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Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Basebf555 posted:

Strange Days is good isn't it? I feel like I remember hearing good things about it.

It showed up on HBO recently, in the past I'd had a hard time finding it on any of the major streaming services.

It's worth watching as a time capsule at least. There's a couple of things that have aged really poorly.

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TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
Strange Days is great, albeit something of a tough watch.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

magiccarpet posted:

Jumped on Physical 100 as well yesterday. Everyone is so nice.

But yes the fast forward button is very helpful.

It...makes me...want to do cross fit :negative:

The Menu on Hulu was fine, the first big turn is certainly surprising.

I'm just starting Community on Netflix, the description says one episode of season 2 is unavailable, what happened?

vv ouch vv

Inspector Hound fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 26, 2023

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Blackface gag or similar.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
You can find it online pretty easily, it's basically a terrible character dressing as a drow for a D&D game and includes the other characters pointing out that it is racist.

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



Unfortunately it’s one of the best episodes of Community. I don’t recall there being some outcry to remove it, maybe I’m wrong.

There’s a later episode that’s still up where a character is in actual brownface, instead of “darkblueface”.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

TychoCelchuuu posted:

Strange Days is great, albeit something of a tough watch.

It must have been in development for a while or an old rear end script or something, I remember seeing it in the theater (1995?) and it's supposed to take place at the eve of the millennium and I was like, there's no way this is what the world is like 4 years from now.

Pretty good overall though. Some intense and disturbing stuff

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

There was no particular outcry against Chang painting himself blue/black as a Drow (I would imagine also because the punchline to the joke was "you shouldn't do something that could be construed as blackface, because people will find it offensive"), but in the summer of 2020, Netflix and other services rushed to remove any instances of blackface (30 Rock and Scrubs both had multiple episodes pulled from streaming, and those jokes were far less clever).

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

ohhh yeah didn't jenna do blackface in an ep of 30 rock?

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
There were multiple blackface jokes in 30 rock.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Jenna multiple times, and John Hamm!

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

For some reason in the early 2000s white comedians thought it was super funny to do blackface jokes. It happened a surprising amount.

Then in the middle of the BLM movement as well as related things like a long overdue conversation about confederate flags and monuments and a bunch of notable politicians being revealed to have also previously worn blackface as a hilarious joke we as a society said “uh, maybe blackface isn’t funny?”

Now the proper response to this would have probably been a serious conversation with people like Tina Fey Michael Schur, and Dan Harmon about WHY this happened and why it took a national outrage at racism and murders of black people to reconsider the possible weight of these jokes. Like there’s a joke in Community where Britta says something like “I can excuse racism but I can’t excuse X” and she’s called out on that. And that’s obviously an awareness of the issue but then like… there it is. But I’m sure these powerful white creators didn’t want to have to deal with this stuff and distributors just dealt with it as easily as they could by removing blackface scenes/episodes. And that isn’t the best response but then again maybe it closed the book on “blackface is funny” and the only real victim is the nerd who has to do a quick internet search for their favorite episode.

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

Context is pretty important, but that would require someone make a decision that they could be held responsible for, so it's much easier to just issue a blanket ban.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
30 Rock was explicitly mocking the fact that NBC used to air Amos and Andy, it wasn't just "blackface funny" though I can understand them getting rid of that.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

All the jokes were some form of “blackface is bad, uh oh” but like doing the bad thing for a laugh and lampshading it is pretty much in the “ironic racism” realm imo. So why a lot of white writers decided it was cool to do and worth the laugh is the tough conversation everyone wanted to avoid.

And I mean considering the mess Harmon’s current show is in or his other issues and Feys other questionable humor it’s probably not even that isolated a problem in a macro sense in terms of privileged writers not considering the weight of their edgey jokes.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

STAC Goat posted:

All the jokes were some form of “blackface is bad, uh oh” but like doing the bad thing for a laugh and lampshading it is pretty much in the “ironic racism” realm imo. So why a lot of white writers decided it was cool to do and worth the laugh is the tough conversation everyone wanted to avoid.

And I mean considering the mess Harmon’s current show is in or his other issues and Feys other questionable humor it’s probably not even that isolated a problem in a macro sense in terms of privileged writers not considering the weight of their edgey jokes.


Do you think Trading Places should be delisted from all markets and removed from all streaming services?
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Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

STAC Goat posted:

and Feys other questionable humor

:raise:

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Krakowski plays a Lakota character on Kimmy Schmidt.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

When did Community start making Britta funny? I think that's when the show peaked

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Shageletic posted:

When did Community start making Britta funny? I think that's when the show peaked

The "I have to go. I just won a contest for being hot," line followed by her getting shot down seemed like when they figured her out.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


It always sunny blackface was used because the gang is awful horrible people.
The peeps that make it seem OK with it being pulled

Times change, we figure out what divides us and remove those barriers

The future is progress and you can choose to be a part of it or be forgotten

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

live with fruit posted:

Krakowski plays a Lakota character on Kimmy Schmidt.

The crime being a white woman has a Native American backstory?

Sorry Tina, it’s jail time.

Deadite
Aug 30, 2003

A fat guy, a watermelon, and a stack of magazines?
Family.
The episode of Community they chose to remove was odd because in season 4 there is an episode where Pierce paints his hands as racist puppets. I'm not sure how they decided Chang pretending to be an elf was worse than the old racist character being racist.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Deadite posted:

The episode of Community they chose to remove was odd because in season 4 there is an episode where Pierce paints his hands as racist puppets. I'm not sure how they decided Chang pretending to be an elf was worse than the old racist character being racist.

A lot of Pierce's character felt like an excuse to make offensive jokes.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Upsidads posted:

Times change, we figure out what divides us and remove those barriers

The future is progress and you can choose to be a part of it or be forgotten

Sad to say, you're going to be forgotten either way. And 30 years on the Internet has shown me that today's progressives are tomorrow's backwards fossils.

But the thing that's bothering me here is how you're framing a unilateral corporate rear end-covering/censorship move as some sort of enlightened dialogue that we all agreed on. Gross.

I still want to hear from a pro-censorship person: should we delete Trading Places? This seems like it would be a slam dunk to me. Landis is beyond a doubt a racist - a few years prior he wrote and directed Kentucky Fried Movie which has a scene where a white character shouts a very offensive racial slur at a group of African Americans - and Trading Places not only features blackface played totally for laughs, with no condemnation, but also that aforementioned slur. If this is the stuff dividing us, shouldn't it be removed for everyone's safety?

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Deadite posted:

The episode of Community they chose to remove was odd because in season 4 there is an episode where Pierce paints his hands as racist puppets. I'm not sure how they decided Chang pretending to be an elf was worse than the old racist character being racist.

The dipshits zeroed in completely on "blackface". Nothing more, nothing less. Someone got mad at a blackface joke specifically so all blackface had to be erased. Always Sunny drops N bombs and those are still there. It was just blackface or anything that could in bad faith be considered blackface.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Pull up, thread

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1618693187522146307

And they are dancing, the board floor slamming under the jackboots and the fiddlers grinning hideously over their canted pieces. Towering over them all is Homer and he is naked dancing, his small feet lively and quick and now in doubletime and bowing to the ladies, huge and pale and hairless, like an enormous infant. He never sleeps, he says. He says he’ll never die. He bows to the fiddlers and sashays backwards and throws back his head and laughs deep in his throat and he is a great favorite, Homer. He wafts his hat and the lunar dome of his skull passes palely under the lamps and he swings about and takes possession of one of the fiddles and he pirouettes and makes a pass, two passes, dancing and fiddling at once. His feet are light and nimble. He never sleeps. He says that he will never die. He dances in light and in shadow and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, Homer. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I enjoy putting on the simpsons on Hulu since it's just whatever the newest seasons are and it's usually entertaining or interesting just in the way rubbernecking at a car crash is. Get high and just gawk, even better when subjecting a friend or SO to it. Oh wow Patty and Selma ASMR? Homer Simpson said NFT?? Bart took a selfie?! Marge's voice!?! Marge's voice?!?!?!? I'm dying with laughter!!!!!!! Its weird because I'm sure the writers aren't all 70 years old but it feels like they are.
The sad thing is Hulu is littered with the corpses of all of Fox's other "new" shots at "adult animation" from the last 15 years and as bad as the zombie simpsons is and has been forever, most of those shows are actually worse.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Sad to say, you're going to be forgotten either way. And 30 years on the Internet has shown me that today's progressives are tomorrow's backwards fossils.

But the thing that's bothering me here is how you're framing a unilateral corporate rear end-covering/censorship move as some sort of enlightened dialogue that we all agreed on. Gross.

I still want to hear from a pro-censorship person: should we delete Trading Places? This seems like it would be a slam dunk to me. Landis is beyond a doubt a racist - a few years prior he wrote and directed Kentucky Fried Movie which has a scene where a white character shouts a very offensive racial slur at a group of African Americans - and Trading Places not only features blackface played totally for laughs, with no condemnation, but also that aforementioned slur. If this is the stuff dividing us, shouldn't it be removed for everyone's safety?

Dont claim poo poo I didn't say. Please
People deciding to stop showing content because its offensive due to changing tastes is good. Your wish to hear someone delete Trading Places is a weird wish.
We don't need racist comedy where the joke is the disenfranchised unless the joke is to bring light to an injustice. More Mel Brookes, not D. W. Griffith
Just stop.
I'm stopping

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


https://www.arrow-player.com/
Add my voice to singing some of the praises of Arrow
On one hand its got a poo poo interface and every single thing they have newer than 2000 has been terrible
On the other its got Gold
I recommend Boxers Omen -Its 80s Shaw Brothers dark horror gonzo stuff.
Its Riki Oh level of ambitious and disgusting

Also has Spooky Warfare which is drat fun

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Disney Plus removed an episode of Bluey because the dad says they let him keep his balls when he got neutered.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Yeah Arrow Player is great. It's got the horror of Shudder but with a lot of other great genres and variety. Fun digging around in there. Lotta really good foreign films. Quite a few brilliant King Hu films on there that only really ever stream there or Criterion, and some absolutely fantastic cult films like Legend of the Stardust Brothers which everyone on the planet really oughta see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqdJF0o9LPg

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Punkin Spunkin posted:

Yeah Arrow Player is great. It's got the horror of Shudder but with a lot of other great genres and variety. Fun digging around in there. Lotta really good foreign films. Quite a few brilliant King Hu films on there that only really ever stream there or Criterion, and some absolutely fantastic cult films like Legend of the Stardust Brothers which everyone on the planet really oughta see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqdJF0o9LPg

NEVER HEARD OF NOW HAVE TO SEE

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:

Inspector Hound posted:

Disney Plus removed an episode of Bluey because the dad says they let him keep his balls when he got neutered.

lol, continues to be one of the most watchable kid shows

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Bel Air is really dumb but I can’t stop watching it.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Lazy_Liberal posted:

lol, continues to be one of the most watchable kid shows

Oh, Jesus, the episode where Bandit chokes down the terrible food the kids made for Chilli's "date" with him cracks me up every single time.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!
I watched season 1 of Truth Be Told on Apple + this week based on a recommendation from a friend. It stars Octavia Spencer and Aaron Paul about a true crime podcaster whose journalism gets a 16 year old boy tried as an adult for murder. 20 years later, he's still in prison, and she realizes she got it all wrong, and starts a new podcast to try and get him set free.

It's fine. I might continue with it, but there's nothing groundbreaking about it, and it never really becomes genuinely good TV. I feel like I could have watched this same show on Lifetime to be honest when it had a moment 8 years ago trying to do peak TV. It kind of goes with my whole impression that while Apple+ is throwing a ton of money to get big name stars for their shows, very few of their shows are actually any good.

Nihonniboku fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jan 27, 2023

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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Inspector Hound posted:

Disney Plus removed an episode of Bluey because the dad says they let him keep his balls when he got neutered.

Nah they changed a joke in one scene in a way that actually kind of becomes a better "screw the audience" type joke.

The original version has a character telling the dad "yeah, it was in and out, and I even got to keep em" with the implication that he was talking about getting neutered, then later the dad's saying his wife wants to keep her options open "but do we really want more of these things running around" before his kid runs into him. In the Disney version when it cuts back he's talking about getting teeth pulled.

There was an episode that wasn't released in America at first because it's entirely about farting, and that was dumb but I guess at least they eventually decided it was okay to put that one up too.

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