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Vegetable posted:I think they just did it because everyone else did and they are paranoid. In reality no one cares. Their Prius sales have been declining since 2017, enough people care that they felt like they had to do this now that they're competing with EVs.
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FilthyImp posted:Yeah, I think with the market being so diversified now all the pointing at Tesla going "it does 60 in 3.2 seconds" is kind of sad. One of the selling points of EVs is supposed to be "goes fast" to make up for some of the tradeoffs. So far it seems only Lucid and Tesla have figured out how to have go-fast and also 300+ miles of range.
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The F-150 Lightning can do both of those things, Rivian too. Edit: Ford says the Lightning does a 4.5 0-60 time but people testing it out get under 4. Nfcknblvbl fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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Also the Hummer EV
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Sorry, it's true I haven't really been looking at trucks and SUVs (because they suck and 90% of their owners don't actually need the utility)
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Sorry, it's true I haven't really been looking at trucks and SUVs (because they suck and 90% of their owners don't actually need the utility) 
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Okay. What percent of owners need 0-60 under 7 seconds
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Sorry, it's true I haven't really been looking at trucks and SUVs (because they suck and 90% of their owners don't actually need the utility) This is a car forum and most of us like having utility Edit: Oh, and the Lyriq Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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Infinotize posted:Okay. What percent of owners need 0-60 under 7 seconds
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My hybrid F-150 has a 5.3 0-60 and lots of utility. Do I use either while hauling groceries in suburban Florida traffic? No.
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0-60 is important. The Audi etron SUV feels slow. The BMW i4 does not. Separately, the Jaguar iPace SUV has wishy-washy brakes.
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Zero One posted:My hybrid F-150 has a 5.3 0-60 and lots of utility.
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Nessus posted:Suburban Florida would give you the opportunity to take advantage of Tesla's ability to serve as a small boat for short periods of time. Unfortunately gators can get in through the panel gaps.
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bird with big dick posted:Such an ignorant thing to say. Do you think Toyota just enormously upgraded the power of the Prius because the overwhelming majority of people don’t care about it? Vegetable posted:I think they just did it because everyone else did and they are paranoid. In reality no one cares. The Prius got overhauled in a lot of ways because it needed to be. It got rid of all of the terrible parts that people used to be willing to sacrifice in exchange for the efficiency. The 0-60 is now around 7 seconds, down from 10. Not exactly exciting, but passable Before, the Prius looked terrible, now it looks fine. The power used to be abysmal, now it’s fine. The driving dynamics used to be horrible, now they’re fine. The electronics/interface used to be fine, now they’re pretty good. With all of the competition from EVs and other hybrids, they needed to make it a pretty good car while keeping the efficiency.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:This is a car forum. Most of us like to go fast. 
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mobby_6kl posted:Go fast... between the charging stations? That driver's name? Albert Einstein.
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Like 0.001% of car owners know what their trap speed is.
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knox_harrington posted:Like 0.001% of car owners know what their trap speed is. I’m still pretty sure this is a joke term that only exists in this thread.
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Trap speed is an analog for highway passing power and power to weight ratio. Most people don't care what their trap speed is but a lot of people care that their car has better passing power than a 1971 VW bus.
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Saw a Rivian SUV on the highway today and it was extremely boring. Would not have even known if it hadn't been stop & go with enough time to read the name. vv I did not see the clown face. Is it different from the truck? vv Speleothing fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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You didn't see the clown face lights on the front then did you
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knox_harrington posted:Like 0.001% of car owners know what their trap speed is. Thirst trap speed.
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bird with big dick posted:Trap speed is an analog for highway passing power and power to weight ratio. Most people don't care what their trap speed is but a lot of people care that their car has better passing power than a 1971 VW bus. Literally all modern EVs have excellent passing power, which is another way of saying that their trap speed only matters to people who want to imagine themselves getting in car chases like james bond
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bird with big dick posted:Trap speed is an analog for highway passing power and power to weight ratio. Most people don't care what their trap speed is but a lot of people care that their car has better passing power than a 1971 VW bus. 
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Zero One posted:Unfortunately gators can get in through the panel gaps. Sounds like an upcharge opportunity for gator proofing.
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Rapid Gator Ingress is actually a feature that the standard, staid automakers are just too scared to innovate and implement.
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Lol this discussion again. People need a lot of passing power on the highway because they're distracted and are not planning ahead. My 10 year old 117HP hatchback performs marvelously on a 80mph highway somehow. I guess i get it, much easier to bandaid the problem by spending money instead of fixing the underlying issue.
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bird with big dick posted:a lot of people care that their car has better passing power than a 1971 VW bus. I used to drive a 1982 VW Vanagon. I'm pretty sure every car has better passing power than a 1971 VW Bus.
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Russian Bear posted:Lol this discussion again. Take 95 from Reno to Vegas and come back and say that. You will end up stuck behind a motorhome convoy doing 53 mph for six hours because there are no passing lanes and lots of hills and curves. And once you finally manage to pass the motorhome that’s doing 53 in a 70, it will pass you in the next small town because it goes through town doing 53 in a 35, so you get the pleasure of having to pass it again.
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mobby_6kl posted:Go fast... between the charging stations? This cartoon is misleading because the malaise era corvettes of that body style don’t make enough horsepower to do a burnout. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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A 60-hp Peugeot can do a burnout.
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bird with big dick posted:Take 95 from Reno to Vegas and come back and say that. You will end up stuck behind a motorhome convoy doing 53 mph for six hours because there are no passing lanes and lots of hills and curves. I won't. Neither will most people. So i guess we don't need that passing power after all.
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Didn't we just have this 0-60 argument itt earlier this month?
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Didn't we just have this 0-60 argument itt earlier this month? The thread moves so fast we've lapped you and come back to the 0-60 argument again. If only you had the passing power necessary to keep up.
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All my life's a circle; Sunrise and sundown; Moon rolls thru the nighttime; Till the daybreak comes around. All my life's a circle; But I can't tell you why; Season's spinning round again; The years keep rollin' by. It seems like I've been here before; I can't remember when; But I have this funny feeling; That we'll all be together again. No straight lines make up my life; And all my roads have bends; There's no clear-cut beginnings; And so far no dead-ends. I found you a thousand times; I guess you done the same; But then we lose each other; It's like a children's game; As I find you here again; A thought runs through my mind; Our love is like a circle; Let's go 'round one more time.
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bird with big dick's going for distance, he's going for speed. GATOS Y VATOS's all alone, all alone, in her time of need.
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Until my EV needs a wheelie control setting like the KTM Superduke it doesn't have enough power. This is true if my EV is a schoolbus btw.
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bird with big dick posted:This cartoon is misleading because the malaise era corvettes of that body style don’t make enough horsepower to do a burnout. It only says "burnout noises". It's probably a cassette tape the driver owns: "burnout noises (30m)". Dude's burning oil pretty badly though. I'm worried there might be a crack in the engine.
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Didn't we just have this 0-60 argument itt earlier this month? It's cyclical. Next items up on the agenda: * Speeding: good or bad? * Rear doors that don't open from the inside: good or bad? * Tesla: good or bad? * From the vault: blended braking: good or bad?
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....... 0-60 is fun, lots of hp is fun and I think time to move on and give this particular discussion a rest. bird with big dick posted:This cartoon is misleading because the malaise era corvettes of that body style don’t make enough horsepower to do a burnout. ......... Ummm..... no.
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