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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Oh just watched the video where they talk about bringing back the Rebel subtype... Any synergies with the old ones lol I mean they can't beat Lin Sivvi (well I hope at least), so any non-white rebels are meaningless, and playing Lin in the 99 is simply a cost too high to get some mediocre red cards.
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Jan 18, 2023 09:18
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they did a "fixed" mental misstep https://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/minor-misstep/
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Jan 18, 2023 10:53
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Arivia posted:It’s magic. It travels as far as magic says it does. The card says that the sylex blast would've also damaged a dozen planes that the tree had already linked to, but that seems like a fair trade off to avoid the invasion/infection of the entire multiverse 
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Jan 18, 2023 13:38
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Mat Cauthon posted:… but that seems like a fair trade off to avoid the invasion/infection of the entire multiverse Planeswalkers in Magic lore: Being manipulated, making boneheaded decisions, solving problems via War Crimes. Players seeing the ONE storyline: “I can’t believe these Planeswalkers are making such bad decisions.”
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Jan 18, 2023 13:47
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A big flaming stink posted:they did a "fixed" mental misstep This hits 0 cost spells too now so I look forward to using this against those early turn Mana Crypts and Mox Ambers in Commander.
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Jan 18, 2023 13:54
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All this phyrexia stuff sucks. give me Dominaria Remastered again. also remaster other older sets like this.
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Dizz posted:All this phyrexia stuff sucks. give me Dominaria Remastered again. also remaster other older sets like this. I'm also not a fan of the current arc. Thankfully, it looks like they printed enough DMR to go around, so I'll get to play it at my store this weekend. There's also plenty to order online if you can't get it locally. Drafting at SCG CON, there seemed to be lots of interesting things to do in draft, though it is a slow format as people expected. The aggro decks could get brickwalled by big creatures or regenerating creatures. I also did 2HG where all the games were dominated by empty the warrens since the storm count is easy to get up there with a teammate helping.
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Jabor posted:4 life for a card certainly adds up quick. But if you can get around that (Sheoldred?), it's very strong. Phyrexian Arena just got reprinted
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Jan 18, 2023 16:25
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So that battle thing is likely fake. But what if we got a new non-permanent card type? Like, maybe a spell effect that hangs around, but isn't on the battlefield. Something like suspend cards that hang out in exile, but effect the board like Curse of the Cabal. Mostly just kind of wondering what design space is left for new non-permanent card types. If battles are real, they likely won't be anything like skirmish, since he actually told us about that, and wouldn't have if there was any chance of using it in the future
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Jan 18, 2023 16:31
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Cool card, but the story sure is weird here. All of the horror of phyrexia and compleation is this worse fate than death kind of stuff. They did too good a job with that to turn around and say that 12 planes getting borged is better than 12 planes getting exploded. All of the art and story they've done makes this trolley problem land in a way opposite to what they apparently want.
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Jan 18, 2023 16:33
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so elspeth keeps eating poo poo and then loving dies. tune into the next mtg set where phyrexians are still getting away with it while the good people slip on banana peels
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Jan 18, 2023 16:36
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S they all sacrifice everything to get the sylex into position but have a change of heart once they get there? Because they didn't realize the tree was ready and coonnected? But they think it's better to just let the phyrexians do their thing? Why did we even have the BRO story then? lol.
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Art is great, even if it is a direct riff on Path to Exile, card is interesting on it costing 3 more if it targets a creature, but man they should have let that bowl explode, what a dumb dumb dumb story arc that reeks of padding the story out in the most asinine way possible. Gotta have that MTG: Endgame in the next set cause everything needs to be Mahvel. Jiro fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 18, 2023 |
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I wonder if they're going to say the 12 planes the tree is connected to are the same 12 that were broken away from the multiverse with the original explosion.
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Jan 18, 2023 16:55
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Jan 18, 2023 16:56
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I'm not sure why "some of the planeswalkers think that there could be better solutions than murdering billions of people" is a problem. Were they supposed to react like a single entity and to have the same opinion?
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Jan 18, 2023 17:09
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Sad that they used that really good art on 'you'll play it if you have to' level common
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YggdrasilTM posted:I'm not sure why "some of the planeswalkers think that there could be better solutions than murdering billions of people" is a problem. Were they supposed to react like a single entity and having the same opinion? I mean yes I'd think the strike team specifically chosen to set up a bomb to destroy the macguffin linking dozens of planes might have considered said macguffin may have already been in place and were on the same page regarding that contingency
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Jan 18, 2023 17:11
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Back in my day the strike team of planeswalkers sent into Phyrexia to blow something up had mechs.
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A Moose posted:If battles are real, they likely won't be anything like skirmish, since he actually told us about that, and wouldn't have if there was any chance of using it in the future They tell us about unreleased mechanics that eventually see print all the time - the Forbidden mechanic that got cut from Avacyn Restored eventually turned into Lessons in Strixhaven as a recent example, and skirmish was cited as an inspiration for venturing into the dungeon.
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This is . . . interesting. https://twitter.com/day9tv/status/1615748478361034752
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YggdrasilTM posted:I'm not sure why "some of the planeswalkers think that there could be better solutions than murdering billions of people" is a problem. Were they supposed to react like a single entity and having the same opinion? I think it's more along the line of having the story written in a way that has most if not all your people turn into Borg, extensive descriptions on how being MTG Borg is pretty horrible, and now you have given them access to billions of other beings to get assimilated, everything is hopeless, major characters make dumb decisions without real natural story progression as to why, all to serve the plot's corporate mandated destination in having some big gently caress off battle for the next set. The problem with bringing in a MacGuffin that's supposed to solve the problem, is having a setting where magic exists, that enables you to do infinite amounts of bullshit in order to get to the climax, why not have your big boom go off? Make up more bullshit that has the explosion contained, or Norn just opens a portal at the portal tree and the sylex just falls into a pocket dimension and it's rendered moot, poo poo get rid of Elspeth that way instead of her making a dumb sacrifice. You give your main villain something to do other than just posture, you get your bleak hopelessness, and your main protagonists don't come off as idiots that can never stop squabbling amongst themselves.
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I expect Elspeth turning into oldwalker (maybe even Serra reincarnation due to her connection with angels on New Capenna) and nuking the hell out of Phyrexia anyway.
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mikeraskol posted:This is . . . interesting. lol this card is so weird
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fatherboxx posted:I expect Elspeth turning into oldwalker (maybe even Serra reincarnation due to her connection with angels on New Capenna) and nuking the hell out of Phyrexia anyway. An Elspeth Meld Planeswalker would be sweet.
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:
i'm already tired of losing to this
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:
Early contender for biggest bomb in the set
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:
New and improved Carnage Tyrant!
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:
just a bit though
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Wittgen posted:Cool card, but the story sure is weird here. All of the horror of phyrexia and compleation is this worse fate than death kind of stuff. They did too good a job with that to turn around and say that 12 planes getting borged is better than 12 planes getting exploded. All of the art and story they've done makes this trolley problem land in a way opposite to what they apparently want. I mean, it looks like the hubris of Norn thinking she can invade 12 planes simultaneously while fending off two of her own Praetors is what does her in. Congrats motherfucker, the gates go both ways. Now you're dealing with an alliance of Kaldheim, Arcavios, Innistrad, Theros, Ravnica, Kamigawa, Dominaria, Kaladesh, along with a few others and now this big rear end Cyclops has your delicate porcelain skull in a headlock you dumb nerd. This is similar to Bolas thinking the best place to enact his plan to absorb the sparks of all other planeswalkers is on the most populous plane led by a dragon that has contingencies for every outcome.
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Wittgen posted:Cool card, but the story sure is weird here. All of the horror of phyrexia and compleation is this worse fate than death kind of stuff. They did too good a job with that to turn around and say that 12 planes getting borged is better than 12 planes getting exploded. All of the art and story they've done makes this trolley problem land in a way opposite to what they apparently want. I got the impression it might be the entire multiverse and the blind eternities themselves that get irrevocably hosed. Detonating a nuke that'll expand and increase that energy in chaotic ways into infinite planes and places to roil with other upset forces feeding back into the blast. I don't even think "destroyed" would make sense as that gives the images of just the planes being blasted by explosions but I reckon the fear there was literally just obliterating those planes from existence entirely. I thought the other main point was that it was too fuckin late for the original plan, the plan to blow up the phyrexians hinged on reaching the tree before they fired it up. They failed, so they have no plan anymore, Jace is just like "gently caress it imma self righteous suicide right now anyway because i always do what i want." If I was in charge of this story, I think I would've had the Sylex going off at the base of the tree be part of the process necessary to kickstart it, essentially manipulating the team into bringing them the starter log to fire up the tree for the Phyrexians, cue mocking reveal and battle. The Phyrexian threat is also massively overstated. Everyone's on the Phyrexian plane right now and presumably it's a preview of the most devastation the Phyrexians can possible deal to a plane, and they did some crazy poo poo way more complicated than getting a plane ride over to kickstart a conventional warfare invasion. Apparently even in the worst Phyrexians can do, people can manage to survive on it without becoming compleated. At least one person can even undo it and these folks can just hang out on the Phyrexian plane anyway, so clearly non-phyrexian life still finds a way. Only half our heroes got compleated, with how much they talk up Phyrexians would've thought setting foot on their plane was just signing up to join with extra steps. Phyrexians are supposed to be one will, single-minded, but there's straight up old-fashioned demons-in-hell type in-fighting and squabbling constantly. They also aren't much of a hive mind, seems like pretty much everyone is still an individual except they're forcefully obsessed with their new football team, but seems like they still have their memories and emotional hangups and petty problems, enjoy trying to mock their former friends, etc. AngryBooch posted:I mean, it looks like the hubris of Norn thinking she can invade 12 planes simultaneously while fending off two of her own Praetors is what does her in. Congrats motherfucker, the gates go both ways. Now you're dealing with an alliance of Kaldheim, Arcavios, Innistrad, Theros, Ravnica, Kamigawa, Dominaria, Kaladesh, along with a few others and now this big rear end Cyclops has your delicate porcelain skull in a headlock you dumb nerd. Especially if the enemies that exist on those worlds put aside their differences to all come help present a united defense and then counter-offense into Phyrexia. Seems like a lot of planes hold themselves back in-fighting one way or the other, which makes sense when that plane is all there is to you, but with this going on, gently caress whatever people on ravnica or whatever are usually squabbling about. Plus Teferi is gonna figure out how to bring in his whole nation, who have apparently been non-stop preparing for Phyrexian war. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jan 18, 2023 |
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Truly the eternal peril of writing masterminds is that you have to be clever enough to make them smart, lest your heroes be tripping on their shoes to be dumber to make it work. Anyway my dumb prediction is Elspeth comes back with a heretofore unmentioned Eldrazi Titan a her side to wreck New Phyrexia and save the day... BUT AT WHAT COST????
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Next set is march of the machines. Everyone puts their heads together and we'll get a lot of lambs, lions, and giant mechs. Seems inevitable the Phyrexians will be stopped or imprisoned after everyone unites in a big fight using giant mechs.
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The Meditation Plane is going to get attached to the big fuckoff tree and Bolas will be able to come back and traverse planes while also killing off the Phyrexians. Lazy? Yes. Stupid? Also yes. Self-compleated Bolas? I'll take it.
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somebody in continuity hosed up because the tezzeret story they published yesterday implies that dozens, plural, of planes are being invaded
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:
I hadn’t considered trample + toxic until now… Seems like it could be better than infect in some edge cases.
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