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Battle idea: sorta like a competitive public Attraction, Something players visit at some point in the turn and have some way to commit/wager resources, maybe exile x cards hand or from top of library or something, and then that specific battle has conditions, comparing whatever was wagered/committed to determine winners who win that Battle and cause whatever effect to happen. Variant, Battle is played "at" a Land and the battle's are over that land in some way, but that seems more color specific and maybe too limited in design spaceSilhouette posted:Norn's faction is literally called the Machine Orthodoxy she's a friggin bonehead. phyrexians definitely aren't machines except in the way human beings and any normal animal is a machine, except they have some metal involved. if they're machines, are they reprogrammable can someone toggle the evil variables?
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It's the White in her, it's not just that Phyrexians have some machine elements but that they SHOULD be A Machine, United In A Single Purpose, That Purpose Being Her Vision Of Phyrexia.
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Khanstant posted:Battle idea: sorta like a competitive public Attraction, Something players visit at some point in the turn and have some way to commit/wager resources, maybe exile x cards hand or from top of library or something, and then that specific battle has conditions, comparing whatever was wagered/committed to determine winners who win that Battle and cause whatever effect to happen. Variant, Battle is played "at" a Land and the battle's are over that land in some way, but that seems more color specific and maybe too limited in design space I mean, the whole point of the Yawgmoth approach to medicine was "body is actually a machine", he was called "father of the machines", transformation into a Phyrexian involve slowly replacing your whole body with machine-like replacements until your soul is lost, their religion is wholly absent of spirituality and only flesh and metal exist for them...
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Jan 23, 2023 10:08
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YggdrasilTM posted:I mean, the whole point of the Yawgmoth approach to medicine was "body is actually a machine", he was called "father of the machines", transformation into a Phyrexian involve slowly replacing your whole body with machine-like replacements until your soul is lost, their religion is wholly absent of spirituality and only flesh and metal exist for them... in a sci-fi setting they'd be a self-replicating evangelizing swarm, and the only way to combat them is either starvation or changing their programming I assume the latter will metaphorically happen here
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Jan 23, 2023 10:37
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Khanstant posted:phyrexians definitely aren't machines lol sure dude
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https://twitter.com/yoman_5/status/1617504106964451329 It's very funny that we're getting poo poo like this after the level of creature I've been second picking in DOM Remastered......
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YggdrasilTM posted:I mean, the whole point of the Yawgmoth approach to medicine was "body is actually a machine", he was called "father of the machines", transformation into a Phyrexian involve slowly replacing your whole body with machine-like replacements until your soul is lost, their religion is wholly absent of spirituality and only flesh and metal exist for them... Yes and all of this is extremely human/animal. Phyrexians have some metal in their bodies but they're still living beings, they still have senses of irony and humour, they can still be petty, they still have personalities and desires, they do stuff for fun, they have goals and ambitions, it's just a horrifying way to live as a freaky cyborg as part of a really ineffective collective swarm. The game and lore will use the word machine and is likely what the impending March refers to, but I still wouldn't call them machines unless I was being poetic in the way any organic body is a machine. They aren't toasters.
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Khanstant posted:Yes and all of this is extremely human/animal. Phyrexians have some metal in their bodies but they're still living beings, they still have senses of irony and humour, they can still be petty, they still have personalities and desires, they do stuff for fun, they have goals and ambitions, it's just a horrifying way to live as a freaky cyborg as part of a really ineffective collective swarm. The game and lore will use the word machine and is likely what the impending March refers to, but I still wouldn't call them machines unless I was being poetic in the way any organic body is a machine. They aren't toasters. My dude I think you just use a different definition and this isn't a problem Also you are a machine of meat and blood, a flesh automoton, and it's merely the idealism of your eelectrified jelly that you are anything more meaningful.
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Khanstant posted:Yes and all of this is extremely human/animal. Phyrexians have some metal in their bodies but they're still living beings, they still have senses of irony and humour, they can still be petty, they still have personalities and desires, they do stuff for fun, they have goals and ambitions, it's just a horrifying way to live as a freaky cyborg as part of a really ineffective collective swarm. The game and lore will use the word machine and is likely what the impending March refers to, but I still wouldn't call them machines unless I was being poetic in the way any organic body is a machine. They aren't toasters. phyrexians literally don't regenerate without intervention (this was a plot point in the books about xantcha)
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A big flaming stink posted:phyrexians literally don't regenerate without intervention (this was a plot point in the books about xantcha) intervention is paying {1} and tapping it.
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I'm assuming battling is just going to be playing War. An enchantment variant where any new battle overwrites the prior battle (from any player) and each turn you "battle" by revealing the top card of each player's library with the highest CMC winning and getting some benefits. Cards go to bottom of your library.
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Arcturas posted:I'm assuming battling is just going to be playing War. An enchantment variant where any new battle overwrites the prior battle (from any player) and each turn you "battle" by revealing the top card of each player's library with the highest CMC winning and getting some benefits. Cards go to bottom of your library. They did that mechanic ages ago, it was called "clash." Only difference was that it wasn't a new card type.
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  Phyrexian Champion WWWW Creature - Phyrexian Horror - Mythic Flying If damage would be dealt to ~ , prevent that damage. When damage is prevented this way, ~ deals that much damage to any other target. 5/5 YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Jan 23, 2023 18:14
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People are gonna think the WWWW guy is amazing when in reality he sucks.
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 Yeah I don't see many use cases for it right now. Mono-white vs Mono-Red matchup? This thing... is hosed up. Superfriends has to be a deck. Casting a Walker with one in play puts counters on them all, with one getting +2. And then this thing isn't legendary so you can get a second one out and get really crazy.
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Even if that WWWW creature seems kinda eh I hope we're getting a cycle to compliment Obliterator's reprinting.
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Vindicator in a WR commander deck is a fun blasphemous act pair
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whydirt posted:Mind sharing your lists? Sure Modern: Deck: Pauper Inside Out Combo Creatures: 2x Memnite 2x Ornithopter 2x Giver of Runes 4x Esper Sentinel 4x Stoneforge Mystic 4x Puresteel Paladin 1x Kor Outfitter 1x Invisible Stalker 1x Gingerbrute (21) Enchantments: 4x Sigarda's Aid (4) Instants: 2x Spell pierce 2x Blacksmith's Skill (4) Artifacts: 4x Colossus Hammer 1x Shadowspear 1x Nettlecyst 1x Kaldra Compleat 2x Springleaf Drum (9) Land: 4x Urza's saga 4x Plains 4x Flooded Strand 2x Hallowed Fountain 2x Seachrome Coast 3x Inkmoth Nexus 2x Marsh Flats 1x Arid Mesa (22) (60) Sideboard: 2x March of Otherworldly Light 2x Path to Exile 3x Sanctifier en-Vec 2x Spell pierce 1x Blacksmith's Skill 2x Lavinia, Azorius Renegade 1x Pithing Needle 1x Relic of Progenitus 1x Manriki-Gusari (15) Pauper: Modern UW Hammer 19 LANDS 4 Ash Barrens 4 Evolving Wilds 9 Snow-Covered Island 2 Snow-Covered Plains 8 CREATURES 4 Squadron Hawk 4 Tireless Tribe 30 INSTANTS and SORC. 1 Alchemist's Retrieval 1 Blacksmith's Skill 4 Brainstorm 4 Circular Logic 2 Dispel 1 Dizzy Spell 2 Impulse 4 Inside Out 4 Ponder 4 Preordain 1 Shadow Rift 2 Whiteout 3 ARTIFACT 3 Wedding Invitation SIDEBOARD 4 Blue Elemental Blast 2 Dispel 1 Gigadrowse 2 Piracy Charm 2 Prismatic Strands 2 Standard Bearer 2 Blacksmith’s Skill
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mcmagic posted:People are gonna think the WWWW guy is amazing when in reality he sucks. It definitely doesn't suck. A 4 drop creature doesn't have to end the game the moment its cast. It also dodges an entire color's pie worth of removal. I can see it never seeing play because its hard to cast and decks that can cast this easily probably don't want it.
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Sickening posted:It definitely doesn't suck. A 4 drop creature doesn't have to end the game the moment its cast. It also dodges an entire color's pie worth of removal. It's not even close to as good as the 4 drops mono white is playing now though? Maybe it's a SB card in that deck vs Mono red.
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Well drat, I wonder how WPN Secret Lairs will work. 
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Extremely cool to make an Infect Secret Lair years after the deck died due to power creep, definitely need to get an unreadable blighted agent 
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mcmagic posted:It's not even close to as good as the 4 drops mono white is playing now though? Maybe it's a SB card in that deck vs Mono red. I can't agree with this statement. I feel like you are comparing cards that aren't very much alike in purpose. Its a 5/5 flyer that is always going to run over everything in combat. Does a deck currently need this? Calling it poo poo seems absurd.
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Mono-white's current 4 drops are Serra Paragon and Wandering Emperor. Phyrexian Vindicator isn't an advantage engine like them. So much of Standard's removal is just kill spells, with only Abrade and Brotherhood's End for damage-based removal. I don't think the present bodes well for it.
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The fact that mono-red can basically never beat that means it’s at least likely to have a home in standard
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Are there a good number of ways to give vigilance in Standard? Obviously a four drop with Defender sucks but it's a pretty combat deterrent.
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TheKingofSprings posted:The fact that mono-red can basically never beat that means it’s at least likely to have a home in standard Will mono-red even be a deck? We're already getting Obliterator as well, so that makes 2 creatures that basically end the game immediately if they resolve against mono-red, we'd have to get some ABSOLUTELY INSANE red cards for people to even try.
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TheKingofSprings posted:The fact that mono-red can basically never beat that means it’s at least likely to have a home in standard Mono red sucks in sandard right now also, they can kill it for 5 and 2 for 1 themsveles or take 5 but that will likely not matter if they are going to kill you already. it's way worse than obliterator against red.
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mcmagic posted:Mono red sucks in sandard right now also, they can kill it for 5 and 2 for 1 themsveles or take 5 but that will likely not matter if they are going to kill you already. it's way worse than obliterator against red. They can't kill it. Everybody Is talking about red, but green only way to remove this are plummet effects YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/707260642788327424/hi-mark-i-saw-that-theres-an-affinity-for Could've guessed with the one affinity (for equipment) card in the set, but affinity is deciduous now so they can use it more frequently when they feel like it makes sense on a card
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Sickening posted:It definitely doesn't suck. A 4 drop creature doesn't have to end the game the moment its cast. It also dodges an entire color's pie worth of removal. Yeah the main issue with it is that it isn't a Soldier When soldiers rotate I'm sure whatever mono white deck is left will want it
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Now is the time for Call in a Professional to shine. ^^^^ Almost all the soldier support will rotate the same time that this does.
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That thing will be such a beating in limited.
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Wittgen posted:That thing will be such a beating in limited. You have to draft it like it's a 7 drop in limited. (it's still fine but i don't think it's like a glorybringer type bomb)
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I got it a feeling it's going to be in prerelease pool but not have any other white supporting pieces.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:My dude I think you just use a different definition and this isn't a problem in that case March of the Machines will refer to a cadre of swole bodybuilders who all either go by the moniker "the machine" or are otherwise referred to as machines (and also sometimes beasts) who all shhow up to humiiliate phyrexians in a multiversal strongman competition, loser packs it all in and heads for timeout plane
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I don't know what kind of deck would want it but I want to find something that will use this thing. 3 drop narset in older formats or commander that can proliferate or somethin.
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If they are going to push this poo poo and encourage Solitaire-style play patterns where I need to watch my opponent jerk themselves off on the other side of the table for several minutes at a time, please bring back Land Destruction and serious Discard because this is a way worse feelbad to the opponent than those
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