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If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers?
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? They're expected to do exactly what non-homeowners did during the gilded age, pay 105% of their income for rent and pass their debt on to their kids.
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Jan 13, 2023 19:23
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? i hope you like roommates
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Jan 13, 2023 19:33
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? no one has thought beyond more money for me now we will find out what happens in ten years when critical mass has been reached and not a single second beforehand
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Jan 13, 2023 19:35
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? Housing tips for 2023  No more Starbucks lattes and avocado toast! Move in with your parents Hustle! Try working a second job in the evenings or on weekends to make ends meet! Roommates Try being born into wealth! Put off having children
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Jan 13, 2023 19:39
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? Nice and hot piss posted:Just live in a dumpster like oscar the grouch jeez you're all making this too drat complicated.
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Jan 13, 2023 22:47
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Red Baron posted:we will find out what happens in ten years when critical mass has been reached and not a single second beforehand it's true 
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Jan 13, 2023 22:49
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? theyre expected to eat it and continue working poo poo jobs. they are often instead relocating to cheaper area or regions within thier area.
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Jan 13, 2023 23:36
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we are already finding out. try getting good childcare. basic necessary functions of society are quite thread bare already.
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Jan 13, 2023 23:37
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https://twitter.com/utilitylimb/status/181116301698273281?lang=en
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Jan 13, 2023 23:38
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19 o'clock posted:it's true sorry bud
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Jan 13, 2023 23:49
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Housing tips for 2023 The fact that some of these are being encouraged by media networks is the sort of manufactured consent we need to avoid the wealthy holding any bag. Bar Ran Dun posted:try getting good childcare. basic necessary functions of society are quite thread bare already. Illinois is suggesting they might implement free pre-k, and possibly free post-secondary for some. It would be nice. I want the same nice things for everyone, but there will be a Great Lakes Khanate born from the ashes of the ecological overshoot before the ghouls let that happen.
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Jan 14, 2023 00:04
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Red Baron posted:sorry bud it's fine tbh, just would be cool to be able to buy a home is all.
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Jan 14, 2023 00:14
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it's time we started scamming all the elderly out of their homes
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Jan 14, 2023 00:15
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Minecraft Holmes posted:it's time we started scamming all the elderly out of their homes That game has already been played by Capital with reverse mortgages, HELOCs, and the best one yet: purchasing their home and renting it back to them "care-free," in rent-backs. The last one is really monstrous and a favorite among private equity partners.
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Jan 14, 2023 00:22
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Minecraft Holmes posted:it's time we started scamming all the elderly out of their homes i propose mortal kombat
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Jan 14, 2023 01:15
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19 o'clock posted:it's fine tbh, just would be cool to be able to buy a home is all. If it is any consolation, your lifetime of service will make the rich slightly richer. Maybe your remains will power someone's car, too. Who knows?
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Jan 14, 2023 01:56
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guillotines
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gay for gacha posted:If housing never becomes affordable are non-homeowners supposed to either deal with rising rent or move to some poo poo box small town away from job centers? in the resort towns around here were already seeing companies beginning to build out employee dorms. theres talk of expanding that model to other sectors.
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Jan 14, 2023 09:58
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Joementum posted:in the resort towns around here were already seeing companies beginning to build out employee dorms. theres talk of expanding that model to other sectors. hmmm.company towns have historically been good, right?
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Jan 14, 2023 12:35
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the liberal boomer ghouls in my former employer have accepted that maybe it's a bad thing that the purveyors, craftsmen, artisans, creators, and other wealthy entrepreneurs whose businesses provide the luxury services they expect from life are having trouble finding workers. They've reached a limit for how far they're willing to commute for the trash wages that retail, luxury food production, and hospitality workers must be paid to keep in their place. Are they willing to allow people to build homes there in their city? No way! They used politics to force companies to build dorms, and the hotels, restaurants, etc, plan to recruit hotel management degree students from the global south so the visa and shelter are tied to obedience at work and observation at home.
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Jan 14, 2023 15:32
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Ornery and Hornery posted:guillotines I mean, yeah, that eventually happens when existence becomes too painful for the masses. Fortunately, Im already in my forties, so hopefully Ill be dead in my employers boneyard before that happens.
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Jan 14, 2023 16:41
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19 o'clock posted:hmmm….company towns have historically been good, right? They're building them out of necessity, and it's not without precedence. Even ski resorts in places like Salida are having a hard time getting employees, because the whole town has practically been turned into a resort for short term rentals, or the middlingly wealthy that can't afford Aspen. Ski resorts have often put staff up on their own properties in the past due to the seasonal nature of the sport. They got away from it in most places, shunting those employees onto the local market. Now the local market is at least double what it was a decade ago with no real increase in wage. What's old is new again.
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Jan 14, 2023 20:01
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:What's old is new again. can't wait for them to streamline the process even more with
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Jan 14, 2023 21:30
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Bar Ran Dun posted:theyre expected to eat it and continue working poo poo jobs. Yeah, the issue is that these areas are becoming harder to find, and moving to them often means accepting lower pay or longer commutes. I constantly post some variation of "if you literally cannot afford a house right now, things are not going to get better for you" and I feel like an rear end for doing it, but it's true. There hasn't really been a point at any time in recent history where housing conditions have improved so that marginal or excluded buyers can suddenly get into the market. Your income or savings need to outpace the market and rates or it's just not going to happen. Housing isn't going to come down to meet you unless you're willing to make increasingly drastic sacrifices in terms of where you live.
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Jan 14, 2023 21:35
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19 o'clock posted:can't wait for them to streamline the process even more with you can choose TWO food items from the bottom shelf
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Jan 14, 2023 21:40
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Paradoxish posted:Yeah, the issue is that these areas are becoming harder to find, and moving to them often means accepting lower pay or longer commutes. I think its possible that the secondary markets falls back down relative to the desirable locations within a context of the whole still rising from the SFH supply constraints. theres a lot of demand push from cities to burbs and secondary cities right now particularly on the west coast to the point of affordability being near parity with the urban center for far out burbs. a big part of that is/was covid.
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Jan 14, 2023 22:47
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Bar Ran Dun posted:a big part of that is/was fixed for you
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The Oldest Man posted:fixed for you its was more schools and school policy than that atleast out here. so so many couples with early elementary kids.
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Jan 14, 2023 23:58
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19 o'clock posted:hmmm.company towns have historically been good, right? The Pullman neighborhood of Chicago just became a National Monument. There might be something behind that.
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Jan 15, 2023 00:29
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union made towns are better brotherhood of locomotive engineers laid out a bunch of mid sized towns
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I just checked, and dang, housing is still unaffordable!
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hmmmmmm seems like a good afordable starter place $360,000 1 bd 1 ba 520 sqft
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A Bakers Cousin posted:hmmmmmm seems like a good afordable starter place This is theoretically affordable for two people with slightly above-average paying jobs. Looks great as long as you aren't single, never intend to have kids, and don't want to use your home as a place for anything except sleeping! You might even be able to get away with paying less than half of your net income for the privilege.
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Jan 16, 2023 20:21
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lol im staring at that microwave and trying to figure out why its bothering me and its counter space
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Jan 16, 2023 20:23
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A Bakers Cousin posted:lol im staring at that microwave and trying to figure out why its bothering me and its counter space It looks like a huge microwave
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You'd think with the fairly minimal space there they'd have an over the range microwave that doubles as the ventilation. What boggles my mind about pictures like these is if you're already dropping 360 on the house why didn't whoever built it/remodeled it put in some nice appliances? It's a drop in the bucket compared to everything else might as well go up a couple tiers.
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Jan 16, 2023 21:45
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So there doesnt appear to be ....any counter space?
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Jan 16, 2023 21:49
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this forum taught me that cooking at home is both classist and ableist so I support this kitchen configuration
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There's 3 counters, one between the fridge and the oven, one where the microwave goes after you throw it away, and then one on the other side of the sink.
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