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armpit_enjoyer posted:https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1618247681666875392 I can't wait for a whole new generation to discover that Goleneye is actually really bad but nobody realized it at the time because they had never played a good console shooter.
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Infinitum posted:Dead Space sucks cause it has scary monsters in it, and I'm a big baby is it Dead Space or Dead Space 2 where you have to get into a machine that stabs your eyes?
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Gripweed posted:is it Dead Space or Dead Space 2 where you have to get into a machine that stabs your eyes? 2 There's a whole self-eye-stabbing minigame and a lovely little cutscene of your face getting mangled if you gently caress it up
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Gripweed posted:is it Dead Space or Dead Space 2 where you have to get into a machine that stabs your eyes? dead space 2, and it's a real bastard of a minigame to boot
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Barry Convex posted:so Hogwarts Legacy apparently lets you kill people with impunity? The developers believe they have a responsibility to not judge people who choose to be evil? Why?
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Gripweed posted:The developers believe they have a responsibility to not judge people who choose to be evil? Why? they're working with J.K. Rowling
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https://twitter.com/masksofpower/status/1618290403291332610?s=20&t=w99rkLQ8FFRkwHRUjbE3WA Hell yeah Bionicles
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Gripweed posted:The developers believe they have a responsibility to not judge people who choose to be evil? Why? maybe because theyre making a video game
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Oxxidation posted:all those peevish blokes with their muggle jokes
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Gripweed posted:The developers believe they have a responsibility to not judge people who choose to be evil? Why? Being evil is loving badass
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Feels Villeneuve posted:maybe because theyre making a video game How does that confer a responsibility to not be anti-evil?
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i dont think you have a responsibility to make some kind of moral statement in your game just because you can kill random NPCs
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exquisite tea posted:Goldeneye rules, sorry haters. Everyone loves Goldeneye tho 
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Vermain posted:my favorite DSR change is definitely the fact that they turned isaac from a crewcut mid 2000s space marine into the dweebiest looking motherfucker this side of saturn, which is what a far future space engineer should look like anyways  This is what he looked like in DS1 original
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i dont think you have a responsibility to make some kind of moral statement in your game just because you can kill random NPCs Sure, but why would you have a moral responsibility to not make a moral statement? That's what's weird. They aren't like, "hey we made a sandbox where players can do whatever" which is common or normal, but instead they're "we gave you options to explicitly become evil, there are buttons in the game that make your character undeniably and unforgivably evil, and we felt a moral responsibility that, having given the character that option, we at no point let the player feel like they made a bad or morally dubious choice when they chose to literally become evil"
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Gripweed posted:Sure, but why would you have a moral responsibility to not make a moral statement? So the empire story lines shouldn't have existed in the star wars mmo?
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its a fantasy world with explicit light/dark alignments OP. i think it's normal in that context that the game shouldn't present that and then go "by the way we want it to be clear that we personally think the bad guys are wrong, morally"
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Infinitum posted:Everyone loves Goldeneye tho id rather play perfect dark
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TheWorldsaStage posted:So the empire story lines shouldn't have existed in the star wars mmo? I don't know I never played the star wars mmo. Feels Villeneuve posted:its a fantasy world with explicit light/dark alignments OP. i think it's normal in that context that the game shouldn't present that and then go "by the way we want it to be clear that we personally think the bad guys are wrong, morally" But why is that ideal?
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why does it have to be "ideal"? it sounds like the game reacts to you doing good boy/bad boy stuff but doesn't have an explicit morality system. i don't think that's a weird setup at all, and it's not like morality systems don't introduce their own set of problems its just a certain way of implementing this kind of thing in gameplay, it sounds like.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:its a fantasy world with explicit light/dark alignments OP. i think it's normal in that context that the game shouldn't present that and then go "by the way we want it to be clear that we personally think the bad guys are wrong, morally"
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oh I meant I thought the setting had like, in-universe "evil"/"dark" as a faction like fantasy settings commonly do but i read like one of the books ever
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Devs: The game's not going to tut-tut you for the role you want to play People: But the morality! Volte posted:I took their statement to mean there are no explicit light/dark alignments. That is to say you can play a goody two-shoes who occasionally conjurs forbidden magic to commit murder, and nothing about your playthrough will change. Which to me basically means "we couldn't get the alignment system working in time so we took it out and made up some poo poo about how it would impede the player's almighty choices". It really is this
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Yeah the way it sounds to me is that students around you will pull a face and go "Woah, that was really evil!" and then continue as usual. If there's more to it than that, they're really bad at selling it.
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Sakurazuka posted:
oh yeah, i think i'm too used to DS2 isaac where he's looking way meatier
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he flunked out of the Sony game protagonist auditions
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Feels Villeneuve posted:why does it have to be "ideal"? it sounds like the game reacts to you doing good boy/bad boy stuff but doesn't have an explicit morality system. i don't think that's a weird setup at all, and it's not like morality systems don't introduce their own set of problems I’m not talking about a morality system, read the original quote. This is about the developers giving the players to be explicitly evil, not “dark side” or whatever but ontologically evil, but also not wanting the player to feel morally judged for their choice. That’s weird morally and incoherent thematically.
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Gripweed posted:I’m not talking about a morality system, read the original quote. This is about the developers giving the players to be explicitly evil, not “dark side” or whatever but ontologically evil, but also not wanting the player to feel morally judged for their choice. That’s weird morally and incoherent thematically.
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i loving love everything on this stupid company website  what if miiverse was a tablet  what if life had chromatic aberration The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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I feel like I'm looking at someone's college project about free speech
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Feels Villeneuve posted:oh I meant I thought the setting had like, in-universe "evil"/"dark" as a faction like fantasy settings commonly do but i read like one of the books ever I'm so confused by this discussion. Isn't the whole point of Harry Potter that there are good wizards who are centrist middle class followers of the rules, and then there are the evil wizards who are extremely posh and/or extremely working class (who are subservient to the posh ones), and the evil wizards do murder, which is bad. There are zero shades of grey in that book. Like in the context of that franchise it's weird that you can do open world style murders but with no consequences. Just take the murder out of the game.
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The 7th Guest posted:i loving love everything on this stupid company website Hello! I'm CRoQY.
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Buschmaki posted:Being evil is loving badass i think being a lone beacon of good in a world full of evil is way more badass TheWorldsaStage posted:So the empire story lines shouldn't have existed in the star wars mmo? the star wars mmo was good because it let you still be a good guy even on the empire side, and it always confused the hell out of the npcs especially being a light side sith warrior, it was very much a "we will show them our peaceful ways, BY FORCE" thing that amused me greatly
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