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The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Spergin Morlock posted:

did she look like a 6 year old Dakota fanning?

Not at all. I'm probably missing a sarcastic reference but oh well.

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Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Inspector Hound posted:

I'm usually looking for something. I'm in some kind of enormous multi level city/mall/neighborhood. Sometimes there's cars?

You jogged my memory, one of my favorite dreams I've had was wandering out of a dangerous wilderness (nothing happened but the vibes were bad, bad) and into a gigantic, seemingly abandoned future/scifi city - cyclopean scale, like something off a classic 70s sci-fi cover, lots of winding multi-tiered roads and immense buildings. I was with a small group and we just wandered, and unfortunately the dream ended.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

The Demilich posted:

Not at all. I'm probably missing a sarcastic reference but oh well.

heres a sarcastic reference just to make sure

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

The Demilich posted:

Not at all. I'm probably missing a sarcastic reference but oh well.

I've been rewatching Taken over the last couple weeks

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Azathoth posted:

Crop circles are one of those things like the Patterson Gimlin film, I'm pretty sure it's bullshit but I definitely don't buy the "a couple guys loving around" explanation. Like, I don't even mean it's UFOs or aliens, but there's some of them that are more on the order of taking like an art collective to plan and execute it for no reason and no credit, which is likely the explanation but it's also a lot of people to never blab while drunk in a bar.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if the following explains 100% of cases


I remember watching an investigation magazine episode in the late 2000's and they pretty much identified a/the guy who was responsible for creating the crop circles appearing in my region of Belgium.

The guy was calling himself "cereal killer" online and was a student in mathematics or something similar (definitely a geometry enthusiast) and showed how he was part of an underground online community of crop circles makers who shared their creations and were basically engaged in a competition for increasingly complex designs.

He explained that once he prepared a new design all he needed was a GPS, a rope attached to a stake to use as compass, and a large plank with a rope to flatten the field.

He also demonstrated that it was not super complex by creating a moderately intricate and large crop circle in a few hours in the middle of the night in front of cameras with a few friends.


He viewed his work as art and was happy when they made the news and attracted visitors. I don't remember what he said about damaging the farmer property but the point was raised. It's possible the farmer was in on it and that he also enjoyed his field becoming an attraction. Can't remember properly.

Here is a link to a summary of the episode
https://www.dhnet.be/medias/television/2007/10/24/le-mystere-des-crop-circles-perce-45PSPOZ525D5JEBJOPYWN72SUA/

I tried to track down the archive but it's too old.

Instead here's a more recent video from France where a bunch of skeptics demonstrate how to make one (with the farmer's agreeement), and how later it attracts all kinds of people including some claiming they can feel the energy of the location, that it's not human made and other woo stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZ0DKfb-cc



That same magazine also had an episode in 2011 related to the thread where they debunked one of the most famous UFO picture ; the Triangle from Petit Rechain.



This was taken during a very famous UFO wave that took place at my place when I was 9. For weeks/months hundreds of people saw black triangles and other shapes. Police officers included. The army was very involved and it led to the creation of the SOBEPS to gather the huge amount of sightings and analyze them.

The magazine investigators, again, were able to track down the original creator and it turns out that after more than 15 years of his picture making the rounds in ufology circles he wanted to confess he forged it. He showed the model he used, a styrofoam board with a bunch of lights and a battery.

But he also said he had nothing to do with the actual wave of sightings at the time and that it was the mass sightings that actually inspired him to take the pic (probably to become famous). So only that picture was debunked, the UFO wave was pretty real (we even had a few F-16 chasing birds and the corresponding radar readings of said bird, with the usual impossible movements). It's funny because I remember that at the moment of the wave, very serious scientist started studying the picture, and one of them, a physics professor, was explaining how the lights appeared to show a MHD propulsion system.


e: I remember that during the whole wave I was watching the news everyday to hear about new testimonies and that I spent nights watching the sky hoping to see a bird too. Pretty upset I saw none during one of the biggest and most famous UFO wave as it was happening right above my head. I only remember about an extremely vivid dream where I was walking at night and a massive oval shaped UFO, carrier size, was slowly floating above my head. Everything was silent and it felt like there was an intense feeling of heaviness, like the gravity was stronger and the pressure too. That feeling increased until I felt on my knees, then suddenly the bird zapped away in an instant, no sound. That was one of the most vivid dreams I ever had, but unfortunately only a dream.

SpaceGoatFarts has issued a correction as of 11:25 on Jan 17, 2023

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

poisonpill posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_voxN1mKJg

Didn't know anything about this dude, but he makes some outrageous claims without support: "There are up to 50 species of aliens, all humanoid, looking at hybridization programs for their own agenda. Disclosure is a slow process, deliberately, because full disclosure would make everyone lose their minds. Communications w/ military/IC began in 1943, but have been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Intact crash retrieval from some kind of deliberately crashed craft in Aztec, NM 1948; but he suspects more have shot down. Says there are alien bases across the world, including under the ocean." Lots and lots of unsupported statements. Do his books have supporting evidence?
Timothy Good

coast to coast website posted:

Timothy Good has conducted worldwide research on the UFO phenomenon including interviewing key witnesses and discussing the subject with astronauts, military and intelligence specialists, pilots, politicians and scientists. He has lectured at universities, schools, and at many organizations and has even been invited for discussions at the Pentagon in 1998, and at the headquarters of the French Air Force in 2002. He has acted as consultant for several U.S. Congressional investigations.

Born in London, Timothy Good gained a scholarship as a violinist to the Royal Academy of Music, where he won prizes for solo, chamber and orchestral playing. He played for fourteen years with the London Symphony Orchestra. He has also freelanced as a session player for television dramas, commercials, feature films, and recordings with pop musicians. Among those he has recorded for are Phil Collins, George Harrison, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Rod Stewart, and U2.
2005-02-19 - Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Timothy Good - UFOs and Coverups - Chris Moneymaker - Poker Champion
https://www.owltail.com/people/0BISN-timothy-good/appearances

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

the trick to getting a good chance at a fun dream even if you're a weed addict is if you, right before you fall into a doped slumber, swallow down a few high dose melatonins and a delayed action stimulant like some time-release Vyvanse you found. ideally you'll fall asleep or pass out and then the stimulant should kick in an hour or so later and fling you into a semi-lucid pliable dream state and also the melatonin should kick in around then and really lengthen and distort time and make everything in your dream sharp and real, after that it's up to you but a heads up it's really difficult to wake up and not just wake up in another dream, and control over anything in the dream is spotty at best so don't fly too highh and don't think about certain things too much

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost
While I'm posting about old documentaries, here's an all time favorite about a guy in '93 living with his mother in a small countryside village and who's building his own flying saucer powered by thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJ1HL4eMLQ

It's in French but it's absolutely worth a watch if you understand it (and partly watchable with auto translation). It's really touching and the guy seems actually quite smart, just way too deep in the "alternate science" rabbit hole. Unfortunately it looks like he turned out to be a child diddler and went to jail and his saucer was removed by the village after attracting too many onlookers.

SpaceGoatFarts has issued a correction as of 12:02 on Jan 17, 2023

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

The magazine investigators, again, were able to track down the original creator and it turns out that after more than 15 years of his picture making the rounds in ufology circles he wanted to confess he forged it. He showed the model he used, a styrofoam board with a bunch of lights and a battery.

A bit pedantic but iirc he showed a recreation of the model he used to make the photo because the original was long lost. Some use that to say he's clearly lying about faking it :shrug:

poisonpill posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_voxN1mKJg

Didn't know anything about this dude, but he makes some outrageous claims without support: "There are up to 50 species of aliens, all humanoid, looking at hybridization programs for their own agenda. Disclosure is a slow process, deliberately, because full disclosure would make everyone lose their minds. Communications w/ military/IC began in 1943, but have been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Intact crash retrieval from some kind of deliberately crashed craft in Aztec, NM 1948; but he suspects more have shot down. Says there are alien bases across the world, including under the ocean." Lots and lots of unsupported statements. Do his books have supporting evidence?

Yeah he's nuts and a great intro to really being a UFO guy/gal/person. Some of his books are decent because they're more just surveys of UFO events and less insane galactic federation rambling.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Please don't fake UFO photos thanks

Objurium
Aug 8, 2009

iirc one of the weirder things about crop circles is the fact that the more "legit" ones ensure that the stems of the grass or crop are never broken, rather just gently pushed over. I believe they've usually got fucko magnetic signature stuff going on within the circles also.

Not proof of anything in and of itself but perhaps a little less likely that they're manmade over a night or whatever. The Astonishing Legends series on them is pretty good.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


When I was a kid, my parents would go to the UK a lot and we'd visit crop circles. I don't really have a ton to add to the discussion except you meet some awesome British hippies when you do, and it's a fun experience even if it's bullshit.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

on the nature of existence:

Nichael posted:

it's a fun experience even if it's bullshit.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://thedebrief.org/energy-teleportation-and-negative-energy-observed-in-quantum-research-breakthrough/#sq_ha73avv5v8

ENERGY TELEPORTATION AND NEGATIVE ENERGY OBSERVED IN QUANTUM RESEARCH BREAKTHROUGH

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

I read this wrong and was like hasn't this been done and then I read it right and holy poo poo

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003


Wild if we flip on our first quantum walkie talkie and start picking up the CB traffic of the galaxy

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


gently caress yeah???

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

https://twitter.com/INCREDHISTORY/status/1615148425560858627?s=20

Some animal stuff, I remember Vallee mentioning this in Dimensions

Regarding the "glowing circle" some of the soil was analyzed and had a poo poo ton of some sort of fungus in e: found it

quote:

I eventually obtained a sample of the white substance from Mr. Phillips and forwarded it to a biological laboratory in France, where it was examined under a microscope with magnifications ranging from a few diameters to the maximum enlargement possible under the oil immersion technique. The white substance was resolved into fibers (thus destroying the "explanation" of the case put forth by Philip Klass in his book UFOs Explained, where he claimed the substance was produced by the urine of sheep feeding from a circular device). The fibers were vegetal in nature and belonged to an organism of the order of the Actinomycetales, which is an intermediate organism between bacteria and fungus. (The French biologist who identified it, and who has wished not to be named in this book, determined that the organism belongs to the family of the actinomycete and the genus Nocardia.) It is often found together with a fungus of the order of the Bacidiomycepes, which may fluoresce under certain conditions.
This fungus can cause a circular pattern to be visible on the surface of the ground.

sharknado slashfic has issued a correction as of 18:49 on Jan 17, 2023

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.02666.pdf posted:

Bob’s conditional operations to receive energy. He selects an operation U1(+1) or U1(−1) based on µ = +1 or −1, corresponding
to the Maxwell demon operation.

no bob you are the demons

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

imagine going about your business as set crew when david lynch points at you and shouts "YOU! YOURE THE PERFECT DEMON."

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


so uhh

negative energy is the stuff required for a ship-portable alcubierre drive right?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

quote:

III. IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR REAL WORLD

Our results provide implications for new quantum communication technologies with respect to different phases in the short, medium and long term. It is important to note that, like quantum teleportation, energy can also be teleported only by LOCC. Reproducing the minimal QET model we used in our demonstration in a laboratory system is something that can be tackled in the short term with current quantum computing and communication technology. A quantum device with 2 qubits and a gate depth of 6 would be ready for immediate experiments. This is expected to lead to new developments in the use of quantum memory [18–20]. Furthermore, verifying QET in a variety of quantum systems and materials beyond the minimal model is an important challenge for future applications.

Quantum energy teleportation without limit of distance is also provided [21]. The ability to transfer quantum energy over long distances will bring about a new revolution in quantum communication technology. In other words, a world in which physical quantities are freely and instantaneously transmitted to remote locations connected by a large-scale Quantum Internet (Network) can be realized in the near future. For example there is a long-distance (∼158km) SBU/BNL quantum network in Long Island, New York [22]. Various quantum networks have been developed [23–25]. Realizing QET on a quantum network, which is expected to be in practical use around the 2030s, would be a milestone toward realizing QET on a worldwide quantum network. The realization of a long-range QET will have important implications beyond the development of information and communication technology and quantum physics. Information and energy are physical, but also economic. Allowing physical quantities to be traded concretely on the quantum network means that a new economic market will be born [26]. Quantum teleportation is an established technology and is being developed for practical use. In addition to this, if QET is put to practical use, it will mean that various quantum resources will be at the disposal of us. The expected value of the Hermite operator is called energy, but it need not literally be used only as energy. Teleported energy can be used as energy, as well as for other uses. The ability to teleport a concrete physical quantity, energy, means that quantum information will have added value. In a quantum market where Alice, Bob, and Charlie exist, if Bob can get more energy from Charlie than from Alice, Bob may prefer to do business with Charlie rather than Alice, and he may prefer an entangle state with Charlie. However, depending on transaction costs, Bob may choose Alice. A lot of such game-theoretic situations can be created [27–31]. This implies that quantum information economics (which does not yet exist) will become a meaningful idea in the future.

Oh god

they're going to pull it off. they're going to figure out a way to just spool out Capital Innovation™ as long as they need to

there's been that proposal to build energy harvesting satellites that use solar wind to produce insane ultra megawatts of power, and iirc it's basically a copper rod a few km long and pointed at the sun, it could be deployed with tech we have, but there was no effective way to beam that energy back to any usable location.

They're gonna figure out a way to unlock some huge amount of energy and then whoever owns it is a quadrillionaire and the rest of us still have to eat poo poo

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Oh god

they're going to pull it off. they're going to figure out a way to just spool out Capital Innovation™ as long as they need to

there's been that proposal to build energy harvesting satellites that use solar wind to produce insane ultra megawatts of power, and iirc it's basically a copper rod a few km long and pointed at the sun, it could be deployed with tech we have, but there was no effective way to beam that energy back to any usable location.

They're gonna figure out a way to unlock some huge amount of energy and then whoever owns it is a quadrillionaire and the rest of us still have to eat poo poo

I was just going to post something like this, that the paper ended with it driving home how we can do a new form of gambling.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

How do we front-run stock purchases better than the people who already moved their trading desks to buildings right next to the exchanges?

That is it. That is the question asked and answered.

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009
praying to whatever i can think of that musk crashes and burns before he can position himself as some sort of founder for that

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Guillotines don't operate themselves people.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The death stranding future except capitalism survives somehow

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

lollin' over here that quantum teleportation's only "Implication for Our Real World" is a new way to do price arbitrage

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

"We've discovered a way to instantly share nearly infinite, nearly free energy"

Oh great so you're gonna share that equitably right?


You're gonna share the free energy equitably right?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Bezos selling Amazon Quantum subscriptions so you can download enough power to cook your Amazon Basics Instant Ramen (24 Pack), and drive your Amazon Mini EV (a bicycle with the pedals swapped out for a motor and battery), so you can deliver enough packages to make back the cost of splurging on the 24 instead of your usual 12

Remember the subprime mortgages? Brace for incredible new quantum financial instruments based on absolutely impenetrable incomprehensible future energy derivatives

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


We're not just the Ferengi, we're the Ferengi in one of the lovely episodes where like Quark becomes a woman or something.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


*points up to the plutonic archetype* it's time for death and renewal. :ussr:

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

fanfic insert posted:

praying to whatever i can think of that musk crashes and burns before he can position himself as some sort of founder for that

countdown to Elon announcing that Tesla is taking preorders for a quantum communication trading application for the Tesla

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Remember the subprime mortgages? Brace for incredible new quantum financial instruments based on absolutely impenetrable incomprehensible future energy derivatives

We have energy shortages now but you know where there aren't energy shortages? The future.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


quantum tech is loving useless unless i can use it to create a novel and highly destructive financial instrument

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

snapping the universe in half because my quantum CDOs crashed and now atoms don't stay together anymore

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

thankfully I've already invented the time machine that allows me to go back in time and buy puts so my risk is hedged

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
someone who understands this poo poo figure out if you can in practice swap out whatever substation facility for an energy teleporter or not. Is it actually possible to slap one of these bad boys on a dyson-harrop and have it phone the energy to wherever it's needed without dicking around with aiming big energy emitters and receivers?

wiki posted:

A Dyson–Harrop satellite is a hypothetical megastructure intended for power generation[1] using the solar wind. It is inspired by the Dyson sphere, but much harder to detect from another star system.[1]

The concept for the so-called Dyson–Harrop satellite begins with a long metal wire loop pointed at the sun. This wire is charged to generate a cylindrical magnetic field that snags the electrons that make up half the solar wind. These electrons get funnelled into a metal spherical receiver to produce a current, which generates the wire's magnetic field – making the system self-sustaining. Any current not needed for the magnetic field powers an infrared laser trained on satellite dishes back on Earth, designed to collect the energy. Earth's air does not absorb infra-red light, so the system would be highly efficient. Back on the satellite, the current has been drained of its electrical energy by the laser – the electrons fall onto a ring-shaped sail, where incoming sunlight can excite them enough to keep the satellite in orbit around the sun.[2]

A relatively small Dyson–Harrop satellite using a 1-centimetre-wide copper wire 300 metres long, a receiver 2 metres wide and a sail 10 metres in diameter, sitting at roughly the same distance from the sun as the Earth, could generate 1.7 megawatts of power – enough for about 1000 family homes in the US. Larger sizes could produce far greater amounts of power, even exceeding the current usage of Earth. Satellites could be placed anywhere in the solar system, and networks of satellites could combine to generate terawatts of power.

Because iirc the main drawback of this thing is that the laser would actually be a huge pain in the rear end. It's not particularly efficient, you have to make sure to aim it right, you need good quality systems that aren't going to unfocus the beam at the distance of millions of km, all kinda annoying poo poo like that

Instead you could just clamp a computer, radio, and quantum energy teleporter to a length of copper that's whatever km long... as long as none of the poo poo breaks in transit.

less science fiction-y you could start by just scrapping all major power transmission lines on the planet and just have teleporters accepting energy from wherever it's produced, right? Is that actually what this paper means? Because if that's the case you could build some ridiculous sounding sci fi energy collection system which imports more power than is currently used and decommission almost all planetside energy systems. And you pretty much should, except for anything that needs to be powered up in case of emergency, right?

You could easily power every community, even the most remote locations on the planet, if you have a setup that lets you teleport energy -- even if you don't have some crazy space poo poo. What the hell does this mean for energy storage? Can you leave it "deposited" until you need it?

--

i must be missing a detail and this is a one-shot deal where it breaks down and you can't teleport more than once, or something, there's something i'm missing here, right? You would need a quantum computer the size of a skyscraper to move significant amounts of energy, or some poo poo?


Jazerus posted:

so uhh

negative energy is the stuff required for a ship-portable alcubierre drive right?

and yeah, what the gently caress???

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
this is some SMAC bullshit is what it sounds like. We already had Biden considering nerve stapling drug addicts in the 70s or whatever, this stuff is getting beyond me

i'm too old and dumb for this poo poo i'm going back to banging rocks together and trying to light campfires

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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

SniperWoreConverse posted:

someone who understands this poo poo figure out if you can in practice swap out whatever substation facility for an energy teleporter or not. Is it actually possible to slap one of these bad boys on a dyson-harrop and have it phone the energy to wherever it's needed without dicking around with aiming big energy emitters and receivers?

Because iirc the main drawback of this thing is that the laser would actually be a huge pain in the rear end. It's not particularly efficient, you have to make sure to aim it right, you need good quality systems that aren't going to unfocus the beam at the distance of millions of km, all kinda annoying poo poo like that

Instead you could just clamp a computer, radio, and quantum energy teleporter to a length of copper that's whatever km long... as long as none of the poo poo breaks in transit.

less science fiction-y you could start by just scrapping all major power transmission lines on the planet and just have teleporters accepting energy from wherever it's produced, right? Is that actually what this paper means? Because if that's the case you could build some ridiculous sounding sci fi energy collection system which imports more power than is currently used and decommission almost all planetside energy systems. And you pretty much should, except for anything that needs to be powered up in case of emergency, right?

You could easily power every community, even the most remote locations on the planet, if you have a setup that lets you teleport energy -- even if you don't have some crazy space poo poo. What the hell does this mean for energy storage? Can you leave it "deposited" until you need it?

--

i must be missing a detail and this is a one-shot deal where it breaks down and you can't teleport more than once, or something, there's something i'm missing here, right? You would need a quantum computer the size of a skyscraper to move significant amounts of energy, or some poo poo?

and yeah, what the gently caress???

thinking about the microwave energy disaster mode in SC2000

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