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COPE 27 posted:I work for a big restaraurant chain - actually work with menu development on occasion - and I can confirm we don't design our food to make people feel bad after eating it. You're one of them 
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COPE 27 posted:I work for a big restaraurant chain - actually work with menu development on occasion - and I can confirm we don't design our food to make people feel bad after eating it. I work for your biggest competitor and we have an entire department dedicated to making people feel bad after they eat our food.
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Jan 17, 2023 14:34
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COPE 27 posted:I work for a big restaraurant chain - actually work with menu development on occasion - and I can confirm we don't design our food to make people feel bad after eating it. That would get in the way of designing food to give people diarrhea.
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Jan 17, 2023 14:35
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i feel bad after eating onion rings from burger king because i also feel bad while eating them they bad onion ring
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Jan 17, 2023 14:37
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blatman posted:i feel bad after eating onion rings from burger king because i also feel bad while eating them Those are bad onion rings. Beer battered or just give me fries instead.
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Jan 17, 2023 14:39
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onion rings are ok sides but i think a single onion ring on a burger goes a long way
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Jan 17, 2023 14:39
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Buhduhbuhbuhbuh im feeling bad eating it
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Jan 17, 2023 14:40
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Things we try to do: Make people like our food Things we try not to do: Make people dislike our food
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Jan 17, 2023 14:42
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ok guys new idea, people eat our food and then we kick em in the balls
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Jan 17, 2023 14:42
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A Bakers Cousin posted:ok guys new idea, people eat our food and then we kick em in the balls Congratulations on your management offer from Dick's Last Resort.
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Jan 17, 2023 14:44
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COPE 27 posted:Things we try to do: have you tried simply making food out of pure sugar and fat to maximize the dopamine delivered to the reward center of the lizard brain?
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Jan 17, 2023 14:46
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my goal as a hamburger sandwich engineer is to make a value meal that sends you into a bottomless pit of existential despair as soon as you finish the last bite, so we can make more money
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Jan 17, 2023 14:46
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new burger idea: a pile of sugar in between two slabs of lard
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I still remember my aunts and uncles gathering in the kitchen with my grandma to hold each other and cook through the sadness. I’ve always heard that food brings you together and this was my first memory of that fact. My dad still tells me stories of how Grandpa Vince loved “lard sandwiches” of white bread packed full in creamy leftover rendered lard. Well, I’m not sure if he loved them or if that’s all his family could afford, but I find it ironic how at that time doctors told him to cut the lard out instead of the inflammatory bread. As a society we have been taught to despise the word “lard.” When I was a little girl I remember asking my mom if she wanted me to throw out the gross stuff in the coffee cup that was in the refrigerator door. She cried, “NO! That’s rendered lard, I’m saving that for pie crust!” I thought it was disgusting, but I now know better:) My father often tells me that he thinks about what a long life he would have had if I could have helped him with his diet. I actually think he would have loved the food! Lard sandwiches on Protein bread! What’s not to love?
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Jan 17, 2023 14:48
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Zodium posted:have you tried simply making food out of pure sugar and fat to maximize the dopamine delivered to the reward center of the lizard brain? Nah I don't work at starbucks
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Jan 17, 2023 14:53
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Zodium posted:have you tried simply making food out of pure sugar and fat to maximize the dopamine delivered to the reward center of the lizard brain? Dunkin' Donuts has that market cornered e: lol beaten by basically the same idea
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Jan 17, 2023 15:14
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COPE 27 posted:Nah I don't work at starbucks sounds like starbucks will be eating your company's lunch when you're working against millions of years of evolution like that
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Jan 17, 2023 15:16
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This reminded me though, there's an Experimental Test Kitchen nearby for the PDQ corporation where you can go and try out the latest in chicken science, I should check it out some time.
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Jan 17, 2023 15:16
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My grandpa loved lard on toast but he also had a colostomy and would poo poo in a bucket through his porthole in front of us kids
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Jan 17, 2023 15:18
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Zodium posted:sounds like starbucks will be eating your company's lunch when you're working against millions of years of evolution like that Do you not live in the US or something, there's a starbucks on like every other corner of every single town here
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Jan 17, 2023 15:19
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Like of all the companies to pick to be an example of how "add a ton of fuckin' sugar to the detriment of everything else" doesn't work, Starbucks is a hell of a choice
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Jan 17, 2023 15:20
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A Bakers Cousin posted:I still remember my aunts and uncles gathering in the kitchen with my grandma to hold each other and cook through the sadness. I’ve always heard that food brings you together and this was my first memory of that fact. Tiberius Christ posted:My grandpa loved lard on toast but he also had a colostomy and would poo poo in a bucket through his porthole in front of us kids Please just get to the recipe
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Jan 17, 2023 15:24
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Shame Boy posted:Do you not live in the US or something, there's a starbucks on like every other corner of every single town here do you think maybe the fact that this is particular to america might say something about your evolutionary theory of the big mac?
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Jan 17, 2023 15:25
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evolutionary psychology people are the worst
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Fun fact: by cups per day per capita, Americans are in the top three coffee-drinkers in the world. However, since Americans don't actually drink coffee when they "drink coffee" they are only 25th in actual coffee consumed per capita per year.
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Zodium posted:do you think maybe the fact that this is particular to america might say something about your evolutionary theory of the big mac? lol ok Zodium posted:evolutionary psychology people are the worst Lmao yes it's  all the way down and I have been jorp in disguise the whole time
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Jan 17, 2023 15:28
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So going by these posts I'm gonna assume your answer to my previous question is "yes, I do in fact think the spirit body is what drives food consumption", and I apologize for harshing your aura this whole time.
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Jan 17, 2023 15:29
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i think food preference is conditioned, and not "programmed by millions of years of evolution."
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Jan 17, 2023 15:34
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Zodium posted:evolutionary psychology people are the worst funny you should say that. lots of people are salty about this Santollo, J., Daniels, D., Leshem, M., et al. (2023). Sex differences in salt appetite: Perspectives from animal models and human studies. Nutrients. doi:10.3390/nu15010208. quote:Salt ingestion by animals and humans has been noted from prehistory. The search for salt is largely driven by a physiological need for sodium. There is a large body of literature on sodium intake in laboratory rats, but the vast majority of this work has used male rats. The limited work conducted in both male and female rats, however, reveals sex differences in sodium intake. Importantly, while humans ingest salt every day, with every meal and with many foods, we do not know how many of these findings from rodent studies can be generalized to men and women. This review provides a synthesis of the literature that examines sex differences in sodium intake and highlights open questions. Sodium serves many important physiological functions and is inextricably linked to the maintenance of body fluid homeostasis. Indeed, from a motivated behavior perspective, the drive to consume sodium has largely been studied in conjunction with the study of thirst. This review will describe the neuroendocrine controls of fluid balance, mechanisms underlying sex differences, sex differences in sodium intake, changes in sodium intake during pregnancy, and the possible neuronal mechanisms underlying these differences in behavior. Having reviewed the mechanisms that can only be studied in animal experiments, we address sex differences in human dietary sodium intake in reproduction, and with age. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230116/How-salt-appetite-differs-between-males-and-females.aspx posted:Like rats, sex differences in sodium intake have also been widely reported in humans. Although sex hormones likely impact the salt appetite of many animals, such differences remain unclear in humans and are likely multifactorial. 😂
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I saw a thing many years ago about how babies will like salty foods more if their mothers ate a lot of salt during pregnancy there was a pic of happy and pissed off babies tasting salt solutions but i don't have it to post
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Zodium posted:i think food preference is conditioned, and not "programmed by millions of years of evolution." That's at least more reasonable than... whatever the hell you were saying before, though I think you're gonna have a hard time showing that any living being more complex than like a slime mold doesn't have at least some innate reward feedback system that says "fat / sugar / salt / carbs good, find more of that"
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Zodium posted:this is a childlike understanding of the brain, taste perception and food preference. mcdonalds has not been engineered to be delicious, but to be addictive. it's supposed to make you feel good while eating it and bad after eating it, much like cigarettes make you feel good while smoking and bad after smoking it. this first-good-then-bad dynamic underpins consumer product addiction. it has to do with dopamine and "lizard brains" in only the most trivial sense. i was on the Mc-burger design team in 1971 and we knew for sure that the burgers didn't need fat, sugar or salt to sell. those are ingredients that cost money and just get in the way of the main factor in selling burgers, punishment. the burger needs to humiliate you and make you feel sick otherwise you won't come back every day at lunch time when you are coincidentally and entirely unrelatedly also hungry for fat sugar and salt.
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I like burgers, but I also like pho. Explain this, evolutionailures!
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Shame Boy posted:That's at least more reasonable than... whatever the hell you were saying before, though I think you're gonna have a hard time showing that any living being more complex than like a slime mold doesn't have at least some innate reward feedback system that says "fat / sugar / salt / carbs good, find more of that" nobody's saying living beings don't have reward systems you evopsych dumbass
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I'm veering towards a low-zodium diet right now. According to Zodium's dumb-rear end theories, the opposite should happen and I should want to read more of their posts 
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Paladinus posted:I like burgers, but I also like pho. Explain this, evolutionailures! I would eat pho but would gently caress the burger. (insert mcdonalds "i'd hit that" web ad here)
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Shame Boy posted:That's at least more reasonable than... whatever the hell you were saying before, though I think you're gonna have a hard time showing that any living being more complex than like a slime mold doesn't have at least some innate reward feedback system that says "fat / sugar / salt / carbs good, find more of that" Make us all slime molds again
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Zodium posted:sounds like starbucks will be eating your company's lunch when you're working against millions of years of evolution like that SB has the sugar fiends locked down, we're going after a different target demo
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If you feel bad about eating a burger you eat too many burgers. Sorry for the hard truth.
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Milosh posted:If you feel bad about eating a burger you eat too many burgers. Or maybe you're feeling regret for not having eaten enough burgers. There is a burger equilibrium
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