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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Vargs posted:

Secretly hoping that Dehya sucks so that I can justify pulling 2 Yelans instead.

Going to chime in with my periodic comment about how absurd her C1 is.

Of course, people are entirely correct when they say that it's dumb in 99% of circumstances to roll for a 5* constellation (since you're still forgoing a chance at someone new), but if you're going to do it that's probably one of the most impactful ones to do it for. I almost feel like they made a mistake by having her Skill's second use recharge while her first is being used, because it results in her effectively just being able to use it twice as much.

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RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Mordiceius posted:

As soon as you care about whether a character is "good" or "useful" you have left the path of zen.

i only play the game to press buttons if i wanted to stare at jpegs i would replace my computer with an anime wall scroll

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

yes but you can press buttons with any character even dori or candace
this game is not difficult even slightly
candace does things so she can kill the enemies in the video game

the difference between the top tier and the bottom tier is killing a hilichurl camp in 10 seconds vs 13 seconds

sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009

Mordiceius posted:

As soon as you care about whether a character is "good" or "useful" you have left the path of zen.

That's more or less true because GI is a very easy game, but it can also be argued that if a character is "bad" by way of a poorly designed or lovely-performing kit, they do not feel fun to play, therefore you're effectively being punished for pulling them because you liked their design or characterization - it doesn't really matter how awesome a character looks if they're not fun to play.

Likewise it's possible for a garbage character (in terms of design and personailty) to have really fun gameplay and a strong kit and therefore be worth pulling and playing even if you actively dislike them. See wanderer.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever

Endorph posted:

yes but you can press buttons with any character even dori or candace

learn a new song

brainwrinkle
Oct 18, 2009

What's going on in here?
Buglord
Weird Al Haithovic feels pretty fun to play in the trial at least. If I weren’t saving for Dehya I’d be tempted to burn a 50/50 pity.

Alas I pulled Yaoyao in 18 rolls and she seems to be the far more useful Dendro of the two. I’m so excited to run her in a 3 electro team (or perhaps 2 electro and Kazuha). Also, it doesn’t look like she really needs a few constellations for once? C2 looks nice for energy but I think she’s actually usable out of the box unlike some 4*s.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Anyone else have issues with the audio making a crackling noise on pc? Its happened before but I have no idea what makes it come and go. Its only in genshin too

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
Alas, my zany scheme to secure a standard banner Faruzan by saving all my blue wishes for two months didn't work out. I did get C2 for Shinobu, at least, which is a boon for my Hyperbloom team. And even better, R2 for my Bell.

MoonCrab
Nov 19, 2014

A mildly pertubed emoji face
Huh, game went up earlier than expected? Ok.

Last year, tried to snipe a Yun Jin and got three 5 stars within 30 pulls. This year, tried to snipe a miracle Haith and got Yaoyao within 30 pulls. Desire sensor real :/

Edit: Got Skyward Atlas R4 from Yaoyao fates :shepicide:
Seven 5 star weapons on my account, and 4 of them are Skyward Atlas..!!
You know, it's been said that refining 5 star weapons as a f2p player is stupid. But am I really gonna need 4 skyward atlas? I usually don't even use 1... got an R5 Widsith I never use, also...
I bet if I R3d one of them I wouldn't even notice.

EDIT: :siren:PROTOTYPE ARANARA HAS BEEN ADDED TO TEAPOT:siren:

MoonCrab fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jan 18, 2023

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
al hatty seems like he'd be quite happy with the water following him around, nilou-wise. Seems alright.

More importantly: there's now an icon for poo poo that's underground!




DeadFatDuckFat posted:

Anyone else have issues with the audio making a crackling noise on pc? Its happened before but I have no idea what makes it come and go. Its only in genshin too

When that happens, unplugging my headphones and putting them back sorts it out. Assuming that's doable with your setup.

MoonCrab posted:


EDIT: :siren:PROTOTYPE ARANARA HAS BEEN ADDED TO TEAPOT:siren:

There's a god of the stove statue too. Donno if that was in there earlier.

Zenostein fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jan 18, 2023

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?


got my al but had to blow through all my primos so i guess im sol for his sword

then my bf does a single pull on his account and gets al immediately.

:shepicide:

thaaaaats gacha

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Already loving my shiny new Dendro baby. Level 50 1/1/1 and she's already pulling her weight. Her burst is also a lot nicer than I anticipated.

https://i.imgur.com/MGOhqhL.mp4

Dendro nerd's trial was chaotic but fun. Gonna take some getting used to his rhythm. Hopefully I won't regret the 80-something wishes it took to hit pity. At least it was a 50/50 win...

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

free yaoyao when

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Cat-shaped Witch posted:

free yaoyao when

chinese new year is the 23rd so probably then, if i understand the genshin-specific half of the giveaway correctly

haypliss
Oct 2, 2022

sushibandit posted:

That's more or less true because GI is a very easy game, but it can also be argued that if a character is "bad" by way of a poorly designed or lovely-performing kit, they do not feel fun to play, therefore you're effectively being punished for pulling them because you liked their design or characterization - it doesn't really matter how awesome a character looks if they're not fun to play.

Likewise it's possible for a garbage character (in terms of design and personailty) to have really fun gameplay and a strong kit and therefore be worth pulling and playing even if you actively dislike them. See wanderer.

Yes, idk why it always has to devolve into being obtuse about there being some level to which the (ease of) gameplay aspect of the character affects enjoyment for plenty of people. Maybe positioning this as a defense of a concept ("doomposting") that reddit has run well past a sane limit is the problem.

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


After spending weeks amassing primos and resisting the urge to roll, I get Al haitham on my first ten pull :tviv:

MoonCrab
Nov 19, 2014

A mildly pertubed emoji face
Yaoyao is actually a little better than expected!

Didn't realize that her radishes had a little bit of splash damage, and that they could be pulled by (at least) Sucrose and Kazuha. That makes her a super solid dendro applicator in both Anemo/Electro/Electro/Yaoyao teams, and also in Anemo/Electro/Hydro/Yaoyao hyperbloom teams were the Anemo is the primary hyperbloom trigger (using swirls). I though she was gonna be an 8/10 unit but in my mind it was a shaky 8. But no, she's actually a super solid unit. I can see her being used in tons of teams.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

if they can be pulled by sucrose and kazuha venti can probably suck them up into his air vortex too which could lead to some funny combos

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
They changed the Yoimiya card to require 3 energy for the burst instead of 2. :negative:

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
Uhh excuse me why is Yelan getting a re-run before Shenhe? :raise:

Yelan came out like 6 months ago. Shenhe came out a year ago!

MoonCrab
Nov 19, 2014

A mildly pertubed emoji face

Endorph posted:

if they can be pulled by sucrose and kazuha venti can probably suck them up into his air vortex too which could lead to some funny combos

Looks like no for Venti burst. Must be coded like Klee bombs or something :shrug:

But yes for Faruzan's skill-enhanced charge shots! Big W for the thundering fury Faruzan mains.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Enjoying Yaoyao as a burgeon driver so much more than I could've imagined. She makes a great little harbinger of green death.

https://i.imgur.com/PR6htVx.mp4

Sorry Diluc, looks like you're staying in storage for now. Thoma's way better here.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Goddamn. The Xingqiu/Yoimiya/Ayaka deck is completely loving nerfed into the ground. :negative:

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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Alhaitham seems to be all about managing cooldowns/stacks to stay at his 3-mirror mode as long as possible and get tons of sword rain, but the actual mirror indicators are really hard to see when you're fighting stuff in melee range and covered in effects and blooms and damage numbers. Seems like a character you'll have to memorize the timings and do it by 'feel' for.

Also I thought yaoyao's burst was a turret summoning thing but it's actually a really short duration hypermode that ends when she swaps out, that's kinda cool? Less useful than a full duration 3x dendro oz but I guess that would've been insanely OP

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

oh it looks like the free liyue pic starts the 19th, that's sooner than expected!!

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

Mordiceius posted:

They changed the Yoimiya card to require 3 energy for the burst instead of 2. :negative:

I was wondering if/when the meta nerfs would start coming in on the cards. Collei's skill card looks to have been nerfed to 4 cost as well.

Edit: Hit several things from the meta. In true Genshin fashion, freeze unaffected. :v:

Mailer fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jan 18, 2023

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

MoonCrab posted:

Looks like no for Venti burst. Must be coded like Klee bombs or something :shrug:

But yes for Faruzan's skill-enhanced charge shots! Big W for the thundering fury Faruzan mains.
I hear that if you hit the rabbit with Sucrose's skill at the right point in its animation, you can get a dendro Swirl off it.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

FractalSandwich posted:

I hear that if you hit the rabbit with Sucrose's skill at the right point in its animation, you can get a dendro Swirl off it.
That would be surprising...

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S
20 pulls get me an Alhaitham, a Yaoyao, a Yunjin, and zero Xinyans. Perfect.



So last week I was knocking out the Elemental Specialist achievements, and I saw that it kept track the total number of times you've done each one. Freezing is clearly the easiest one on the list. I've got mine up over 1000. That's a pretty high number right there.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

What are thoughts on Yaoyao? Having a Dendro healer seems like it could enable some different teams, though I don't know how good she actually is at either healing or facilitating various reactions.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Alhaitham seems to be all about managing cooldowns/stacks to stay at his 3-mirror mode as long as possible and get tons of sword rain, but the actual mirror indicators are really hard to see when you're fighting stuff in melee range and covered in effects and blooms and damage numbers. Seems like a character you'll have to memorize the timings and do it by 'feel' for.

Ugh, that sucks. I don't know why they don't make that stuff easier to see. It's also really hard to see with Wanderer's thing, though that's at least less important. At least give it an obvious sound effect or something.

Mordiceius posted:

They changed the Yoimiya card to require 3 energy for the burst instead of 2. :negative:

Seriously? drat, that sucks since Yoimiya is my "main" card character and the only one I currently have a shiny card for (though it's also probably fair because Yoimiya seems kinda ridiculous to begin with).

Apparently it also increased the initial damage from 3 to 4, though that obviously doesn't make up for the higher cost.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Sanctum posted:

Uhh excuse me why is Yelan getting a re-run before Shenhe? :raise:

Yelan came out like 6 months ago. Shenhe came out a year ago!

Niche sales vs mass appeal.

Shenhe is very good in her specific role but outside of it? Wheras Yelan can basically go in any team where you use regular attacks.

We probably won't see a Nilou re-run for a long time either.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
The interactive map on Hoyolab has a mode for Sumeru's underground areas now. The "underground" indicator for teleport waypoints also appeared on there before it showed up in-game, so hopefully this is a sign of things to come too.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

They added the zippy-zoom things into the cave of the Dendro cube. Good addition.

valuum
Sep 3, 2003
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Going on holiday for the weekend so I cant play until monday. Looks like I wont miss out anything timed though :toot:

Vargs posted:

Secretly hoping that Dehya sucks so that I can justify pulling 2 Yelans instead.

Joining the secret hope crew, I use Yelan for basically everything and C1 looks fantastic.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

No really feeling Alhaitham, honestly. Not sure what he has over Nahida. Already got my Yaoyao off the banner so I'm just gonna sit back and wait for a verdict.

MajorBonnet
May 28, 2009

How did I get here?
A couple of new redemption codes:

DAQS9FPX2U35 https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/gift?code=DAQS9FPX2U35 Primos + books
FTRUFT7AT5SV https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/gift?code=FTRUFT7AT5SV Books, mora, ore, food

MNSNTZR
Oct 13, 2012

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Alhaitham seems to be all about managing cooldowns/stacks to stay at his 3-mirror mode as long as possible and get tons of sword rain, but the actual mirror indicators are really hard to see when you're fighting stuff in melee range and covered in effects and blooms and damage numbers. Seems like a character you'll have to memorize the timings and do it by 'feel' for.

it sucks that easier mirror management is “just play him like keqing” with the CA spam

i’m hoping hoyo likes money enough to make kaveh fix how weird this kit is somehow but, for now, he’s pretty solidly in the “least fun kit (not ganyu)” tier with me

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Stare-Out posted:

No really feeling Alhaitham, honestly. Not sure what he has over Nahida. Already got my Yaoyao off the banner so I'm just gonna sit back and wait for a verdict.

They serve different purposes. Nahida is primarily an off field dendro applicator that also buffs the parties EM. Alhaitham is a on field primary damage dealer. In fact current super early impressions are that they work best together because Nahida helps battery energy and boost Alhaitham's damage without requiring much field time that can interrupt him.

MNSNTZR posted:

it sucks that easier mirror management is “just play him like keqing” with the CA spam

i’m hoping hoyo likes money enough to make kaveh fix how weird this kit is somehow but, for now, he’s pretty solidly in the “least fun kit (not ganyu)” tier with me

He doesn't actually want or need to spam CAs at all. His passive will give him a mirror when he hits with a CA or Plunge but only once every 12 seconds. It's just a tool to manage his infusion uptime.

He actually wants to burst at 0 mirrors most of the time to keep high uptime since at 0 it will grant him 3 mirrors after use. A rotation for him looks something like:

Burst
NA Strings until a mirror falls off
CA
NA Strings
Skill
NA Strings

His damage is loaded into his infused normals and the additional lasers shot from his mirrors which do more damage with more mirrors out. When his burst isn't up you basically just have Skill into CA to get to 3 mirrors and it is much less uptime so having a good battery like Nahida will be a big deal for him.

YoshiOfYellow fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jan 18, 2023

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

YoshiOfYellow posted:

They serve different purposes. Nahida is primarily an off field dendro applicator that also buffs the parties EM. Alhaitham is a on field primary damage dealer. In fact current super early impressions are that they work best together because Nahida helps battery energy and boost Alhaitham's damage without requiring much field time that can interrupt him.

I use Nahida on-field constantly for my hyperbloom team and it's rad. My point is that Alhaitham feels more like a sidegrade all things considered so unless he brings some unforeseen benefit to a team he feels like a waste of primos at this point.

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Descar
Apr 19, 2010
I have a special talent, and that is to miss every 50/50 pity i possible can. Qiqi'ed once again.

Qiqi is dangerously close to c6 now, and that's not good.
so far i have -

Qiqi c5
Jean c4
Diluc c3
Mona c2
Tighnari c1
Kequing c0

I only use Diluc of these >.<

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