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mcmagic posted:The funny thing about Kenobi was the pilot was actually pretty good!!!!!! not sure what happened. Hmmm we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one because I was about a third of the way out the door by the end of it. But I felt it got even worse from there, so the whole "it declined over time" seems to track to both of us.
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I watched one of the ewok movies and it was'nt bad, def made for tv vibes but had the same gritty space junk aesthetic as the old movies that the new ones tried to recapture definitely was better than the power rangers episode of boba fett
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A MIRACLE posted:I watched one of the ewok movies and it was'nt bad, def made for tv vibes but had the same gritty space junk aesthetic as the old movies that the new ones tried to recapture I don't know how or why the art got lost but for whatever reason it's really hard for modern day production design to do "gritty" correctly (and I don't just mean 'aping the 80s dirty fantasy aesthetic', for example Se7en does gritty in a completely different way and it works) . Watching Willow The Movie and Willow The Show back to back was insane; the new one looks like a Golan-Globus product. Andor built an entire mining town set and the closest they got to "this feels gritty and lived it" was "pretty good" in my opinion. Something is lacking.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I don't know how or why the art got lost but for whatever reason it's really hard for modern day production design to do "gritty" correctly (and I don't just mean 'aping the 80s dirty fantasy aesthetic', for example Se7en does gritty in a completely different way and it works) . Watching Willow The Movie and Willow The Show back to back was insane; the new one looks like a Golan-Globus product. Andor built an entire mining town set and the closest they got to "this feels gritty and lived it" was "pretty good" in my opinion. Something is lacking. Speaking of this, I watched Prisoners this past weekend after realizing I never saw it. It was pretty good (I thought the performances were great, but there was too much focus on mood and nothing developed at all about the "villains." Felt like any motivation or backstory were just given in a few throwaway lines). But the stars of that movie are the locations/production design/cinematography. God that poo poo feels *bleak*.
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mcmagic posted:The funny thing about Kenobi was the pilot was actually pretty good!!!!!! not sure what happened. It’s because “Kenobi sits in the dirt and sadly contemplates the years of failure and regret that led him to this moment” was always going to be the most interesting part of that show. And of course it also ended up being the aspect that was least explored in favor of some dumb adventure that didn’t need to happen in the first place.
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A MIRACLE posted:I watched one of the ewok movies and it was'nt bad, def made for tv vibes but had the same gritty space junk aesthetic as the old movies that the new ones tried to recapture I used to love the ewok movies as a kid, but had never seen any Star Wars movie, so I had no idea they were related. When I finally watched the original trilogy in 8th grade, I was floored when the ewoks showed up.
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People paid for Obi-Wan/Darth Vader fights, along with Darth Vader doing lots of gnarly Darth Vader stuff, and they got some. We also explained how Leia knew Obi-Wan, which is critical information. She was kidnapped by Flea.
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Every single thing in Kenobi originated as a throwaway line in A New Hope that the worst kind of fans could never just take at face value worldbuilding and always demanded an overwrought explanation for. A whole lot of Disney Star Wars is the fandom reaping what it’s been sowing for 30 years and completely rejecting what little original and interesting material they’ve been given. I’m almost shocked Andor has been so widely well-received because it’s not just 10 episodes of references.
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Jan 18, 2023 00:15
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Lmao is The Drop a sequel to The Slap???
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precision posted:Lmao is The Drop a sequel to The Slap??? No. I was just fooling around. However it seemed thematically linked a lil' bit so I went there. It's also very funny to me that there would be some sort of cinematic universe about a bunch of child abusers.
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yes Michael Mando, who played Nacho on Better Call Saul, is amazing.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Every single thing in Kenobi originated as a throwaway line in A New Hope that the worst kind of fans could never just take at face value worldbuilding and always demanded an overwrought explanation for. this is why i'll never watch any of these shows, no matter how good people say they are these loving fans flipping their poo poo to TLJ is what gave us a complete turd for the finale in that trilogy. i'm so pissed that rian johnson couldn't finish the goddamn sequel trilogy. some loving committee of dickheads did it instead.
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Sourdough Sam posted:yes Michael Mando, who played Nacho on Better Call Saul, is amazing. Speaking of, BCS’s final season was great but I’d be lying if Nacho’s relatively early death didn’t put a damper on the season for a few episodes. Easily the 4th or 5th best character on the show behind Kim, Jimmy, and Chuck.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:these loving fans flipping their poo poo to TLJ is what gave us a complete turd for the finale in that trilogy. i'm so pissed that rian johnson couldn't finish the goddamn sequel trilogy. some loving committee of dickheads did it instead. Yup, he was actually taking the series in an interesting direction. Then they poo poo the bed
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FWIW, I don’t think Rian was ever on the shortlist to finish the sequel trilogy. He was only ever going to do TLJ and then move on to his own trilogy, and the stand-alone trilogy is what all the idiot fan overreactions killed. Episode IX was always Trevorrow’s to helm until Book of Henry flopped and Carrie Fisher’s death necessitated pretty much a Page 1 rewrite.
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It's also worth noting that Trevorrow probably wouldn't have been canned just for Book Of Henry if people liked working with him. If someone's an rear end in a top hat that makes things difficult a flop is a lot more dangerous.
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Jan 18, 2023 02:21
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Somehow, star wars debate returned
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TLJ also only seems okay-ish in comparison to how hilariously poo poo the end of that trilogy was, it was not a good movie
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Nah, it’s good.
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Inspector Hound posted:Somehow, star wars debate returned But the star wars refused to change...
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This lit cringe slaps tho. Cowabunga dudes
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veni veni veni posted:"adult animation" shows are also good for this. this reminded me... over the garden wall on hbo max is really great. it's not adult animation, tho, its legit animation for children. i think it was on nickelodeon? but anyway it rocks and each episode is like 9 minutes which is great for poo poo attention spans like mine. also star wars sucks, you guys.
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I have people whose taste I actually respect recommending me Andor. Like people not into any stupid poo poo. People who werent emotionally moved by Spider-Man A Far Way Home or w/e that one with homeless mentally ill willem dafoe is. It's scary and it might eventually convince me.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:FWIW, I don’t think Rian was ever on the shortlist to finish the sequel trilogy. He was only ever going to do TLJ and then move on to his own trilogy, and the stand-alone trilogy is what all the idiot fan overreactions killed. Nah, I remember news coming out saying that Rian was offered to do IX but turned it down because he was exhausted.
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Papercut posted:TLJ also only seems okay-ish in comparison to how hilariously poo poo the end of that trilogy was, it was not a good movie You're right, it isn't good -- it's great.
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TLJ is a good sci-fi movie but not a good Star Wars movie
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I have people whose taste I actually respect recommending me Andor. Like people not into any stupid poo poo. People who werent emotionally moved by Spider-Man A Far Way Home or w/e that one with homeless mentally ill willem dafoe is. It's scary and it might eventually convince me. Andor is a series of films about authoritarianism and revolution.The Star Wars setting is candy coating for man children that magically works. It's a real good show.
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I ended up watching Fleishman is in Trouble based on the recommendation of some people here, despite being totally uninterested by the trailer. I absolutely loved it. Excellent choice to cast actors who got famous playing teenagers (Jessie Eisenberg, Lizzy Caplan, Adam Brody, Clare Danes) who are all now about 40 years old. I'm glad I binged it all instead of waiting to watch it week to week as I suspect I would have gotten frustrated with the pacing, but also would have forgotten some elements.
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ShoogaSlim posted:this reminded me... over the garden wall on hbo max is really great. it's not adult animation, tho, its legit animation for children. i think it was on nickelodeon? but anyway it rocks and each episode is like 9 minutes which is great for poo poo attention spans like mine. Oh is that finally streaming?? I paid like 30 bucks for a DVD copy a while ago because it was caught up in rights holder hell, glad it's really available now
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Nihonniboku posted:I ended up watching Fleishman is in Trouble based on the recommendation of some people here, despite being totally uninterested by the trailer. Yeah the complaint that it's too precious and White Guy Problems prolly only comes from people who turned it off after 20 minutes
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precision posted:Yeah the complaint that it's too precious and White Guy Problems prolly only comes from people who turned it off after 20 minutes There were little things scattered throughout that gave me pause, just thought that was the theme of the show that they were going with, but they were clues that I probably would have forgotten had I not the binged. Hell, maybe I was too dense, but I didn't even realized until that one episode who the main character of the show was.
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precision posted:Oh is that finally streaming?? I paid like 30 bucks for a DVD copy a while ago because it was caught up in rights holder hell, glad it's really available now For a while it was steaming on prime but atm its only available to buy digital
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yoohoo posted:TLJ is a good sci-fi movie but not a good Star Wars movie It'd be a terrible sci-fi movie. The main plot is in a holding pattern while the protagonist discovers herself, so it spends a bunch of time on subplots that don't end up really mattering that much. Its also pretty bloated. It'd really need its length cut down to be a good standalone sci-fi movie.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:For a while it was steaming on prime but atm its only available to buy digital It's been on HBO Max for years, I rewatch it every October. There's also this pilot episode/short available on YouTube. It's not officially part of the series but it's still good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-0vZeaIrFg
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I'm sure I'm going to be in the minority with this but The Last of Us just didn't do it for me on the first episode. I mean it's definitely made competently and I'll watch the next few episodes... but it definitely just felt like more of the same wrt post-apocalyptic zombie stuff. I bounced off of it pretty hard. The fungus stuff is cool... especially the sprouts coming out of the mouths... yuck. But all of the firefly rebellion, etc and pretty much everything just felt very surface level video game-y to me.
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Is the main character in The Last of Us being sure to thoroughly search each room for collectibles
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Word is they got rid of the spores? That was one of the coolest parts, I don't get it.
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Rental Sting posted:Word is they got rid of the spores? That was one of the coolest parts, I don't get it. They did. I have several theories why. First, the idea of spores being in a "contained" area is kind of dumb and only applies to video game logic. They'd just be invisible in the show obviously because its' more grounded in reality and that wouldn't make for interesting visuals or storytelling. You'd never really have a good mechanism for showing them in the show unless you made them comically big and things just get out of hand with viewer immersion then. It'd start to look farcical. Also it becomes an easy out that would lose the trust of the viewer. "Oh they just weren't in there when the thought they were." "Oh actually surprise you didn't see the spores and now you're dead!" You need to set a level of trust and ground rules with the viewer since they aren't in control of anything like a video game. Invisible spores, in my opinion, is too loose of a mechanism for a show to be able to set those rules.
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That's largely it They said Covid led to them realizing how greatly they underestimated airborne contaminants in the games and used the tendrils to address that but moreso so they didn't have another show where Pedro Pascal in a mask all the time.
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