity with a self-cultivated image
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COPE 27 posted:Was it that it would never happen again? If there's one thing I take from history it's that humanity collectively learns from it's mistakes
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Mantis42 posted:If there's one thing I take from history it's that humanity collectively learns from it's mistakes Because if you kind of think about it, folks, if you kind of think about it... history is sort of like, you've got a champion boxer in one corner of the ring, and if you can imagine it for a second, there's Darth Vader over on the other side... and oh boy, he's really angry. Now if you can put yourself in the shoes of the boxer, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, you think "hey this is crazy, what kind of chance do I have to take on Darth Vader?" How could you make that mistake? And if you could, do you really think you would LEARN from that mistake... or do you think that the next time you see Darth Vader, maybe you step out of the way and let him go by? Anyway, Henry Kissinger goes to the meeting with Nixon...
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Enjoying The Ancients lately and they cover a broad range of topics but the stuff about alexander the great is really engaging because you can tell its the hosts personal area of interest and im onto the persia conquest stuff and i wish i was mature enough to beable to stop thinking 'Bophanes nuts'
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Cockblocktopus posted:Because if you kind of think about it, folks, if you kind of think about it... history is sort of like, you've got a champion boxer in one corner of the ring, and if you can imagine it for a second, there's Darth Vader over on the other side... and oh boy, he's really angry. Now if you can put yourself in the shoes of the boxer, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, you think "hey this is crazy, what kind of chance do I have to take on Darth Vader?" How could you make that mistake? And if you could, do you really think you would LEARN from that mistake... or do you think that the next time you see Darth Vader, maybe you step out of the way and let him go by?  + Go on Carlin, ask me one more question 
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Anyone else listening to Empire and finding it's going waaay downhill? Now that they're out of India the show seems to be turning into the Anita and William Drive Time Radio Hour.
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PittTheElder posted:Anyone else listening to Empire and finding it's going waaay downhill? Now that they're out of India the show seems to be turning into the Anita and William Drive Time Radio Hour. It's different now I'll grant you that. But a major reason for it is the subject difference - modern stories about a self-reinventing India/Pakistan or the eyewitness accounts of life under an empire that doesn't empathise with you, or view your group as an integral constiuent part of it, is very different thing from the current retelling about an imperial center far removed from it's eventual demise. The first series spent a lot less time on that than this Turkish one has, so atleast I think the tonal difference isn't on Anand and Dalrymple as much as it is for this facett of the Turks. For what its worth. (Grand histories can be hosed boring and myopic and I don't mind Anita and William frazzing out rn. Random or individuals stuff, shits relatable innit) I loved the quick Roma & Musical talk. tl/dr India was a deeper more complex interesting thing alltogether vs. old ottoman "big history"
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On the most recent episode The History of English plugged the "Anglo-Saxon England" podcast. I decided to check it out on the strength of that recommendation. Verdict: dry as bones, which I love, but terrible sound quality so far. It gets into the weeds of source studies and historiography. I'm on episode 3 rn and the discussion is presently in the challenges of using Gildas as a source.
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Digital Jedi posted:https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1614907335394091008?s=20 I know Carlin is mostly despised, here, but he spins a good yarn and I find his dumb boomer analogies endearing. Do we need more Viking poo poo, though? Is anyone asking for it?
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