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Brut posted:Eh Asanoyama will either be in a top Juryo slot or a near bottom Makuuchi slot, pretty mundane either way. This is most likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if WMH or Kotonowaka also got a bump. Daiesho had an amazing performance this basho, but I don't see them skipping him over komusubi with how stacked the sanyaku currently is. Chiyomaru is likely dropping to juryo. Tochi was mentioned dropping earlier this basho when he went kyujo. Tsurugisho as well? What a weird basho. Three hair pulls. I think I've seen one or two in makuuchi since I started watching last January.
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Does Takayasu have a kabu? I’m just wondering out loud what he does as he gets older and progressively more broken.
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Not the way I wanted Hoshoryu to get KK but I'll take it. Wakatakakage quietly putting together 9-6 this tournament when I would have sworn he was 7-8. I guess his losses just stick with me more because I love the guy. I think Takakeisho gets the rope because they are desperate for a Japanese yokozuna and his wins this tournament, especially the final match, had that yokozuna feel to them.
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some kinda jackal posted:Does Takayasu have a kabu? I’m just wondering out loud what he does as he gets older and progressively more broken. The only current guy with a kabu other than Chiyootori is Endo. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Kabu.aspx But he's got his 3 year Ozeki grace period and he should be in good shape since he's bff with Ichimon chosen one Kisenosato.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Not the way I wanted Hoshoryu to get KK but I'll take it. not the way he wanted either, judging by his expression.
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first hair pull i went "dq that guy" rather than being sorry for the guy who did it as i didn't feel it was intentional or affected the match
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Great matches! I wanted my guy Kotoshoho to win, but great job to Takakeisho who's in everyone's stable.
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Did they change the rules for Mattas? I just realized that I haven't seen the Gyoji stop a match in like 3 bashos. There used to be 2-4ish mattas per basho, but now nothin' and some pretty shady starts. Frankly, I don't mind though. I think it really helps with the match flow and mattas were super annoying because most of the time both sides were clearly ready but someones fist was a half mm above the clay.
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Different gyoji have different tolerances for how down hands have to be, and cheating the tachi-ai by not fully dropping the hand that's facing away from them is a time-honored tradition at this point. Goeido's entire career was built off the back of being able to do that to consistently charge hard and blast people out.
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TIL pewdiepie is pretty much retired from gaming, lives in Japan, and mainly does vlogs now. Here's an interesting little glimpse of Day 13 from his perspective.
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Pretty sure I remember seeing a few mattas this basho, particularly this weird Enho matta that resulted in the exact same thing happening after.
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I don't think they change the Matta rules, but they do decide to enforce them harder every once in awhile. Like they let it go until everyone gets sloppy/too obvious about it and then start calling it a bunch to get people to stop it and reset expectations. Then when people are behaving again, they let people do what they do because they don't really want to call stuff and the cycle restarts.
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https://twitter.com/TheSumoSoul/status/1617361100751929345
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Imagine if keisho gets the rope and immediately goes kyujo.
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Nativity In Black posted:Imagine if keisho gets the rope and immediately goes kyujo.
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Marching Powder posted:[banging cutlery on table] give him the rope! give him the rope!
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Keisho has a neck?
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Keisho has a neck? Fun fact: all mammals, from the tiniest pygmy marmoset to the giraffe, have the same number of cervical (neck) vertebrae. It's just in Keisho's case they're wafer-thin due to lack of space. And therefore lamentably vulnerable to injury.
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 Basho Results This was the biggest fantasy field we've ever had, and it was a great basho for it. Luckily there weren't any kyujo for week two, so I didn't have to deal with that while I myself was kyujo dealing with my infrastructure issues. In my opinion Takakeisho made a strong argument for the belt: not only did he take the yusho after a playoff runner-up, but he had several wins with techniques that weren't just pushing or thrusting results – two kotenage, and a sukuinage to win on day 15. He's had immaculate ring presence, and honestly has fought as well as anyone can be expected to, so if he doesn't get the nod I'll consider it a slight. Besides that the san-yaku mostly struggled, with Wakatakakage and Hoshoryu failing to make ozeki moves, while Kotonowaka barely scraped a kachi-koshi. Kiribayama had an excellent tournament, but no one right now is on any sort of ozeki run – arguably a 14-1 or a zensho-yusho could earn it for (in order of viability) Hoshoryu, Kiribayama, or Wakamotoharu, but it's a tough argument and I'm not confident. Daieisho will return to san'yaku next tournament riding on a 10-5, but he'll need to really put up numbers to be in the conversation, and then only for September at the earliest. Alright, enough bloviating, let's get to fantasy: Final Results Makuuchi code:code:Down in juryo Robviously prevailed, again on the back of Kotoshoho and Endo. I hope the Sadogatake man can keep performing after this basho! Special shout out to bartolimu who held onto Takayasu at the expense of 8 points and ilmucche who kept Tochinoshin at the expense of 5 or 6, and to all the late entrants who still showed up to fight without much shot at the cup – you've all shown the sumo spirit in spades, and are a fine example to future fantasy players. On to special prizes! A refresher, these are the special prizes: Gino-sho/Technique: No make-koshi on your team. Kanto-sho/Fighting Spirit: Exceptional performance from a low rank, or other acknowledgement of great performance. Shukun-sho/Outstanding Performance: Getting the highest number of accolades (i.e. kinboshi, yusho/jun-yusho, and sansho) in the field. So, who are the awardees? Gino-sho: Khizan, scripterror, Tiny Bug Child, do it on my face, Samuel L. Hacksaw Kanto-sho: Samuel L. Hacksaw Shukun-sho: Khizan, Tiny Bug Child Congratulations to all the winners this basho, and to everyone else I offer the sincere wish that you might ganbatte kudasai, and study the sumo spirit and the history of our fantasy elders. I think Takakeisho should get the rope.
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Thank you for organizing this Kenning, it was really fun! I really fell off on the second half, mostly due to Hoshoryu's injury, but all in all a good showing. Something I noticed this basho is that the matchups during the basho seem a bit unfair. For example, I felt a bit sorry for Sadanoumi, he is M4 and through the first 10 matches or so he had to fight people above his rank with good scores, while he had a lot of losses (at a point he was 2-8). On the other hand, Kotonosho and Onosho were given easier matchups (even relative to their ranks), even when they had very positive scores. Seems to me that Sadanoumi was thrown to the wolves.
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Thanks again kenning! Dropping back to juryo is the price I'll happily pay for not trading tochinoshin
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Kenning posted:I think Takakeisho should get the rope. I agree. He demonstrated remarkable depth in this basho. I don't think the YDC is necessarily convinced and will probably insist on another strong performance in March, though.
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Thanks for running this, it’s always a ton of fun. Average Lettuce posted:Something I noticed this basho is that the matchups during the basho seem a bit unfair. For example, I felt a bit sorry for Sadanoumi, he is M4 and through the first 10 matches or so he had to fight people above his rank with good scores, while he had a lot of losses (at a point he was 2-8). On the other hand, Kotonosho and Onosho were given easier matchups (even relative to their ranks), even when they had very positive scores. Seems to me that Sadanoumi was thrown to the wolves. The upper maegashira ranks are meatgrinders, because they pad out the sanyaku schedules. Figure there’s one ozeki and eight junior sanyaku right now. They’ll all fight each other under normal circumstances, with some exceptions, but that still means that they all need seven or so other matches to fill out their schedules. Those matches come from the upper maegashira, generally, so it’s pretty common for rikishi to hits those ranks and bounce back down. When you get down to it, M4 is one of the top 15-20 rikishi. They’re going to have to fight the best opponents because they’re supposed to be one of the best themselves. Khizan fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Khizan posted:The upper maegashira ranks are meatgrinders, because they pad out the sanyaku schedules. Figure there’s one ozeki and eight junior sanyaku right now. They’ll all fight each other under normal circumstances, with some exceptions, but that still means that they all need seven or so other matches to fill out their schedules. Those matches come from the upper maegashira, generally, so it’s pretty common for rikishi to hits those ranks and bounce back down. Makes sense, but it still felt for me that him in particular was getting tougher matchups than those around his ranking.
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Yes, now I do wonder what happens to two week old squid and some other foodstuffs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAgwppuRqsw
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Thank you for organising and counting the scores, Kenning! I imagined myself having a slightly better score than last basho, but I will take my bottom ranking with some satisfaction that I was here for it!
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Thank you Kenning for a superb job as always. Is it March yet?
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Ugh, I wish.
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Thank you for running fantasy sumo again Kenning! You definitely deserve a fighting spirit prize for persisting through all the power problems.
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Thank you, as always, for running this Kenning and for spreading the world of Sumo near and far! Can't wait until March.
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I just wanted to say thank you to all my fans for the support and my plan is to keep showing my brand of fantasy sumo in the future. Thanks Kenning!
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Thanks Kenning! Fantasy was an absolute blast as always.
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this is all very subjective obv but if takekeisho obtained the same exact results due to a depleted uppe card but was still an ultra one dimensional guy who you just had to outlast the initial onslaught from before he tired i wouldn't feel he quite deserved it. he seems far more "complete" now tho
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https://twitter.com/InsideSportJP/status/1617468219392131072 No rope for the Hamster.
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I now understand the perspective of Shonanzakura. When the points come so rarely, they are all the sweeter when they do.
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