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Lol, real convenient litmus test.
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Jan 22, 2023 01:43
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That ref is just like "nah he dead"
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kimbo305 posted:Lol, real convenient litmus test. Please don't take this as me starting poo poo I am genuinely interested to know if you can see a clear line between a brutal knock out in a sanctioned, established sport where both competitors are capable of defending themselves and white power slapping.
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Marching Powder posted:Please don't take this as me starting poo poo I am genuinely interested to know if you can see a clear line between a brutal knock out in a sanctioned, established sport where both competitors are capable of defending themselves and white power slapping. To be fair, UFC isn't a sport. e: the slap poo poo is sanctioned too by Nevada
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UFC is like watching high level Starcraft, slap fighting is like watching your 8 year old play checkers. But both with brain damage.
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Jan 22, 2023 04:38
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Fozzy The Bear posted:UFC is like watching high level Starcraft, slap fighting is like watching your 8 year old play checkers. But both with brain damage.
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Shumagorath posted:Is Anderson-Forrest Boxer's 12-Carrier Lockdown? Anderson (in his prime) was Flash 
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kimbo305 posted:What is the composition of wrestling fans in terms of awareness of and sympathy for CTE? Iow, are they more or less disdainful about slapping vs the average (yuck) mma fan? From what I remember, there was a guy in the WWE who was a former football player (I think only at a college level) and he was very big on the "Hey....concussions are not good and WWE's system/policies (at the time) are trash" and most people agreed with him. I think when it was more or less revealed that Chris Benoit had CTE and went on to murder his wife and kid wrestling fans pretty universally said "CTE is bad and should be avoided"
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Also cross posting this from the grappling thread but Fight Pass finally has new content that will be worth subscribing to for a bit.Mekchu posted:In more positive news, and will likely see try a crack at doing more of those write ups/previews because.....
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Slap fighting is dumb as hell, but I've watched Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama 20 times at least. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1iHdAQTPPY&t=44s e: what I'm trying to say is I'm a dirty degenerate, but even I won't watch slap fighting. Fozzy The Bear fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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CommonShore posted:Don't forget that Figgy was spreading social media posts inciting the Jan 8 insurrection, and that Moreno has a Mexican folk ballad about him. I wanna hear this ballad now.
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kimbo305 posted:Lol, real convenient litmus test. for the record, the 15-minute beating Lauren Murphy took bothers me an awful lot more than this did
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Mekchu posted:I wanna hear this ballad now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJLRZJRqmo
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Fozzy The Bear posted:e: what I'm trying to say is I'm a dirty degenerate, but even I won't watch slap fighting.
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Grats to DRAMAKANE for being #1 in the group. I'm not certain you are a goon and I just let some random person in. If you don't respond to this within a day or so, I'm kicking you out And Boco_T gets to rename the group  Also, grats CarlCX for not being in last
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Digital Jedi posted:Also, grats CarlCX for not being in last saved my rear end, gilbert That event was almost eight hours long and I am very tired. Jamahal Hill's improved his takedown defense an awful lot, and I'm real, real curious to see if the UFC rebooks the Anthony Smith fight, gives Blachowicz/Ankalaev another chance, or just embraces full chaos and books Johnny Walker part two or something.
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Digital Jedi posted:Also, grats CarlCX for not being in last
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Mekchu posted:From what I remember, there was a guy in the WWE who was a former football player (I think only at a college level) and he was very big on the "Hey....concussions are not good and WWE's system/policies (at the time) are trash" and most people agreed with him. Yea this was Baron Corbin, who was at least in the NFL long enough to be a part of a lawsuit against them for concussion related injuries. He was in a talent meeting challenging Joseph Maroon; the literal bad guy in the movie, "Concussion," over him basically saying CTE isn't that big a deal. Also while we're maybe a group outlier, all of us in the AEW thread(s) are pretty appalled by the slap league too & extremely sympathetic to concussions taking out our favorites for potentially months at a time. A huge star just came back from one such recovery, and there's actually a separate concussion related storyline going on right now! Tweak fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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CarlCX posted:for the record, the 15-minute beating Lauren Murphy took bothers me an awful lot more than this did also allowing shogun a fight.
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It was pretty hosed they threw poo poo at Brandon Moreno but he seemed pretty geeked still. My man had more heat than the nWo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCFfVhx4PRw lmao
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Marching Powder posted:Please don't take this as me starting poo poo I am genuinely interested to know if you can see a clear line between a brutal knock out in a sanctioned, established sport where both competitors are capable of defending themselves and white power slapping. I don't. For one thing, Fozzy The Bear posted:e: the slap poo poo is sanctioned too by Nevada in this age, absolutely no one will stop you from legally ruining yourself. As I said earlier, MMA's an established sport because there's enough bloodlust to support it. To me, the line is not that clear. CarlCX posted:for the record, the 15-minute beating Lauren Murphy took bothers me an awful lot more than this did Absolutely. Getting concussed is bad for your brain, but the training you have to do to get to a high level in a combat sport means you take a lot of hits to the head. And the accumulation over years is likely more dangerous for you than, say, a one hit KO. Getting caught with a punch out of nowhere doesn't have the same ethical burden on the corner when a fighter is getting rocked from bell to bell. It's a two tier failure between the corner and the ref to let any overwhelmed fighter keep going. Comebacks are great and obviously a huge part of sports in general, but it's totally fine to have fewer of them for the sake of protecting the fighters more. Glover should also have been pulled before the end. He had self awareness about it post-fight, but just not the mentality to actually quit himself.
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Yeah fair enough. Don't get me wrong, I think you're insane, but at least I understand where we disagree.
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kimbo305 posted:in this age, absolutely no one will stop you from legally ruining yourself. As I said earlier, MMA's an established sport because there's enough bloodlust to support it. Can't speak for the person who initially said that the slap league stuff makes them feel physically ill, but for me the difference context makes in a subjective response like that is gonna be pretty varied. Like, watching footage from a warzone in which somebody is seen to be shot in a firefight and falls is going to produce a different emotional response to watching somebody executed by firing squad. The damage is identical for argument's sake, but the context is quite plainly not. The line isn't clear ethically, like how much risk is acceptable for entertainment or sporting purposes, but I think the line for how an individual reacts is only ever going to be clear to that person. I got a buddy who can watch all kinds of gruesome stuff as long as nobody's head gets chopped off. As soon as somebody is beheaded he gets super grossed out and uncomfortable. He recognizes it isn't proportional or sensible, but it is what it is. But I also think your point is a fair one that if you have a strong emotional reaction to the damage being done in one context, it is worthwhile to re-examine your position on a similar amount of damage being done in another context. One interesting thing I remember a pro wrestler saying in an interview (I think it was Steve Austin): he said his body is all hosed up from being a wrestler, but that he has buddies who are in flooring, and their knees are ruined from spending so much of their lives down on their knees putting in linoleum. From his perspective he got a better deal as he made a lot more money and did something much more fun and fulfilling for him, and while it had a physical toll, so would a lot of the alternatives for him. I don't really agree with that exactly, but it's worth remembering that a lot of fighters probably would. Many of them come from working class backgrounds and may have found themselves in laboring jobs if not for MMA. They run the math and consider that they would rather their body be put at risk doing something like fighting rather than slowly grinding it down for wages.
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they could definitely find someone else that is a domestic abuser and will also gently caress over fighters at every opportunity
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Orange Carlisle posted:they could definitely find someone else that is a domestic abuser and will also gently caress over fighters at every opportunity They could easily just pick someone from the Dana sycophants/fans defending ANY coverage saying "don't hit your wife after you aggressively grab her while you're drunk." Their booking/promotion knowledge would basically be the same as Dana's at this point.
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That's hot.
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Digital Jedi posted:Grats to DRAMAKANE for being #1 in the group. Hi if it was Spaced God that's me 
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WE GOTTA MOVE SOME TICKETS, THAW THE BOY https://twitter.com/sinow/status/1617524528363585536
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Mekchu posted:From what I remember, there was a guy in the WWE who was a former football player (I think only at a college level) and he was very big on the "Hey....concussions are not good and WWE's system/policies (at the time) are trash" and most people agreed with him. I think as a whole, wrestling fans are probably the most aware of concussions compared to other sports because with Benoit and the immediate reaction, it wasn't just people thinking "yeah, maybe unprotected head shots aren't good". Even the people that on!y care for blood and don't care about safety were forced to care because there was a real threat of wrestling not existing any more if things didn't change.
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Lucasar posted:One interesting thing I remember a pro wrestler saying in an interview (I think it was Steve Austin): he said his body is all hosed up from being a wrestler, but that he has buddies who are in flooring, and their knees are ruined from spending so much of their lives down on their knees putting in linoleum. From his perspective he got a better deal as he made a lot more money and did something much more fun and fulfilling for him, and while it had a physical toll, so would a lot of the alternatives for him. I don't really agree with that exactly, but it's worth remembering that a lot of fighters probably would. Many of them come from working class backgrounds and may have found themselves in laboring jobs if not for MMA. They run the math and consider that they would rather their body be put at risk doing something like fighting rather than slowly grinding it down for wages. I understand the rationale (and tragedy) of trading your bodily condition / health for money, but CTE is a different case for me. It's super scary to be precipice of painkiller addiction for when your joints are destroyed, but it's another to have your personality and ability to think erode around inside your head.
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I'm going to put the in-line Tape Delay Kickboxing posts in the kickboxing thread so go ahead and bookmark that and we'll try to get it to live again. But I will still post a link to the blog version in here. Tape Delay Kickboxing 7: Bigbang 44 - 2023-01-22 The first installment of 2023 features the minor league at Korakuen, two title fights, and an exhibition between two guys with a 50kg weight difference! No spoilers, free on Youtube! https://bocot.substack.com/p/tape-delay-kickboxing-7-bigbang-44
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I'm 38 and my body is completely destroyed from a lifetime in the restaurant industry BUT I probably don't have a degenerative brain disease so I kinda see both sides. e: posting on a dead VB forum has left me way more functional than getting into social media COPE 27 fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jan 24, 2023 |
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posting on SA has made me less able to function in public than any accumulated head trauma
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