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Sentient Data posted:Lol, did you see the X axis? It's not even in alphabetical order
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Famous heists in England: The Great Train Robbery, the Baker Street Tunnelers Famous heists in America: The Lufthansa Raid, DB Cooper Famous heists in Canada: The Maple Syrup Heist, Eggs Man E: aw gently caress it's a Beaverton article, I'm leavin this up though
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Dang he must have stolen like three dozen.
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jjack229 posted:Seven days to achieve an erection is probably more foreplay than my partner will entertain.
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Phy posted:Famous heists in England: The Great Train Robbery, the Baker Street Tunnelers The maple syrup heist is well worth looking into though It's quite real, in case it sounds like another joke
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Platystemon posted:Dang he must have stolen like three dozen. I'm itching to read about it on their law blog
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Count Roland posted:The maple syrup heist is well worth looking into though Oh absolutely. I tried to make it sound like we're provincial backwoods boobs because I thought it was funny, but they stole millions of dollars worth of syrup. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Canadian_Maple_Syrup_Heist
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:I'm itching to read about it on their law blog 
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But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
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Henchman of Santa posted:https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1616783531476123648?t=0wH_yReQh6xrQsLIhrpy1g&s=19 do you know how much it would have cost me to have a 48 inch tv back in 1972??? you kids have it better than you know!!
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Henchman of Santa posted:https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1616783531476123648?t=0wH_yReQh6xrQsLIhrpy1g&s=19 Wow, a non-buttcoin "you must be explaining it wrong, it can't be that stupid" about how he's missing the forest for the trees. Yes, he's trying to say inflation is down as long as you ignore housing, energy, food, and transportation
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Look, if you exclude small arms, landmines, artillery, IEDs, airdropped munitions, and infectious disease, war zones really aren’t all that dangerous.
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Sentient Data posted:Wow, a non-buttcoin "you must be explaining it wrong, it can't be that stupid" about how he's missing the forest for the trees. Yes, he's trying to say inflation is down as long as you ignore housing, energy, food, and transportation
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it's a dumb chart but...(all-items) inflation *is* indeed down in the US. it's been down for about 6 months. that just means that prices are going up at a slower pace (not that prices are going down, or getting to anywhere near what they were before). my favorite part is that "supercore" is a subset of core, not a superset (like, it's "even more core"). economists are the dumbest people on the planet.
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Could someone smarter & more observant than me point out what the problem with this chart is with regards to the argument? The obvious ones I can see are that we've only recorded temperatures for a much shorter timeframe so the numbers for most of the chart are approximations at best, the chart doesn't define what temperature it's supposedly showing and what it's comparing it to, and that it's presenting natural temperature variance together with human-made temperature increase as if they were equal, and while the human-made quick increase in temperature is present on the graph, it's being dwarfed by historical natural effects. Also I guess it's only assessing the claim of global temperature increase while ignoring that what we're actually dealing with is climate change, which doesn't necessarily require all-out temperature increase to be devastating via e.g. more common extreme weather conditions. But all these seem like points that a person using the chart as an argument could dismiss ("the approximations are still accurate enough for the purposes of the point", "even if the details on the chart are unclear & the human-made drastic increase is visible, it doesn't matter since there have still been times of much higher average temperature even relatively recently", "people who believe in climate change do still argue that its effects are based on increase in average temperatures"), and I feel that I'm missing some semi-obvious point that undermines the chart's utility to support the argument it's trying to make.
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Hempuli posted:Could someone smarter & more observant than me point out what the problem with this chart is with regards to the argument? They're just lying. https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/edited-graph-obscures-truth-about-global-warming/ quote:The graph is titled “Climate History Over 9,500 Years” and it appears to plot a series of temperature points from 7643 BCE to 1885 CE. Here's a better look that time scale globally: 
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:They're just lying. Ah, that explains it! Thanks a lot; it's always a bit worrying when a chart or claim appears where you kinda know that there must be some caveat or issue but can't quite figure it out yourself. (although looking at the graph now, it ending at 1885 is a pretty obvious red flag that I missed, even ignoring everything else, haha)
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Sentient Data posted:Wow, a non-buttcoin "you must be explaining it wrong, it can't be that stupid" about how he's missing the forest for the trees. Yes, he's trying to say inflation is down as long as you ignore housing, energy, food, and transportation It's not quite as dumb as it looks. There are a lot of economists and media types running around claiming that rising wages are the problem we should be focusing on to manage inflation and predicting that rising wages will drive a self-reinforcing inflation "wage-price spiral", much like what happened in the 1970s. As a result, there's a lot of noise that businesses and workers should be keeping wages down "for the good of the economy". Perhaps unsurprisingly, the people making this argument tend to be associated with the right and/or big business. The alternative explanation for all the inflation we've seen in the past 18 months is that it is largely a transitory spike driven by COVID. To take one example, global container shipping costs rose by a ridiculous factor from late 2020 through mid 2022 and have only just started to decline back to pre-COVID levels in the past 3-4 months. Krugman is making the point that if you strip out the factors of inflation that are driven by exogenous events (energy prices for example are driven almost entirely by offshore supply), the rise in prices has already peaked and is on the way down, so wage increases are fine and good. He could have articulated it a bit better, but hey, it's a twitter thread.
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manyleeks posted:It's not quite as dumb as it looks.
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So I guess the point that is trying to get across is that at no point was the spending in the US even low enough to meet the highest spending of the other countries?
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That chart is so evil it made me report a tweet for the first time in my life.
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And normalizing it to USD is a clever trick for the only country with a substantively growing real economy.
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Which one is the Axis of Evil? I know, it's both of them.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Yes it is. While core inflation is a widely used statistic, including used cars and only used cars in order to emphasize your point is stupid. Maybe not as stupid as it looks. I'm not entirely sure what the situation in the US is, but here in Australia due to the delays in shipping during COVID the order time to purchase a new car increased to multiple months, depending on the model. As a consequence, the price of most used cars increased rapidly, to the point where if you stuck out the wait and bought new, it was possible to make a small profit selling into the used market immediately on taking delivery. I'm guessing this wasn't quite as pronounced in the US (as there's still a functioning domestic auto industry), but supply-chain shortages would still have had an impact on production volumes. You can argue either way as to whether including or excluding new cars makes more sense in that context, but there's at least some justification for excluding.
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Screenshotting this just in case they suddenly discover shame.  The graph in full res:  For gently caress's sake. 
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You can make the Y axis longer, you won't run out of pixels. https://twitter.com/__cosmopolite__/status/1617297774437085185 OwlFancier has a new favorite as of 06:59 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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OwlFancier posted:You can make the Y axis longer, you won't run out of pixels. still awful lol. starts in 50B increments then jumps to 100B
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I think it was this thread that had an animated graph comparing where the respondents actually fell with the wealth percentiles of the US versus where they perceived/reported they fell. The result included a bunch of upper class people claiming they were middle class. Does anyone know what graph I am talking about? My search skills are failing me.
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Is that the one where it's "Here's what most people think wealth distribution is like, here's what they'd like to see, here's what it really like"? The difference between what people think the wealth distribution is and how it really is is startling. Everyone should see this. I think it's on YouTube, but I can't recall who did it. Robert Reich, maybe?
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MrUnderbridge posted:Is that the one where it's "Here's what most people think wealth distribution is like, here's what they'd like to see, here's what it really like"? That sounds interesting too. The one I am thinking of heading is a rectangle with dots representing the respondents. The rectangle has vertical lines to break it into percentiles (probably in decades). The dots are probably color coded based on the "actual" location and the animation has the dots moving between the "actual" and how the respondents self-identified.
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jjack229 posted:That sounds interesting too. This sounds like an Upshot interactive, or maybe a YouGov article? Something like https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/18/upshot/black-white-wealth-gap-perceptions.html Or maybe https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/06/02/how-much-money-do-you-need-earn-year-be-rich
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Is it the "everyone assumes they're middle class" gif? https://mobile.twitter.com/matschnetzer/status/1091679602265780225
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ranbo das posted:Is it the "everyone assumes they're middle class" gif? That's the one. Thanks  Edit: I see that I had the country wrong, it was Austria not the US jjack229 has a new favorite as of 16:18 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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jjack229 posted:That's the one. Thanks I'm sure there's multiple studies out there showing that it happens in the US too. For anyone who hasn't seen this sort of thing before, basically everyone estimates their place on the spectrum of wealth by comparing themselves to the people around them rather than to the whole spectrum. Since everyone tends to know and interact with people who are slightly-to-moderately richer or poorer than themselves, but not with people who are significantly so, there is a tendency to place your own dot closer to the middle than you actually are.
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