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Mokotow posted:I’d love Poland to switch to Euro but it’s a big country with a lot of olds stuck in the “our currency=independence!!!!” mindset. Having said that, I live in Poland but I’m paid directly in EUR, which means I benefit from the ever weakening PLN and all those anti-EUR idiots even though I really don’t want to. I keep thinking that our economy would not support Euro, the weakening PLN and beneficial conversion rate help to maintain our status as cheap labor for the rest of EU, the backbone of our world 
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After seeing what happened to Greece (and the southern economies in general), any country that's not on the Euro and relies on being able to tweak their exchange rate would have to be absolutely insane to adopt it.
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Doctor Malaver posted:I'm excited about it and so far I've heard of only one racist incident, in 2021. As someone born and raised in Canada, seeing this change happen during my occasional visits to see family in Poland was really nice. Made me feel more at home (and also appear more "cultured" to the more open-minded members of my family that I was probably the only person who was totally game for almost any "foreign" restaurant).
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Jan 17, 2023 16:04
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We had Vietnamese for like 30 years by now. And probably a bit less of that we had the best cultural transplant food: kebab.
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It's so nice to have some actual snow during the winter. Let's just hope that we don't get it mid-May or something weird like that again.
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Jan 19, 2023 11:33
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TearsOfPirates posted:It's so nice to have some actual snow during the winter. I hope I get at least once midsummer snow in my lifetime, for that snow grilling experience.
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Jan 19, 2023 13:31
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Can't you just have one of those parties in December? We used to do them in foul weather, and it was just a matter of picking one person responsible for keeping the heat under the grill going and rotating food. Nowadays I have LPG grill, so it's even less of an issue. The bonus of those is you can keep vodka chilled by having it outside.
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Jan 19, 2023 13:49
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alex314 posted:Can't you just have one of those parties in December? We used to do them in foul weather, and it was just a matter of picking one person responsible for keeping the heat under the grill going and rotating food. Funnily enough, it often rains in my hometown part of the country around Midsummer, so I’ve spent half of my teenage years grilling in lumber storage sheds and similarly safe circumstances lol. Doing a shashlik party in December would be something new for me though - half of the experience is eating it outside while random farm animals are lounging around.
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Jan 19, 2023 14:10
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Cool interview with a former FSIN employee who has fled Russia. https://zona.media/article/2023/01/19/karetnikova
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Osmosisch posted:After seeing what happened to Greece (and the southern economies in general), any country that's not on the Euro and relies on being able to tweak their exchange rate would have to be absolutely insane to adopt it. Eastern Europe in general is usually fairly low-debt and export-intensive. Not being on euro mostly just suppresses wages in favour of big companies. E: What happened to Greece was largely because of their spiralling debt while they were not allowed to inflate their way out of it, which is not something that really happens a lot in Eastern Europe. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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Jan 22, 2023 02:35
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Eh, the current Polish government is doing enough creative accounting, that it's getting harder and harder to say what the state of the finances are. So on the one hand having an independent currency makes some sense to try to stabilize poo poo, but on the other -  about the current national bank being independent.
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Jan 22, 2023 07:28
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Spiralling debt where the mandatory expenses each year outstrip the country's income you say? Sounds familiar.
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Private Speech posted:Eastern Europe in general is usually fairly low-debt and export-intensive. Slovakia got the euro and their wages (and overall standards of living) are still lower than the Czech Republic. I don’t imagine Czech people would be happy to switch to the euro, but that’s not a concern given the currently high inflation anyway.
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advanced statsman posted:Slovakia got the euro and their wages (and overall standards of living) are still lower than the Czech Republic. I don’t imagine Czech people would be happy to switch to the euro, but that’s not a concern given the currently high inflation anyway. Err the average wage in Slovakia is now 5% higher (1708 EUR vs 1630 EUR) than in Czechia.
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Private Speech posted:Err the average wage in Slovakia is now 5% higher (1708 EUR vs 1630 EUR) than in Czechia. For SK in 2022 quote:Průměrný výdělek v absolutním vyjádření sice meziročně vzrostl o 7,4 procenta na 1291 eur (31.630 Kč) For CZ in 2022 quote:Ve 3. čtvrtletí 2022 byla průměrná hrubá měsíční mzda ve Středočeském kraji 39 711 Kč a v porovnání se stejným obdobím loňského roku se zvýšila o 2 251 Kč (o 6,0 %). Výší průměrné mzdy se kraj řadil na druhé místo za hl. m. Prahu a těsně pod celorepublikový průměr. Not sure where you’re getting your data from, and also, costs of living in SK are still higher than in CZ. Maybe my data is wrong, but I can’t find anything reliable saying what you’re quoting. Edit: Looking through Slovakian sources this is the most recent info I can find: https://ekonomika.pravda.sk/ludia/clanok/649117-priemerna-mzda-atakuje-1300-eur-pozrite-si-v-akych-odvetviach-sa-zaraba-najlepsie-grafy/ I saw some websites reporting the average you mentioned, and there’s a suspicious 400 eur jump in their averages citing official sources but with no links to them: https://tradingeconomics.com/slovakia/wages Maybe you have access to something more official? Jumping the average by this much feels miraculous at best. advanced statsman fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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Jan 22, 2023 14:30
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That number is for the Central Bohemia region, it completely surrounds Prague and thus usually captures some of that sweet capital money.
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mobby_6kl posted:That number is for the Central Bohemia region, it completely surrounds Prague and thus usually captures some of that sweet capital money. Right, but it’s still not that different by the national average: quote:
Not that it truly matters all that much for sure, but I don’t think I’ve ever met a Czech who would rather have the euro instead of the crown.
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advanced statsman posted:For SK in 2022 If we look at Eurostat: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=GDP_per_capita,_consumption_per_capita_and_price_level_indices Czechia and Slovenia have identical AIC, which means that people in both countries broadly can afford the same poo poo. Price index in Slovenia, however, is 1/3 higher than that of Czechia, roughly, which would mean that Slovenians are paid more, to be able to afford the same poo poo. And Eurostat is happy to confirm that for us as well, that the adjusted average income level in Slovenia is like 50% higher than in Czechia. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20221219-3 To spare you clicks, calculation methodology: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/metadata/en/nama_10_fte_esms.htm
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Leave it to a lithuanian to mix up Slovakia and Slovenia!!
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Somaen posted:Leave it to a lithuanian to mix up Slovakia and Slovenia!! gently caress, and I’m even drinking coffee right now. In my defence, I’m, uhh, tall, and the caffeine is, uhhh, still travelling from my legs to my brain.
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Slovenia is not Slovakia. Anyway regardless of the exact numbers I think the view that Slovakia is significantly poorer is dated these days. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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Jan 22, 2023 15:07
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Okay, looking at the correct Slo now, Czech consumption levels are ~20% higher while their price indices are ~12% lower. Coincidentally, Czech adjusted income level is ~12% higher.
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Oh but I do think you're right that most people do not want to switch to Euro, so it is a bit moot (even ignoring the switchover criteria). e: I think they might have confused nominal and real average wages which is where the jump came from. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jan 22, 2023 |
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Somaen posted:Leave it to a lithuanian to mix up Slovakia and Slovenia!! Eh, as long as a NATO general doesnt mix us up, we're good I think. Though we could just swap our hockey teams, pretty please?
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TearsOfPirates posted:Eh, as long as a NATO general doesnt mix us up, we're good I think. Slovakia no longer has the power of Satan backing their hockey team, though?
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Bulgaria has a new national sport https://www.euractiv.com/section/elections/news/bulgaria-faces-snap-polls-as-socialists-abandon-plans-to-form-government/
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OddObserver posted:Slovakia no longer has the power of Satan backing their hockey team, though? Well my hockey NT is pylons being carried by one guy, so I wouldn't mind having Satan in my team. cinci zoo sniper posted:Bulgaria has a new national sport https://www.euractiv.com/section/elections/news/bulgaria-faces-snap-polls-as-socialists-abandon-plans-to-form-government/ EEsh that's rough as hell. Is there a clear reason why they don't want to form a government?
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TearsOfPirates posted:Eh, as long as a NATO general doesnt mix us up, we're good I think. It's no good, a balt should know the pain of constantly getting confused with your charming yet backwards distant half-sibling
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Somaen posted:It's no good, a balt should know the pain of constantly getting confused with your charming yet backwards distant half-sibling The six toed, slow horse people of the north vs the polish hating cepelinai eating thieves of the south ._.
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TearsOfPirates posted:Well my hockey NT is pylons being carried by one guy, so I wouldn't mind having Satan in my team. Miroslav Šatan wasn't quite the player Kopitar is, but having his name spelled as "Satan" on the old Sabres Goathead jerseys had some extra entertainment value: 
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OddObserver posted:Miroslav Šatan wasn't quite the player Kopitar is, but having his name spelled as "Satan" on the old Sabres Goathead jerseys had some extra entertainment value: Man that Sabres jersey reminds me a tiny bit of the awesome jersey we used to have on the NT. God drat it.
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TearsOfPirates posted:Well my hockey NT is pylons being carried by one guy, so I wouldn't mind having Satan in my team.  TearsOfPirates posted:EEsh that's rough as hell. Is there a clear reason why they don't want to form a government? Their establishment kind of just fell apart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Bulgarian_protests
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So Babiš, one of our second-round presidency candidates, said today in a debate that he would not send army if Poland or Baltics were attacked, because he wants peace not war.
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Xarn posted:So Babiš, one of our second-round presidency candidates, said today in a debate that he would not send army if Poland or Baltics were attacked, because he wants peace not war. Babiš is an rear end in a top hat, shocking! Is there anyone who isn't a piece of poo poo about it?
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advanced statsman posted:Right, but it’s still not that different by the national average: In the excerpt you quoted it said that the average wage in Central Bohemian Region is ranked as second highest - behind only Prague. It also said the wage is below national average... That means that top earners in Prague significantly mark up average wage. Also, the median wage was only 34 111CZK. Gladi fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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Gladi posted:In the excerpt you quoted it said that the average wage in Central Bohemian Region is ranked as second highest - behind only Prague. It also said the wage is below national average... And apparently the median wage in Slovakia is 1288 eur, so around 30k czk. The point was illustrating the difference between CZ and SK and why for people in CZ the eur may look unappealing.
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https://youtu.be/ruloAuFazcg Hawerchuk, Gretzky, Lemieux. 
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russia has found new and exciting ways to try and make meduza shut up https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status/1618685616782442496 are there like, any opposition media kinda sorta allowed to exist in-country anymore or is everything full on diaspora media at this point
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VSOKUL girl posted:russia has found new and exciting ways to try and make meduza shut up https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status/1618685616782442496 Journalism was killed in just 2-3 months, as the groundwork was laid all the preceding years.
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The Czech Republic has elected Petr Pavel, former head of the NATO Military Committee, as its president, beating former PM Andrej Babiš 58:42  Clearly this infiltration of civilian power by the military is further proof that homonazi corruption has given the Bohemian scoundrels an insatiable bloodlust.
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