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CLAM DOWN posted:This game definitely scratches an itch for me that no other MMO really seems to. I really enjoy it. I really like laser blasting luke skywalker motherfuckers while dressed as a stormtrooper. It rules. Aside from that, I think SWTOR's just in a pretty good place as an MMO. There's lots of things to do and great quality of life overall - I'm particularly grateful that the Bind to Legacy mechanic means you don't have to spend ages grinding to get every alt up to spec at level 80. The only real issue is that the amount of work required to create new content of SWTOR's established level of quality and the comparatively small size of its playerbase (and possibly also its F2P model) mean that you have to settle for considerably less in terms of pure quantity than for the likes of WoW and FF14. That said: I'd rather have 10 minutes of SWTOR's punchy storytelling than 100 of the other two games' overwrought and/or ponderous writing. FF14 especially would try my patience to the extreme, judging from some of the videos I've seen. Field Mousepad posted:Well now I know what I'm doing with my next character *EDIT: I plum forgot they're actually called "origin stories" these days, but you know, who cares really.
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womb with a view posted:I haven't been paying too much attention for the last while, have they gotten around to doing anything with the plot they teased in the most recent cinematic or are they still focusing on Mandalorian stuff for the time being?
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Sombrerotron posted:Obviously the fact that SWTOR is a Star Wars MMO helps set it apart from the rest, but I feel that all aspects of its roleplaying implementation give it something that few if any other MMOs have. Like Shard said, you can play a Dark Side Jedi or a Light Side Sith and it makes a genuine difference, especially during the class story*. It's notable too, I think, that pretty much all of the original content remains well worth playing and even replaying due to said class stories*. You look at an MMO like WoW, and in spite of its plethora of classes, is it really worthwhile to go through older content more than once per faction? And not every MMO even has distinct factions with their own areas and storylines to begin with. Agreed with all that. The only thing that drives me nuts about SWTOR and almost makes me avoid playing it sometimes, is how janky the mouse movement is. I've done the config file trick to lower sensitivity but it's still jerky and janky and spastic and brutal. I hate it so much.
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Sombrerotron posted:Obviously the fact that SWTOR is a Star Wars MMO helps set it apart from the rest, but I feel that all aspects of its roleplaying implementation give it something that few if any other MMOs have. Like Shard said, you can play a Dark Side Jedi or a Light Side Sith and it makes a genuine difference, especially during the class story*. It's notable too, I think, that pretty much all of the original content remains well worth playing and even replaying due to said class stories*. You look at an MMO like WoW, and in spite of its plethora of classes, is it really worthwhile to go through older content more than once per faction? And not every MMO even has distinct factions with their own areas and storylines to begin with. I liked, as a light side sith, being way, way more eager and effective at killing Sith edgelords than anyone else in the game. At some point, as Sith, you save some Republic troopers and they help you kill a Sith and afterwards they're like 'what the gently caress is this' when you let them go. And it works because Sith are loving stupid as poo poo and if you want to kill Sith/bad guys, you should play as a Sith. As light side, you also pretty much only kill extremely bad guys and often let normal people go, or misguided idiots who want to be a Sith. It's kind of a cool story beat where the story has others only get two options: have the player character be their hero, or their doom.
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Yeah, Sith Warrior is (in my opinion) the best "reverse" story to play. But don't just hammer LS choices, alternate between them in a way that fits the narrative you want to play. It's funny because Sith Warrior has one of the funniest LS/DS combos in the game. When you find Jaessa's parents on Tattooine you're faced with the decision to Kill Them (DS)/Spare them (LS). Get them LS points, but then immediately after "What should we do with them?" "Let them go (LS)/Send them to DK to be tortured (DS)". I haven't played it in a bit but that one used to be like 250-300 DS points where normal LS/DS choices were 50.
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Jan 18, 2023 19:53
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I just love the idea that as light side warrior and dark side knight you can get really close to the grey. Just folks who fight for their society but think that their religion may be a tad extreme. Like jedi knight is getting told to forgo any attachments or emotions and he's like that's dumb and warrior is walking around everyone messing up their own chain of command and it would work a lot better if they just focused on being normal.
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LS Sith Warrior is one of the most hilariously good times I've had in an MMO in my life, and easily almost the most fun I've had with a Star Wars story. It has been YEARS since I played that story through and thinking about it still tickles me today.
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My favorite quote from my recent playthrough of it was "finally I get to kill a Sith Lord"
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Jan 18, 2023 20:16
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I'm an inquisitor and I've killed way more empire people than republic
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Field Mousepad posted:I'm an inquisitor and I've killed way more empire people than republic Doing your duty, then. I'm fairly certain the ultimate "rule of two" wasn't aspirational, it's just that there's only 2 guys who survived all the needless infighting. Like, how could the Sith ever be associated with "order" when they backstab and kill each other all the time for next to no gain-- particularly their superiors?
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I was going to make a sith warrior and go LS so that's all great to hear. And is LS or DS inquisitor better? Also DS agent rules, just total psychopath mode.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Agreed with all that. The only thing that drives me nuts about SWTOR and almost makes me avoid playing it sometimes, is how janky the mouse movement is. I've done the config file trick to lower sensitivity but it's still jerky and janky and spastic and brutal. I hate it so much. Anyhoo I played my LS SW as if he didn't care at all about ideology or accumulating/divesting power, but was only interested in the challenge of the thing. There'd be no point in killing someone he had already defeated or who was no threat to begin with, and promises of great rewards meant nothing to him. I think it worked quite well. Also as a LS SW you get to take the piss out of Baras all the time and generally appear disinterested in his machinations and it's the best.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I was going to make a sith warrior and go LS so that's all great to hear. And is LS or DS inquisitor better? DS Inquisitor gets to use the [Shock him] dialogue option way more, but that's really all it has going for it if you ask me.
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Ablative posted:DS Inquisitor gets to use the [Shock him] dialogue option way more, but that's really all it has going for it if you ask me. 
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I will say I've enjoyed the female inquisitor VA a lot more than what I've heard of the male.
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Agreeing with LS SW. I didn't go full 100% LS with mine but I played it as a sith who was just pragmatic and thought everyone around her was dumb as hell, and funny enough that overlaps very well with LS.
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jokes posted:Doing your duty, then. Their chain of command has got to be a total shitshow. I guess that's why they form cults.
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Jan 18, 2023 22:00
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Playing a LS Warrior gets even more hilarious if you take that particular story branch after Eternal Empire and (putting a years-old plot point in spoilers because I got yelled at for it the last time) working for the Republic in secret. You suddenly start acting like a stereotypical DS Sith while getting LS points because this time you're intentionally sabotaging the Empire from within to help the Republic win.
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howe_sam posted:I will say I've enjoyed the female inquisitor VA a lot more than what I've heard of the male. They're both good imo. Dark Side inquisitor is kind of your typical chaotic evil, mustache twirling cackling villain who hurts people because they think it's funny (but also to achieve UNLIMITED POWAAAHHH). It's a difficult thing to write well but I enjoyed in SWTOR, it sufficiently leans into it hard enough and shoots the moon to the point where it is actually kinda funny. It's not the best story in the game but it's a fun way to blow off steam. Ainsley McTree fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jan 18, 2023 |
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Republic Trooper is like a cool action movie IIRC. You go around gathering specialists like a heist movie and then you do a big ol' huntdown of some Bad Bois
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I like the sith inquisitor as a person who doesn't give a poo poo about sith or jedi. She was a slave who is constantly told she sucks and now she's got lightning powers and ghosts in her head and you know what gently caress em all time to get more power so she never becomes a slave again.
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I kind of like the Pokémon aspect of the Inquisitor storyline, where you amble around catching dead Sith lords and shoving them wherever you've got space.
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Sith Megami Tensei
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Magmarashi posted:LS Sith Warrior is one of the most hilariously good times I've had in an MMO in my life, and easily almost the most fun I've had with a Star Wars story. It has been YEARS since I played that story through and thinking about it still tickles me today. same, i played at launch and i still remember it being great fun doubly so because a lot of stuck up starwar nerds played at that time so when playing with randos they would sometimes flip out if you won the "wrong" dialogue roll
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I may have mentioned this before, but I roleplayed my LS Sith Warrior as a failed Padawan who went undercover to try and sabotage the Sith from within(slightly inspired by Ulic Qel-Droma from the old EU). Most of the time, it consisted of killing any Sith that stood in my way, and sparing any Republic character that I could. It really was one of my more memorable playthroughs and would recommend it. There's some dialogue at the end of Act 1, I believe, that was so on point that it surprised me. It was basically my character telling someone(remaining vague for spoiler) that she was "one of the Light", as if she was revealing her inner secret to that person. One of these days, I should probably pick her up again and see if I can get to the point where you go undercover. Now that there's mechanics to play as Jedi Knight, I could fully roleplay her coming back into the Republic fold.
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Shard posted:I just love the idea that as light side warrior and dark side knight you can get really close to the grey. Just folks who fight for their society but think that their religion may be a tad extreme. Like jedi knight is getting told to forgo any attachments or emotions and he's like that's dumb and warrior is walking around everyone messing up their own chain of command and it would work a lot better if they just focused on being normal. I know people knock the Consular storyline as not being as good but I really loved my first character's progression from "Youthful Idealist who thinks she can save everyone with words" loving up and letting rage take her in a crucial moment, and ending up "Cold pragmatist whose only goal is the Republic holding itself together and to get as many Sith killed as possible" grey/ DS Like my storyline options didn't feel like "Teehee I'm evil", they felt coldly pragmatic, or moments of punctuated rage. There's a fun moment where when you are negotiating for the Separatist planet alliance for resources and at one point I basically said "Yeah I'm going to level with ya I actually really don't give a gently caress about any of you, but the Republic will protect you where as the Sith will rape and pillage and kill everyone, so be sure you make the right choice". The calm idealistic voice the female Consular has becomes starkly contrasted when they become jaded and cold. Very much felt like a Revanesque arc of having to become what you hate to beat them. Road to hell paved with Good intentions" and all that. The LS/ grey Agent feels like such a by the book sociopath who wants what's best for the Empire, not these lunatic Sith, and it really feels like you can get your inner Thrawn going.
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My LS Sith Warrior only goes dark side on other Sith - and only if their dialogue is obnoxious (so I end up killing a lot of them). I spare everyone else I can because man, they're just doing their job.
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Yeah I also go dark side on a motherfucker here and there. Some slaver piece of poo poo is like "m-m-mercy milord! I was just trying to make some extra money!" and the light side option is to let him go? lol?
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The thing that makes the Jedi/ Sith conflict fascinating in the Old Republic/ Kotor that the movies have never been able to get right or even attempt is that there are Jedi that will go to extremes to the point of fanaticism and merciful/ "progressive" Sith. The Black/ white morality of movie star wars just makes the whole universe feel loving boring.
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Truga posted:same, i played at launch and i still remember it being great fun
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i really liked inquisitor because 'i'm a hungy boy' is not often a compelling motivator for many video games but it worked there
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So I finally watched a video about how to make credits. I really like Star Wars Academy videos. Explains things as if I were a 5 year old which is what I need. So I found out I was sitting on like 7k of tech frags and now long story short I have 150M credits.
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Shard posted:So I finally watched a video about how to make credits. I really like Star Wars Academy videos. Explains things as if I were a 5 year old which is what I need. So I found out I was sitting on like 7k of tech frags and now long story short I have 150M credits. Yeah Swtorista makes good videos. I don't get how she has the time to spend that she does on SWTOR stuff. I've helped her make a few guides and videos and I get worn out just doing a couple things. I also feel bad because she has to deal with the extra fun of being a girl on the Internet. We hung out a bit at the Star Wars Celebration cantina in Chicago and she told me some stories hooo boy. I also got to meet Non-entity there and that's when our love became real
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Medullah posted:Yeah Swtorista makes good videos. I don't get how she has the time to spend that she does on SWTOR stuff. I've helped her make a few guides and videos and I get worn out just doing a couple things. Ill be honest I tried a couple of different channels and I went back to hers the most because her voice was soothing and calm. Everyone else was a bit shrill and grating. Sucks she goes through that her effort and yours are appreciated.
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Light side warrior is worth doing for two scenes in particular (the Oasis, and the scene where you are trying to get Jaesas folks phone number on Alderaan)
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Shard posted:Ill be honest I tried a couple of different channels and I went back to hers the most because her voice was soothing and calm. Everyone else was a bit shrill and grating. Sucks she goes through that her effort and yours are appreciated. Anyway I can only echo the appreciation for her dedication and perseverance. She's also just extremely likeable, which makes it extra sad to hear she hasn't been spared the girl-on-internet experience. Still, at least she's gained a lot of goodwill within the SWTOR community. I occasionally join her Twitch streams and virtually everyone there has been friendly and courteous (although it could be that more undesirable content is invisibly filtered or modded out). EDIT: oh god I'm not good with computers Sombrerotron fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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Sombrerotron posted:In case you're unaware, she also has tons of fully written-out guides on her website: https://www.swtorista.com. She also streams on Twitch every work day and during those regularly teams up with anyone interested - regardless of skill or gear - for Flashpoints and Operations. Don't put a trailing . inside the url tag, it fucks with the hyperlink. But yeah, she's good people.
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Ablative posted:Don't put a trailing . inside the url tag, it fucks with the hyperlink.
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