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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:lol Chicago eclipses SF and Seattle in every single metric GDP per capita: 3. SF 5. SEA 9. DC 10. NYC 15. LA ….. 34. Chicago (below Anchorage)
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Ornery and Hornery posted:GDP per capita: 1. Midland, Texas
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Ornery and Hornery posted:GDP per capita: You're using a metric that puts Bridgeport, CT ahead of Seattle. You may want to rethink this strategy.
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i used to live in chicago and its probably the only major american city i would return to to live
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and expansion in the burbs isn’t constrained politically, either. compare it to say Seattle. Seattle basically has several channels with lakes in them that were dug out by glaciers that run north south. these constrain transportation and expansion along with the cascades. additionally where there is undeveloped land king county makes it hard to develop for environmental reasons and in general encourages densification with an urban growth boundary. This pushes a fair bit of expansion out to other counties which is constrained somewhat by transportation limitations. The Chicago region doesn’t have that. really the only constraint is transportation into Chicago proper from the surrounding burbs.
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A Bakers Cousin posted:i used to live in chicago and its probably the only major american city i would return to to live I was in Hyde park for quite a while. used to be in and out of all the Chicago land scrap yards for barge draft survey at all hours.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:GDP per capita: Absolutely nobody except you, in this post, cares about that metric. The biggest metropolitan economies in the US are NYC - LA - Chicago - SF. Seattle doesn't even rate the top ten.
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lol the #1 "metro" on that list is loving Midland TX
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Bar Ran Dun posted:and expansion in the burbs isn’t constrained politically, either. um, maybe you've heard of a little lake called Lake Michigan
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Fitzy Fitz posted:um, maybe you've heard of a little lake called Lake Michigan only on the one side. I used to do draft surveys on the self unloaders and grain loading on the salties.
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Jan 19, 2023 18:03
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holy poo poo you guys get really pissy and defensive about your metro area, don’t you?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is on way outside of a detached home that you can not have some sort of association. So... we should all live in detached homes? that's insane also for cost, my dues are 420 (lol) a month if you include the bulk internet/cable - I separated that out because it's not really maintenance, but we add it for everyone because it's heavily discounted. If I wanted just the internet I have, I'd have to pay comcast 150/month. And if I wanted cable (I don't, but for the purpose of the example), It'd probably be 200-250 total. So right off the bat, I would have a whopping ~300/month or less to do ALL exterior work. Landscaping, snow removal, exterior painting, roofing, most plumbing, water, sewer, etc. etc.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:do we have any FISHTABs in this thread? that is entirely too long, just stick with FIBs though I'd still prefer them to the coasties itt
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Crusty Nutsack posted:that is entirely too long, just stick with FIBs i like the specificity of fishtab, and fib doesn't have the same mouthfeel Wraith of J.O.I. has issued a correction as of 18:41 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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FISHTAB is a new one to me. I like it.
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Paradoxish posted:You're using a metric that puts Bridgeport, CT ahead of Seattle. You may want to rethink this strategy. I will never rethink any strategy. I am an American. Chicago isn’t in the same ballpark as the other jurisdictions I listed. A Bakers Cousin posted:i used to live in chicago and its probably the only major american city i would return to to live the architecture and trains seem p cool
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Absolutely nobody except you, in this post, cares about that metric. Everyone cares about that metric. And my original point remains true: the housing conditions of chicago are not similar to the housing conditions of the other important cities in the USA
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CongoJack posted:holy poo poo you guys get really pissy and defensive about your metro area, don’t you? some folks enjoy being pissy and a bit irritable at each other. it’s relaxing.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Everyone cares about that metric. Midland, TX - America's most important international city
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I live in the 4th highest metropolitan area by GDP per capita (the most important metric) and I'm still pissy!
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Seattle feels like a fishing village that grew way too much and too quickly at that.
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I prefer to live in a metropolis where we delved too deep and too greedily.
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Paradoxish posted:Chicago is weirdly affordable and that's never made much sense to me since it's a nice city. We have some friends who fled there a few years ago precisely because they could rent for something approaching a reasonable price. Like it seems weirdly affordable even compared to nowheresville suburbs. mildly cold in winter + no real mountains nearby for skiing = almost no one with a choice wants to live within 500 miles. but thats ok, when the great lakes consortium blows up the hoover dam and that reservoir near yosemite, you'll all come squealing for the water and we will all do our best immortan joe cosplay and yes, we should all be living in detached 1200 sqft homes in places like peoria, rockford, monroe, evansville, kalamazoo, appleton etc, then working remotely. Ornery and Hornery posted:Everyone cares about that metric. out of curiosity, why do you think that is? i don't know minneapolis all that well, but isn't it similar to chicago but even more offputting to anyone afraid of a bit of ice? mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 19:05 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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External Organs posted:I prefer to live in a metropolis where we delved too deep and too greedily. I just double checked and there's literally a coal mine under my house. From 1932!
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External Organs posted:I prefer to live in a metropolis where we delved too deep and too greedily. OKC had what felt like nonstop Earthquakes for about 4 years recently because of willy-nilly wastewater injection lmao
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External Organs posted:I just double checked and there's literally a coal mine under my house. From 1932! any goblins
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Al! posted:any goblins My monitor is off
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WaryWarren posted:Seattle feels like a fishing village that grew way too much and too quickly at that. there’s a pretty large amount of not fish international trade that physically flows through Seattle and Tacoma. there is also a surprising amount of small and mid sized manufacturing occurring in non descript warehouses in the area that isn’t visible unless one interacts with it directly. it’s closest to Asia because of how great circles work and gets a lot of trade because of that.
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Seattle has always been an oversized one-industry boom town that grows, fails to solve its self-inflicted problems, then flat-lines or dies back before the next thing moves in and starts the cycle over again.
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wish i coulda stayed in seattle but it was too expensive and such a pain + costly to fly back to see my and my partner's family 2x/year..... i turned out the lights before i left tho
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mastershakeman posted:mildly cold in winter + no real mountains nearby for skiing = almost no one with a choice wants to live within 500 miles.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:there’s a pretty large amount of not fish international trade that physically flows through Seattle and Tacoma. there is also a surprising amount of small and mid sized manufacturing occurring in non descript warehouses in the area that isn’t visible unless one interacts with it directly. it’s closest to Asia because of how great circles work and gets a lot of trade because of that. I left Portland right when T6 was about to shut down in Port of Portland. so I assume now all that willamette valley agriculture is now moving via SeaTac? my spouse could get a job in Seattle since her field keeps on posting positions and it’s very, very niche however the CoL plus air pollution is going to just keep us in Michigan. probably for the best in the long term.
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personally i took ben shapiro's advice and LEFT THE CITIES and its been pretty rad so far
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This is the condo building I was talking about a few pages back - they couldn't give units in this building away a few years ago because there was litigation going on over a special assessment due to glass falling out of the windows. Now they're selling for stupid amounts for a building with sky high HoA fees for the area + ongoing litigation. idk what the gently caress.  
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there is already a whole developed city ranking system available to argue about that was not developed by goons
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euphronius posted:there is already a whole developed city ranking system available to argue about that was not developed by goons yes, seattle isn't on it
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ive lived in both portland and new york for many years ama about how insufferable i am about wbat cities are good
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pft is correct that Chicago is a big deal
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Chicago does not feature relatively prominently in America mass media so I guess it doesnt “feel” as important as it is
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sometimes i like to look at a dumb unimportant city in street view and you can find some cool stuff. did u know that indianapolis (a dumb pointless city) has a cool canal? did you know that milwaukee (worthless) has a pretty cool public natural history museum u can look at on google?
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