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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Beeftweeter posted:

also lmao, tell me you've never seen "The Omega Glory" without telling me you've never seen it :allears:

I sure haven't, my formal Trek watching starts at TNG

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Eej posted:

I sure haven't, my formal Trek watching starts at TNG

it's literally about a group of white people called "yangs" and a bunch of asians called "kohms". kirk dramatically recites the preamble to the us constitution

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Gaz-L posted:

Where else would you put all the New Yorkers?

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
I was thinking about this a bit and though I can't remember the name, that episode of Enterprise where the Xindi are basically vampires supposedly takes place in aughts-era Detroit. Also on Enterprise, the weird time travel Nazi episode also takes place in NYC; "Carbon Creek" isn't LA or SF, but it is in California.

e: "Carpenter Street" and "Storm Front, parts I and II" (lol)

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jan 18, 2023

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

I remember Storm Front being just ridiculous enough to work despite itself. Goofy mobsters with tommy guns fighting alien nazis! Enterprise flying over New York battling plasma-equipped German bombers! It was like that Calvin & Hobbes comic with the t-rexes in F-14s

Carpenter Street was a lot worse though, not much worked in there except maybe the drive thru scene. It's probably as dull as Star Trek time travel stories get

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
I haven't watched it in several years but I remember "Storm Front" being just so absurdly ridiculous in concept while also being completely unapologetic about it enough to work. Despite the insane premise, it surprisingly makes enough sense to be coherent, and it's certainly entertaining enough.

That doesn't make it good necessarily, but I don't remember hating it, which is more than I can say for a handful of other episodes either in Enterprise itself or just broadly throughout the franchise. It's not boring at least, which is really all I can ask for in an episode of trek imo, particularly a two-parter

The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun

Beeftweeter posted:

"Carbon Creek" isn't LA or SF, but it is in California.

Carbon Creek is set in central PA (though it was filmed outside San Bernardino, so it's a very California-looking PA)

TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS
Something something thirty mile zone.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Beeftweeter posted:

I saw this a couple years ago (and yes I hate it):




to be entirely fair it was on board a literal US Navy aircraft carrier, but still. ugh

thats tacky but is there a reason trek ships arent all painted up? should have cool murals and designs from intergalactic artists. if nothing else paint em black with some stars on it for camo.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

"My God, Spock! How did you know that ship was there?"
"It was simple, Captain. It was painted black, with white spots all over it."
"That looked like space to me."
"...did- did it r--Captain, we have the most advanced sensors in the galaxy, please stop looking out the window during battles."

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Brawnfire posted:

"My God, Spock! How did you know that ship was there?"
"It was simple, Captain. It was painted black, with white spots all over it."
"That looked like space to me."
"...did- did it r--Captain, we have the most advanced sensors in the galaxy, please stop looking out the window during battles."

I wonder if you could use holo projectors as some sort of dazzle camouflage to gently caress with enemy sensors and weapons? Like make it look like parts of the ship are turning at non-Euclidean angles and poo poo so it looks like it's moving both toward you and away from you at the same time.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

The Chairman posted:

Carbon Creek is set in central PA (though it was filmed outside San Bernardino, so it's a very California-looking PA)

:doh: that's right

Khanstant posted:

thats tacky but is there a reason trek ships arent all painted up? should have cool murals and designs from intergalactic artists. if nothing else paint em black with some stars on it for camo.

imo they just look better without it. You can kinda tell that's just a projection but at least it cycled:






which looks somewhat better than barfing Americana all over it, but I was still kinda disappointed — I wanted a pic of the huge model :argh:. iirc that's from DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations"

had to settle for this instead:



there were a bunch of other props I got pics of too, it was a pretty neat installation. I can post them if anyone's interested I guess, but not much of it is nutrek so maybe in the other thread, idk

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

nine-gear crow posted:

I wonder if you could use holo projectors as some sort of dazzle camouflage to gently caress with enemy sensors and weapons? Like make it look like parts of the ship are turning at non-Euclidean angles and poo poo so it looks like it's moving both toward you and away from you at the same time.

Isn't this just cloak but worse

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Eej posted:

Isn't this just cloak but worse

Federation Negotiator to Romulan Ambassador: "No, no, it's different"

uvar
Jul 25, 2011

Avoid breathing
radioactive dust.
College Slice
You can fake the look, but you can't hide that pesky energy signature! https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Babel_One_(episode)

(Guy who has mostly only seen Enterprise: "this is a bit like that Enterprise episode")

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
was thinking i should get an enterprise model and chop it off to jus tthe saucer bits and paint it up to make my own ultimate trek abomination, but i remembered I hate tiny-painting and there's almost certainly some free models of the enterprise I can butcher in blender easier
edit: got it

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

uvar posted:

You can fake the look, but you can't hide that pesky energy signature!

Well, the thing’s gotta have a tail pipe!

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

I noticed this while rewatching Voyager.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Guess the editor failed to take a cursory glance over the footage

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Boooo

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Terry Matalas liked both of these tweets by noted angry dipshit Robert Meyer Burnett

https://twitter.com/burnettrm/status/1616349030384308224?s=46&t=PnM6SUL5wQ94NFd0BiWJ3w

https://twitter.com/burnettrm/status/1616598537336127489?s=46&t=PnM6SUL5wQ94NFd0BiWJ3w

Generations is a masterpiece, gently caress both of y’all.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Terry Matalas liked both of these tweets by noted angry dipshit Robert Meyer Burnett

https://twitter.com/burnettrm/status/1616349030384308224?s=46&t=PnM6SUL5wQ94NFd0BiWJ3w

https://twitter.com/burnettrm/status/1616598537336127489?s=46&t=PnM6SUL5wQ94NFd0BiWJ3w

Generations is a masterpiece, gently caress both of y’all.

Is there any reason why anyone ever paid attention to this guy? I always assumed he was the Robert something something who wrote a bunch of episodes on DS9, but now that I look it up he’s not, that was Robert Hewitt Wolfe. So what’s the deal with this lunatic? Who gives a poo poo?

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
He did a bunch of the extras for the early 00s dvd releases of various shows. That and screaming about “wokeness” in Star Trek are his entire claim to fame.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Isn't he also heavily involved with Axanar?

That alone would disqualify his opinion on anything related to Star Trek.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

nine-gear crow posted:

I wonder if you could use holo projectors as some sort of dazzle camouflage to gently caress with enemy sensors and weapons? Like make it look like parts of the ship are turning at non-Euclidean angles and poo poo so it looks like it's moving both toward you and away from you at the same time.



This guy probably did that.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
I really like Generations. The soundtrack is fantastic, the D never looked so good, and I really enjoyed the captains meeting. I thought Kirk's death was very fitting.

It was also the second film I ever saw in the cinema (aged 8 - the first was Free Willy) and, as a young trekkie weirdo, seeing it on the big screen blew my mind

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
Generations is the most TNG movie, it even shits its pants in the second half just like a lot of the two parter episodes did!

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Terry Matalas liked both of these tweets by noted angry dipshit Robert Meyer Burnett

https://twitter.com/burnettrm/status/1616349030384308224?s=46&t=PnM6SUL5wQ94NFd0BiWJ3w

https://twitter.com/burnettrm/status/1616598537336127489?s=46&t=PnM6SUL5wQ94NFd0BiWJ3w

Generations is a masterpiece, gently caress both of y’all.

Matalas has been weirdly obsessed with trying to suck off RMB on Twitter to the point where, apparently, RMB has already seen all of Season 3 of Picard and has given it his Angry Anti-Woke rear end in a top hat Seal of Approval and is trying to tell all his little chudlet fans to watch it because "Star Trek is finally good now."

Which is an interesting quandary, because I'm sure they couldn't make something worse than Picard Season 2 if they actually consciously tried, and yet how awful is it going to be if it actually managed to placate Robert gently caress Meyer goddamn Burnett, Mr. "If I wrote the Bus Punk cameo for Season 2, I'd have given him a 15 minute long sub-plot of him rescuing Seven and Raffi from the LAPD with the power of money and then have stop the show in its track to explain how he became a wealthy Randian Captain of Industry because Spock neck pinched him in the 80s."

That guy thinks Star Trek Picard Season 3 is going to be cool and or good.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Big Mean Jerk posted:

He did a bunch of the extras for the early 00s dvd releases of various shows. That and screaming about “wokeness” in Star Trek are his entire claim to fame.

You're leaving out his most important qualification: he was a temporary consultant on Star Trek: The Experience At The Las Vegas Hilton, only THE most prestigious creative post in the entirety of Star Trek's nearly 70-year existence.


E: :lol:

"Wikipedia posted:

2020 Twitter controversy

Until June 2020, Burnett was a manager on the Schmoedown Entertainment Network's Movie Trivia Schmoedown show. But he was removed from this role due to one retweet and attached commentary over the shooting of retired police captain David Dorn. Appalled at a video of the former police captain laying dead on a sidewalk, Burnett angrily mused about the absence of a second amendment advocate to apply deadly force to save Dorn's life. Former Schmoedown personality Robert Butler III took offense to Burnett's commentary and retweeted Burnett's words without the accompanying video. This led to several Schmoedown fans and personalities also voicing their displeasure with Burnett's comments, including Schmoedown host and co-creator Kristian Harloff, which resulted in his release from the trivia league. Although Burnett issued an apology video on his YouTube channel and spoke with Butler privately to apologize (an apology which Butler accepted), he was not reinstated to the Movie Trivia Schmoedown.[9]

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jan 21, 2023

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

nine-gear crow posted:

Matalas has been weirdly obsessed with trying to suck off RMB on Twitter to the point where, apparently, RMB has already seen all of Season 3 of Picard and has given it his Angry Anti-Woke rear end in a top hat Seal of Approval and is trying to tell all his little chudlet fans to watch it because "Star Trek is finally good now."
So Matalas is Elon Musk and RMB is Catturd2. Got it.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Payndz posted:

So Matalas is Elon Musk and RMB is Catturd2. Got it.

Interesting :elon:

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
Generations did somethings right and a lot of things wrong and equals a perfectly average but amazing looking movie.

If what i have read about its production (which was the studio wanted something fairly quickly after TNG ending) is true than most of its problems would of been solved by letting people go through another round of scriptwriting and editing.

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
I just can't get past the mishmash of uniform types. I know why it is, but it still annoys me.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Astroman posted:

Isn't he also heavily involved with Axanar?

That alone would disqualify his opinion on anything related to Star Trek.

Yes, Burnett was basically Alec Peters' lieutenant on Axanar and often went on drunken screeds late at night about how they were taking Star Trek back from JJ the Usurper and giving it back to the fans.

Burnett also used Axanar donor funds to pay rent and credit card bills.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Mooseontheloose posted:

Generations did somethings right and a lot of things wrong and equals a perfectly average but amazing looking movie.

If what i have read about its production (which was the studio wanted something fairly quickly after TNG ending) is true than most of its problems would of been solved by letting people go through another round of scriptwriting and editing.

Ron Moore and Brannon Braga have both said that Generations was the mess it was because Paramount wanted a TNG film out in theaters within a year of the show going off the air, so they had to write All Good Things and Generations if not concurrently, then immediately back-to-back. So they had to flip a coin between which one they wanted to spend the time polishing and they picked All Good Things because that needed to be done sooner.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
I don't know who that chud is but his opinion about Generations is right. It's complete garbage.

nine-gear crow posted:

Ron Moore and Brannon Braga have both said that Generations was the mess it was because Paramount wanted a TNG film out in theaters within a year of the show going off the air, so they had to write All Good Things and Generations if not concurrently, then immediately back-to-back. So they had to flip a coin between which one they wanted to spend the time polishing and they picked All Good Things because that needed to be done sooner.

It has the problem of having every character you've watched for 7 years act like a complete idiot because they wanted to get from A-C in the script without caring much about what B looked like

Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jan 22, 2023

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Charity Porno posted:

I don't know who that chud is but his opinion about Generations is right. It's complete garbage.

:wrong:

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Picard has the ability to go anywhere in time and he chooses "5 minutes ago"
Riker lets the flagship of the Federation get taken out by an obsolete BoP
Worf doesn't insist on a full checkup of Geordi's VISOR when he's returned despite it already having been a vulnerability in the past.
Crusher puts the guy who just suffered torture, including an induced cardiac arrest back on active duty immediately.
Geordi doesn't think "hey they took my visor a while, I should check it out"
Data acts like a clown because apparently emotions = goofiness, though at least he had an excuse.

Deanna is really the only person on the entire main crew who doesn't act like a stupid dipshit just to make the plot advance. It's an awfully written movie that as a bonus, gives Kirk a terrible death.

That being said, it's the second best TNG movie, but that says much more about the poor quality of those films than its quality.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Charity Porno posted:

Riker lets the flagship of the Federation get taken out by an obsolete BoP

This was budgetary. ILM took a look at the script and said, "Look, you've got $30 million in your budget, and a huge chunk of that is already eaten up by your cast. You can have a kickass space battle, or you can have a kickass saucer crash. You can't have both."

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Mixed my threads up

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