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I can’t really get a read on how/if JSA wants to approach marking themselves to foreign audiences. Their partnership with the NHK is a given and it looks like NHK is the one issuing strikes which I guess makes sense because the NHK has no vested interest in a market they don’t sell to. Crappy highlights show aside, I suppose. I don’t think the JSA can do much about NHK’s position so I can’t decipher whether the JSA is just stuck with the broadcast partners they have or whether they actually want to start changing things up and making it more available outside Japan. Based on the evidence to date (mainly inaction, to be fair), they don’t really seem to be actively pursuing any foreign broadcast partners, only domestic (NHK, Abema); Whether that’s because of existing obligations (contractually can’t solicit foreign broadcast) or they’re just not interested is something I can’t put my finger on. Could also be that there isn’t the logistics to provide footage to foreign carriers — I presume all the cameras and equipment for broadcast are NHK owned, and as previously stated, NHK don’t really have anything to gain from being obligated to provide their footage, short of $$$ which may not be there for a sport that is probably not popular enough abroad. In my mind I’m sure if someone threw $$$ at the JSA and NHK they’d reconsider, but whoever that is would probably not recoup their costs in viewer revenue. The fact they instituted Sumo Prime Time gives me some hope that they’re seeing foreign interest but whether that means foreign distribution is actually on their road map.. who knows. I would pay real dollars to just legally get NHK broadcasts of the salaried ranks, if that were possible. I don’t WANT to jump through hoops to watch it. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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I feel like the best bet overall is somehow getting Abema to offer an international paid product, they have the infrastructure, it's all technically already set up and functional, they just need to agree to take my money.
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Brut posted:I feel like the best bet overall is somehow getting Abema to offer an international paid product, they have the infrastructure, it's all technically already set up and functional, they just need to agree to take my money. The problem is Abema looks low rent compared to the NHK English feed. It's washed out, too much information noise, and static. No cinematography, no English. The NHK feed is so much superior and its genuinely painful how hard it is to get a hold of.
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if you took a shot for every weird zoom on an abema broadcast you'd be dead in the ground before the end of day 1
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Lid posted:The problem is Abema looks low rent compared to the NHK English feed. It's washed out, too much information noise, and static. No cinematography, no English. The NHK feed is so much superior and its genuinely painful how hard it is to get a hold of. That's cuz you're seeing bad rebroadcasts at like 540p or whatever, go find a working Japanese VPN and look at the actual Abema feed. You can get an NHK feed with IPTV services, but they don't support switching over to the English broadcast unfortunately. Brut fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jan 25, 2023 |
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Khizan posted:The talk about kyujo protection and such has got me thinking about the sumo ranking system in general, and really I'm not sure that the problem right now is weakness at the top of the banzuke. I partly agree, but then for example Wakatakakage keeps throwing away losses to low ranked rikishi. The opportunities has certainly been there, but the consistency hasn't.
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Brut posted:That's cuz you're seeing bad rebroadcasts at like 540p or whatever, go find a working Japanese VPN and look at the actual Abema feed. NHK Plus IPTV has the english feed, but you have to jump through some wild rear end hoops to get access to NHK Plus, and even then it'll only be good for one month before they nuke the account.
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Lol conversations like this remind me of the old days of mma. Or kickboxing ever.
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Oh snap I finally got an autograph sumo card from the main set
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Marching Powder posted:Lol conversations like this remind me of the old days of mma. Or kickboxing ever.
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Shiroc posted:Oh snap I finally got an autograph sumo card from the main set Yo this is super sick. I'm tipping that kid to do great things.
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some kinda jackal posted:Crappy highlights show aside, I suppose. what's wrong with the highlights, other than being withheld for 24hr so you have to watch it on live TV? if i could just watch last night's matches whenever i want, i would be happy with that.
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Liquid Communism posted:Wish this was unexpected. AFAIK, the sole English-language NHK licensee that carries the full tournament is in the UK, and has been going hyper aggro the last two basho against streams. They were harassing mbovo last time, kept showing up in his stream to spam telling people to go pay for their service if they want sumo, apparently unable to grasp that they're talking to a bunch of mostly US and Australia people who couldn't if they wanted to. who is the licensee? is there really no way to watch this, even with a VPN in the UK?
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NHK World show highlights in the UK and is available on Virgin Media, I don't know if it is available on any other platform. They also air a longer broadcast live on the first and last day. I just watch it live elsewhere.
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Dead Goon posted:NHK World show highlights in the UK and is available on Virgin Media, I don't know if it is available on any other platform. NHK on Virgin was how I got into sumo, I watch streams and YouTubes and stuff now but being able to record each days highlights was a huge boost at the start, plus sumopedia and their other specials. I'm definitely anti whoever that was that shut down Jason too, I'm not sure what they could offer that outdoes NHK World in the first place but loving with an OG of making the sport accessible to a western audience is enough for me to never pay them.
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Dead Goon posted:NHK World show highlights in the UK and is available on Virgin Media, I don't know if it is available on any other platform. There's a free NHK app on Roku that does the same, although I'm in the US so I don't know if it works in the UK.
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Erhh, is this not available in the UK? https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/
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Shiroc posted:Oh snap I finally got an autograph sumo card from the main set I was able to get Oho in this set which I was pretty happy about!
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Nice. Oho is also the sound you make when you pull an Oho autograph card. I've been buying 1 box of each set as they come out since 2020 and was beginning to think I'd never get one.
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Dead Goon posted:NHK World show highlights in the UK and is available on Virgin Media, I don't know if it is available on any other platform. NHK World has a free internet stream. You can watch sumo right here: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/live/ Well, okay, you can't watch it NOW, you can watch NHK Newsline, followed by "Fisherman Face Land Development: Penang, Malaysia." But the general point stands.
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Log082 posted:"Fisherman Face Land Development: Penang, Malaysia." Having just returned from a trip to Malaysia, the amount of deforestation is depressing.
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Log082 posted:NHK World has a free internet stream. That's the channel that only shows the last hour of Sumo and only on Sundays.
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It's the typical issue of "If the official offerings weren't such garbage, people wouldn't bother with pirating."
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If you are in Japan with access to Japanese television how difficult is it to watch sumo?
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Lid posted:If you are in Japan with access to Japanese television how difficult is it to watch sumo? it's on nhk
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Lid posted:If you are in Japan with access to Japanese television how difficult is it to watch sumo? You cant
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Lid posted:If you are in Japan with access to Japanese television how difficult is it to watch sumo? The YDC personally come round and slap the TV remote out of your hand.
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Lid posted:If you are in Japan with access to Japanese television how difficult is it to watch sumo? You just turn the TV on. verbal enema posted:You cant I think you misread what you're replying to. e: verbal enema posted:I was just being an rear end 
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I was just being an rear end
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Brut posted:That's the channel that only shows the last hour of Sumo and only on Sundays. That's only partially true? They do a highlights broadcast of (mostly) the upper division with English commentary, but they do it every day of the basho. They also do a live broadcast of the last couple hours of last day or two of the basho as well. They don't show the lower ranks, which is a shame, but if you need a sumo fix and everything keeps taking down NHK will at least get you Makuuchi.
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Helianthus Annuus posted:what's wrong with the highlights, other than being withheld for 24hr so you have to watch it on live TV? I say crappy only compared to the YouTube options but I agree it was a little unfair. I got my start in Sumo by watching the highlights and if I didn't know other options existed I would probably think it was just fine. My shortlist of peeves with the highlights show in a vacuum is that it's not on demand, and it's delayed. In the context of the other options available on youtube are that I just prefer not hearing/understanding the commentary of the NHK raw broadcast (the english commentary on highlights just doesn't do it for me), but I'm like that about most sports -- I'd rather hear no commentary and just be left to my own devices to think about what I'm seeing, and the fact that it's in Japanese helps. I'll understand bits and pieces of it in my (very) broken pre-elementary Japanese comprehension, but for the most part I can tune it out. The amount of work that Natto does to collect/present stats and information I think makes it impossible to argue in good faith that it's not a technically better product for a Sumo fan than what NHK will give you, so at this point I just compare every official or non-official offering to that. If the NHK packaged up Grand Sumo Highlights and ran it on YouTube immediately after the tournament day concluded I think that I'd be mostly placated. I'm just set up for needing to be in front of my TV at a certain time to catch the highlights show. It's been a while since I watched it though, so I don't remember if they actually only play it at certain times, if it is on-demand-but-delayed, or always has been that way. This is one of those things where I naively say something like "well if I ran NHK I would just pluck Natto and slap him a salary to do the international broadcast" like I'm undisputed king of Japanese media or something. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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some kinda jackal posted:My shortlist of peeves with the highlights show in a vacuum is that it's not on demand, and it's delayed.
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Yep I stand corrected. Then maybe it was just the fact that it was delayed that got me to move. Honestly it’s been so long since I used the highlights that I barely remember the experience so take whatI say with a grain of salt. E: Oh ok yeah, no I’m remembering the problem now. When I was still waiting on NHK I was on my AppleTV and there was an NHK World app, but I think it was difficult to navigate and hard to find the on-demand stuff. Now that I’m on a Chromecast I don’t even have an NHK app I can load from their app store, and I’m not terribly interested in watching on my Mac or iPad so that’s another strike. But that’s against NHK in general, not the highlight specifically. So I guess my complaint then comes down to accessibility. Anyway, I’ve talked it to death. Preference is strongly to watch one of the alternatives on YouTube since that’s easy, or at least some way that involves me flopping down on the couch to watch fat men wrestle on a big screen 
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some kinda jackal posted:or at least some way that involves me flopping down on the couch to watch fat men wrestle on a big screen e: John Gunning on Takakeisho's promotion prospects, depaywalled: https://archive.ph/hY4h0 Hirayuki fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jan 27, 2023 |
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Watching legally is annoying enough that I ignore even attempting it and just watch pirate streams. Its fun to watch live and comment with other people the odd night i can afford to stay up til 3am. Its not a real basho unless you've done the stream banned time to find the new channel dance at least once.
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The guest of honor has arrived at Hakuho's retirement ceremony https://twitter.com/41JaP68ADY5E1bL/status/1619162937335382016?t=AzlhuW6asmcaDpZb4Gc1Tg&s=19
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some kinda jackal posted:Yep I stand corrected. Then maybe it was just the fact that it was delayed that got me to move. Honestly it’s been so long since I used the highlights that I barely remember the experience so take whatI say with a grain of salt. Eh, flip to fullscreen and cast to your TV.
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I had my first ever sumo dream. I dreamed I was a sumo wrestler, and I was quite a bit bigger than I really am. I was wandering around a big tournament venue in my white mawashi, asking people for directions to the toilet. I found the bathroom eventually and woke up. Found out I didn't really needed to go, then I fell asleep again.
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I had a dream earlier this week where the JSA held a Grand Sumo event at the MGM Grand in Vegas, and I hung out with a really dapper dressed Kaisei as we wandered to the arena.
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