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Larryb posted:I was referring to this post from the show’s creator: OH! I actually missed that part. That is awesome to hear! 
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amigolupus posted:They're 15. I know. I was taking the piss about that scene, and kind of taking a piss on that scene, because yeah, "ironically" showing naked-except-for-some-strategically-placed-soap-bubbles underage girls is just as lovely and kind of disturbing as doing it unironically. There's a bit of dialogue from a game called Epic Battle Fantasy 5 which is creepily appropriate to this: quote:Lance: How old are you?
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I checked out Mystery Incorporated and it's kinda fun but not quite my thing, I get the sense I'll burn through the charm of the show pretty quickly and just find it boring and repetitive; two episodes in and it's already testing my patience with the kinds of stories it can seemingly tell. That said, it's pretty great looking, getting some old school Batman vibes off the designs-- particularly Daphne, who seems to have wandered out of Darwyn Cooke's sketchbook. And some of the gags got me, particularly Fred (though I find Scooby annoying as all gently caress, sorry). But the thing I came here to post about were the colours in the second episode, which are loving wild. Some of the blocking and boarding is just great too, the sequence on the top of the van that's defined mostly by yellow strips of lighting is gorgeous stuff and really fun.
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Jan 16, 2023 15:03
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Open Source Idiom posted:it's already testing my patience with the kinds of stories it can seemingly tell. 
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Two things Mystery Incorporated is not are repetitive and predictable.
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forgot this show existed: https://twitter.com/toonsgowild/status/1614683583150723074
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huh apparently Velma's flaws are sooooo bad I didnt notice that there's a certain dog thats missing.
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Wow. That's like the Iron Man comic panel where he tells Cap Cap needs 'solid dick' but actually real.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Two things Mystery Incorporated is not are repetitive and predictable. I mean, I'm three episodes in and every story has been some variation on mysterious monsters are causing trouble, but actually it was some member of the guest cast with a ridiculous costume budget all along. I get that it's an essential part of the Scooby Doo formula, but it's pretty old to watch the exact same climax three episodes in a row. And every time there's a ridiculous Rube Goldberg machine that gets them (which is pleasurable once or twice, but will also get rapidly old I think). It's clearly going to subvert it at some point -- the opening in the museum makes that very clear -- but the show's predictable in the sense that every episode unfolds in roughly the same way, and at this point very formulaic.
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Jan 17, 2023 08:26
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Lmao Scooby Doo show follows Scooby Doo rules.
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FilthyImp posted:Lmao Open Source Idiom posted:I get that it's an essential part of the Scooby Doo formula
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Jan 17, 2023 08:47
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No, I don't think you really do
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Open Source Idiom posted:I mean, I'm three episodes in and every story has been some variation on mysterious monsters are causing trouble, but actually it was some member of the guest cast with a ridiculous costume budget all along. even if you think it's formulaic, you should still be able to enjoy it more than the average scooby doo series just based on the improved comedy and writing alone imo
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Jan 17, 2023 16:04
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Oh mate, like I'm watching the fourth episode right now and it might just be because I'm 420 -- that's code for "adult who watches children's cartoons" -- but this episode with the man crab is genuinely fun. And I'm enjoying the way the animators are clearly inspired to find weird jokes and put in fun gags and set pieces. There's not lovely 3D vehicles getting in the way of this episode either. Fred's breakdown is played kinda seriously, that's interesting.
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Animaniacs Season 3 trailer: https://youtube.com/watch?v=veeybS00v3U
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Open Source Idiom posted:Fred's breakdown is played kinda seriously, that's interesting. Fred's writing is interesting in Mystery Inc. The writers have confirmed they deliberately wrote him to be slightly on the spectrum, but they did it by just stretching out a few traits from previous depictions and it seems like for that reason (and it never being addressed in-show) most of the audience just ascribed his behaviour to cartoon exaggeration.
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Jan 17, 2023 20:09
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Fred is totally a trapper savant but I never pinged to his being on the spectrum as the reasons why he's not picking up on what Daphne gives off
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Larryb posted:Animaniacs Season 3 trailer: Huh, I was certain that was cancelled. And that season 3 won't be comming. I guess unlike itstuff it was cancelled in a reasonable way, were the rest still appears.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Huh, I was certain that was cancelled. And that season 3 won't be comming. I guess unlike itstuff it was cancelled in a reasonable way, were the rest still appears. Oh it’s still cancelled, this is just the last season (which apparently was a surprise to the staff as well) Sort of makes me wonder if that Tiny Toons reboot is still going to get off the ground at this point or if WB will take an axe to that as well Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jan 17, 2023 |
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Yeah, I thought this was another one of those cartoons where a (mostly) completed season is suddenly put into a vault on an island on an exoplanet for some reason.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Yeah, I thought this was another one of those cartoons where a (mostly) completed season is suddenly put into a vault on an island on an exoplanet for some reason. if any show could make it work canonically it's probably animaniacs
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Yo, what's the last anyone's heard about the upcoming seasons of: * Summer Camp Island (last I heard it planned on airing its final season on cartoon network?) * that new Superman animated series * Batman: Caped Crusader * the new Adventure Time show (I think it was about Fiona And Cake?) * the third season of Hilda (is that still happening?) Also what's Craig of the Creek like longterm? I started, but never got very far. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jan 18, 2023 |
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I watched the first four episodes of My Life As A Teenage Robot. It was the funniest cartoon I'd seen since Amazing World of Gumball. The first episode had a "[scary music] [scarier music] [the scariest music]" closed caption gag. I like what the color palette in these two scenes at sunset and during a fire 
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I think Mystery Inc's initially formulaic nature works because of the times that it plays with it, like in season 1 you have the episode with Vincent Van Ghoul which ends with the villain getting a job offer due to his script finally getting picked up for when he gets out of jail, with his line being "This never would have happened if it weren't for you meddling kids, THANKS!" and the episode with a vampire which has the villain unmasking herself because Daphne is about to try to stake her and she's like "JESUS what are you doing you nutcase?!" Also the running gag with the couple from the start of the giant crab episode constantly tempting fate in their episode intros and getting more and more casts and injuries as the season progresses.
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BioEnchanted posted:I think Mystery Inc's initially formulaic nature works because of the times that it plays with it Complaining about the setup elements is like saying "This Columbo guy always catches the crook wtf!". It's a conceit of the premise.
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I mean, it's fine to want a story-focused show with continuity and characters but not be a fan of the Scooby Doo format that Mystery Inc. generally plays to. When people talk about the show, they mainly talk about its overarching plot and its characterisation, so I can imagine assuming sight unseen that it breaks free of the villain of the week stuff more than it actually does. Personally I'm a huge Scooby freakazoid and loved the show a lot but some of the mid-run episodes where they're catching a goblin or whatever totally do drag. (The art's always gorgeous though. You can see the aesthetics of the show were a labour of love, there's a bunch of stuff that absolutely doesn't need to be there for the scripts to work, but looks stylish and spooky anyway.)
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At some point in late S1, Mystery Inc does start to drop some of the formula in favor of building up more of the overarching plot and the lore its created.
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Apparently the Tiny Toons reboot is still happening: https://comicbook.com/anime/news/tiny-toons-looniversity-2023-cartoon-network-hbo-max/
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The picture in the article also is interesting since it shows some returning characters, a couple of which have had redesigns. Shirley McLoon has had a redesign, Furball isn't naked, Plucky has sleeves. I actually didn't remember the Tiny Toons version of Tweety, but I did remember Tweety's Himalayan girlfriend Aooga from the Looney Tunes Around the World in 80 Days movie. And I think both might be relevant because the new design has Aooga's hair. Presumably she will be more prominent in the new show.   Kinda weird to have the Tiny Toons Coyote and Roadrunner in there with no new design aspects, since they were very minor in the old show. Also Sneezer is still a baby despite how all the characters are supposed to be older. No sign of the Foghorn Leghorn character whose main gimmick was swearing.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The picture in the article also is interesting since it shows some returning characters, a couple of which have had redesigns. hmm so how will they handle the more problematic aspects of loonly toons. the little girl has a big issue with consent
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Ups_rail posted:hmm so how will they handle the more problematic aspects of loonly toons. the little girl has a big issue with consent They can give her Pinky & The Brain again...
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What was Tweety’s Tiny Toons counterpart like anyway? I don’t remember seeing many episodes prominently featuring her
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Some wiki described her broadly as a toon version of Judy Tanuda. Sweetie Bird.
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MikeJF posted:Fred's writing is interesting in Mystery Inc. The writers have confirmed they deliberately wrote him to be slightly on the spectrum, but they did it by just stretching out a few traits from previous depictions and it seems like for that reason (and it never being addressed in-show) most of the audience just ascribed his behaviour to cartoon exaggeration. One of the better ways to handle a character like that, draw from what's already there. After all, it's not like people with those traits are new, we just learned to recognise them. When you're working with an ancient franchise with a zillion entries, it's quite easy to find something as precedent for almost anything you might wanna do.
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Yeah, like (and I swear I'm not trying to seem addicted to Rise), Rise Donnie's written as canonically autistic but even putting aside that he's always been the team smart guy you can see spectrum-like qualities in 03 and 12's versions, it's really just an extrapolation of his existing traits-ditto ADHD Mikey.
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Kind of surprising that Elmyra is in fact going to be part of this, hopefully they'll rework her to be less obnoxious than her original version, in particular hopefully they'll have her act her actual age this time around(she's supposed to be about the same vague 12 to 14 that most of the other main cast members in the original show were but for the most part she acted like a 6 year old)
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Her bit was that she didn't see the animals as people, so it'd make some kind of sense for her to act more baby-ish while dealing with them, like a lot of people do with their pets. Although Looney Tunes also has a record of doing a similar bit with a number of cartoons that were referencing Lenny from Of Mice and Men, so it gets uncomfortable to think about it anymore deeply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxrJQlSMXs
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SlothfulCobra posted:The picture in the article also is interesting since it shows some returning characters, a couple of which have had redesigns. Foghorn Leghorn got CGI surgery to look like Daniel Craig and now solves mysteries as Beniot Blanc.
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I seem to recall someone saying that the issue the writers had with Elmyra was that they couldn't come to a firm conclusion on whether she knows what she's doing (in which case she's too evil to live), or whether she doesn't know what she's doing (in which case she's too dumb to live).
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Rand Brittain posted:I seem to recall someone saying that the issue the writers had with Elmyra was that they couldn't come to a firm conclusion on whether she knows what she's doing (in which case she's too evil to live), or whether she doesn't know what she's doing (in which case she's too dumb to live). The network itself seemed weirdly attached to her for some reason though, even forcing her into Pinky & The Brain during the last run of the show (a fact the writers literally mention during the theme song) Curious if the new show will tone her down at all (I notice they’re also keeping Fifi around despite her Looney Tunes counterpart Pepe basically being retired at this point, but then again I don’t remember the Tiny Toons version being quite as extreme in regards to her affection towards the opposite sex)
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