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Al! posted:lmao kitchen islands are the worst if you actually intend to use your kitchen Why's that?
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It's a defensive fortification. The enemy tries to bust down your door you poo poo on their heads
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Jan 21, 2023 19:43
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Troutful posted:Why's that? Counter space is good, but effectively putting more distance between the sink/stove/fridge is pretty bad. You also need a lot of space on all sides, and there are so many houses out there where someone shoehorned an island in and completely ruined the kitchen's functionality because there wasn't enough space. You kind of need them in open floorplans, but that's only because open floorplans suck and require a lot of compromises. I don't think they're the worst, but they're a net negative in a lot of kitchens because most people don't have kitchens big enough to support them.
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Jan 21, 2023 19:52
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actionjackson posted:don't forget about saloon doors
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Jan 21, 2023 19:54
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any "door" sequestering the kitchen from the living space is a net good
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Jan 21, 2023 20:35
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Al! posted:lmao kitchen islands are the worst if you actually intend to use your kitchen my neighbor who otherwise tends to have good design insights felt she just had to have an island. So the island is now between the appliances and the table. Also she didn't really have enough space for it, so now the table is only about two feet from the island (you always want at least 36" of clearance). so if anyone wants to get by, the person sitting down has to get up and walk to another area first lol
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Jan 21, 2023 21:41
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i mean look at this poo poo. that island shouldn't even be there by itself, let alone stools? you can't even open the fridge without it hitting those
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Jan 21, 2023 21:45
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Al! posted:lmao kitchen islands are the worst if you actually intend to use your kitchen they work if you have a massive kitchen, but that's only if the island is not too big. The new style is massive single island and they aren't very useful unless you're building a lego city
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Jan 21, 2023 21:45
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forbes actually right about something https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/kitchen/standard-kitchen-island-size-guide/ quote:The first step in planning your kitchen island is determining the size. The minimum recommended size of an island is 2-by-4 feet. However, the island’s total area should be at most 10% of the kitchen area.
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Jan 21, 2023 21:52
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actionjackson posted:i mean look at this poo poo. that island shouldn't even be there by itself, let alone stools? you can't even open the fridge without it hitting those An island layout like this is so loving pointless. You're literally putting a massive obstacle between the fridge and the rest of the important appliances, leaving yourself no room to walk around, and you're gaining absolutely nothing. There's already a ton of usable counter space without the island. Like, why would you actually want to sit down at that island? What's the point of those stools? It arguably makes sense in a very large kitchen or an open floorplan where the island might be a reasonable place to sit down for breakfast, but why would you ever want to jam yourself into that tiny area next to the fridge when there's almost certainly somewhere better to sit down and drink a cup of coffee in the morning.
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Jan 22, 2023 00:47
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islands are another one of those things some folks just must have, but much dumber and less functional than the second bathroom.
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Jan 22, 2023 00:53
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I would simply keep my island in my second bathroom. Would probably count as a 1.5 bath by itself, if my understanding of real estate math is correct
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Jan 22, 2023 01:25
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toilet island
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Jan 22, 2023 02:29
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Bar Ran Dun posted:toilet island I had a friend in high school whose family had an RV that had a toilet in the shower Not sure why this never took off
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Jan 22, 2023 02:32
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I had a friend in high school whose family had an RV that had a toilet in the shower That's most RVs/travel trailers, for a long, long time now. When you get into 6 figure class As, they start coming separated.
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Jan 22, 2023 02:48
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what if all my counterspace is covered in crap and there's no space left for cooking? I need the island! (to put more crap on)
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Jan 22, 2023 02:58
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Homes need to be cheaper because the only solution when you've filled your kitchen with crap is to sell your house and buy one with a kitchen that you haven't yet filled with crap.
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Jan 22, 2023 03:03
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There's a housing crisis. A crisis of poor taste in interior decorating.
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Jan 22, 2023 03:14
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I like islands with the oven and stove in them, I think that's cool. I personally have a weird L shaped galley kitchen which is good for just me cooking and has decent motion economy but it feels real crowded with more than one person in there.
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Jan 22, 2023 03:52
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Paradoxish posted:An island layout like this is so loving pointless. You're literally putting a massive obstacle between the fridge and the rest of the important appliances, leaving yourself no room to walk around, and you're gaining absolutely nothing. There's already a ton of usable counter space without the island. the stools are so that you can slam your kneecaps right into the cabinet underneath when you try to scooch close enough to get to your plate.
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Jan 22, 2023 04:04
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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:the stools are so that you can slam your kneecaps right into the cabinet underneath when you try to scooch close enough to get to your plate. god i loving hate island stools so much gently caress what a dumb loving concept
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Jan 22, 2023 05:29
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you could have had a table in your kitchen but instead you chose... the way of pain
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Jan 22, 2023 05:31
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Islands are primarily gathering spaces in kitchens like that, a place to put your drinks and arrange food and not much else
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Jan 22, 2023 05:32
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Just remembered my goonish friend who inherited the house when his mother died but instead of moving out of the basement he just rents out the first floor.
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Jan 22, 2023 15:39
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what about DOUBLE ISLANDS
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Jan 22, 2023 17:14
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actionjackson posted:what about DOUBLE ISLANDS And three of those stupid looking led chandeliers
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Jan 23, 2023 22:15
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housing pls
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Jan 23, 2023 22:22
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The Oldest Man posted:And three of those stupid looking led chandeliers i don't mind linear lighting for long countertops, but why are there three little ones instead of one longer one (if you are going to do that)
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Jan 23, 2023 22:25
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PyPy posted:housing pls You can sublet an island
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Jan 23, 2023 22:42
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actionjackson posted:i don't mind linear lighting for long countertops, but why are there three little ones instead of one longer one (if you are going to do that) Because the three little ones are off-the-shelf from Amazon, while the one longer one is a custom job that would blow your flip's budget
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Jan 23, 2023 22:55
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Not a Children posted:Islands are primarily gathering spaces in kitchens like that, a place to put your drinks and arrange food and not much else The point is that it's way too small to be a gathering space, there's basically no way to use an island like that in a kitchen that size without it being crowded or awkward.
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Jan 23, 2023 22:58
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Nothus posted:Because the three little ones are off-the-shelf from Amazon, while the one longer one is a custom job that would blow your flip's budget yes tho that seems awfully big to be a flip, prob just some rich white ppl, we got plenty of those in the western suburbs
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Jan 24, 2023 04:24
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PyPy posted:housing pls You haven’t created enough value. Back into the mines with you.
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Jan 24, 2023 06:25
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MickeyFinn posted:You haven’t created enough value. Back into the mines with you. drats
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Jan 24, 2023 06:57
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capitalism and housing; two great tastes that taste great together
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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:
Yeah, rents around me have started increasing again
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Jan 24, 2023 13:41
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Rents never stopped going up around here, the standard house in this neighborhood is a 3br/1ba ~1400sf house built 1900-1930 or so and those are up over $1700/mo now. Standard pre-pandemic was maybe $1200 a month if the place was remodeled.
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Jan 24, 2023 13:50
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Rents never stopped going up around here, the standard house in this neighborhood is a 3br/1ba ~1400sf house built 1900-1930 or so and those are up over $1700/mo now. Standard pre-pandemic was maybe $1200 a month if the place was remodeled. The only time I have seen rents stop going up (not go down) was the first few months of the pandemic. About 6 months ago I saw a UC Davis law professor who was aghast that his survey found that most Californians do not believe that a sudden 10% increase in units will cause rents to drop. I’m not sure what scenario could be posted to make me think rents would go down short of executing landlords for not lowering the rent.
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Did anyone ever claim rents were going down? I thought it was just a slowing rate of increase, same as nearly every other kind of inflation other than gas prices.
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