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Absolutely shocked that Frank Lampard's football brand of 'have no plan for 80 minutes, then panic and just play route 1 for the rest of the game' turned out to not be sustainable in the long run.
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I know the allure of the former England star is irresistible but surely that's the end of Lampard's managerial career
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vyelkin posted:I know the allure of the former England star is irresistible but surely that's the end of Lampard's managerial career lol lol
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vyelkin posted:I know the allure of the former England star is irresistible but surely that's the end of Lampard's managerial career Would you rather he was a pundit?!?!
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the sex ghost posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/NicholasGuyatt/status/1617520376761954304?cxt=HHwWgMDRnc6Ny_IsAAAA Frankie vs The Unhappy Chairman
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BBC says he's gone
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The return of Roberto Di Matteo, Champions League winning manager
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Jan 23, 2023 21:46
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Lol apparently Moshiri has been talking to Bielsa
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still lolling that supah fwank made it through september
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Jan 23, 2023 23:39
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At least his friends in the media haven't deserted him https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1617592667604680704
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Mickolution posted:At least his friends in the media haven't deserted him ah yes, the inevitable "this manager who fails at every club just keeps coincidentally picking the worst clubs to manage" gambit
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Jan 24, 2023 14:18
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Multiple jobs for manager who proves you don't need to win football matches to be a winner but he is a winner
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vyelkin posted:ah yes, the inevitable "this manager who fails at every club just keeps coincidentally picking the worst clubs to manage" gambit It's the one case where it is sort of true, but it doesn't change the fact that Lampard has zero examples of being a good manager.
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Mickolution posted:At least his friends in the media haven't deserted him Look, what's the man supposed to do - he got the only thing he had the power to change wrong and he gets fired for it? How is he supposed to motivate the players and do good tactics?
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It will be interesting to see if another manager could string together wins with Everton's squad. There are talented players at the club, but they're also a bunch of misfits who flopped at bigger clubs or were big fish in small ponds. I don't think Bielsa does anything with that squad other than drive out players who have already been through a lovely situation, but from an Everton supporter's perspective that might be welcome. Looking at their squad reminded me that they had to loan out both Dele Alli (playing in Turkey) and Moise Kean (back at Juventus) lol
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Said it in the prem thread but don't think bielsa is the guy to keep them up. He's God, and he was responsible for the best football I've seen at elland road since the champions league days, but it only worked at Leeds because he was given a blank slate to do whatever the gently caress he wanted in terms of coaching staff, training setups, players, the lot. He got a full preseason to get the players fit enough to do the bielsa thing and I don't think Everton the way they are now are in any shape to just go from day one. Unless they've thrown in the towel and written off this season planning to let bielsa clear out the shite and smash the championship but that feels unlikely. Dyche would be the best option imo if you just need someone to grind out the rest of the season, Rooney would probably keep them up if they had players who cared as much about everton as he did but don't think any of these guys are arsed what happens
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Lampard seemed to have a good attitude and an honesty but really he just wasnt anywhere near good enough as a manager. I think he really needs to do what Arteta has done and spend some time working under a better manager before he tries again. Feels like hes struggled to separate himself from being 'one of the players' to being 'the guy in charge'. As for who takes over us now, I wouldve loved Bielsa before, but its probably the completely wrong time for him. He wouldn't work well with our daft club structure or our dogshit players. He's the sort of guy I think you need to give full control over the transfers and a good pre-season to bed the players in. He also doesnt seem the type to put up with any bullshit, and thats all we are capable of serving up at the minute. Rooney can gently caress right off, no thank you. Ferguson or Baines have both been talked about but I dont think either have the experience needed, also dont want the ship going down with them at the helm... neither deserve to go through that. Dyche I guess as we need someone to grind out results somehow. Its either him or the return of the bovril goblin.  But I wonder who would even come at this point.
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If Moshiri was a smart owner they would have had a shortlist of people they wanted to bring in if Lampard continued to lose, probably before or during the World Cup with feelers sent out, but something tells me that Moshiri isn't a very smart owner
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McFlurry Fan #1 posted:Look, what's the man supposed to do - he got the only thing he had the power to change wrong and he gets fired for it? How is he supposed to motivate the players and do good tactics? who could have predicted a striker who played in the league over 100 times for brighton scoring 1/4 of the time wasn't the best use of money
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Presumably Pickford is going to have to transfer out if he wants to be the England first-choice keeper
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Pope should have started at the World Cup anyway
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Gene Ricman posted:..or the return of the bovril goblin. Didn’t know you’d managed Everton before. *lampard voice* No but seriously I’m sad for you
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the sex ghost posted:Said it in the prem thread but don't think bielsa is the guy to keep them up. He's God, and he was responsible for the best football I've seen at elland road since the champions league days, but it only worked at Leeds because he was given a blank slate to do whatever the gently caress he wanted in terms of coaching staff, training setups, players, the lot. He got a full preseason to get the players fit enough to do the bielsa thing and I don't think Everton the way they are now are in any shape to just go from day one. Unless they've thrown in the towel and written off this season planning to let bielsa clear out the shite and smash the championship but that feels unlikely. It would probably end a bit like Solskjær's interim period at Man Utd did. He took over a Mourinho team that had been very poor on fitness training and asked them to play with a much higher intensity. It worked extremely well for a few months and then the players started disintegrating and it all collapsed. The counter argument to that is that "working very well for a couple of months" might be enough to save you from relegation, though.
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Get the worms ready for the welcoming party https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1618900694081347587
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"Sean Dyche set to land Everton job after Bielsa proposed working with U21s until summer" lmao, Bielsa owns.
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Eric the Mauve posted:I assume he meant he just wanted to play the U21 team in Premier League matches No, apparently he wanted to run the u21s until the summer while his staff took care of the senior team. I assume this is because he thinks relegation is unavoidable and he wants to chuck everyone out and mould some kids. https://theathletic.com/4130935/2023/01/27/marcelo-bielsa-everton/ quote:Marcelo Bielsa wanted to take charge of Everton’s Under-21s until the summer — with his staff taking charge of the first team.
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TheRat posted:No, apparently he wanted to run the u21s until the summer while his staff took care of the senior team. I assume this is because he thinks relegation is unavoidable and he wants to chuck everyone out and mould some kids. If everton were serious about long term recovery they would have absolutely taken him up on that offer. Maybe dyche will get them back in contention for the everton cup, at most, but Bielsa would have transformed them, had them destroying the championship and from there who knows.
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It's motherfucking Dyche time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtD0z-MSmGg
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