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Facebook Aunt posted:Why is the whistle electronic? Why do you still need to blow through an electronic whistle to activate it? Only bosuns are allowed to know these answers
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nine-gear crow posted:Legit, I think they made the Titan-A as ugly as possible to sell people on the Enterprise-F as an upgrade replacement for it.  Facebook Aunt posted:Why is the whistle electronic? Why do you still need to blow through an electronic whistle to activate it? https://www.ceremonialbugle.com/
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Jan 30, 2023 03:24
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nine-gear crow posted:Also here's a non-region locked version from PStew himself for people not in the US: The lines about blowing stuff up etc really sound like they were written by someone who has never seen TNG or has any idea what it's about.
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Jan 30, 2023 03:26
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Wheezle posted:The lines about blowing stuff up etc really sound like they were written by someone who has never seen TNG or has any idea what it's about. Were they? Were they really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwDAiAKhsCs 
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Wheezle posted:The lines about blowing stuff up etc really sound like they were written by someone who has never seen TNG or has any idea what it's about. Or from a character in universe. What we are told life on the Ent-D was like and what actually happened to it over the 8 years it existed is a big contrast. Every 2-3 weeks there would have been another Starfleet news update with everyone crowding around to hear what crazy poo poo the Enterprise had got up to now. This video, but the list of things that for any other officer would be a career defining or ending moment just goes on for an hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzhgEGeKcbo
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Jan 30, 2023 03:36
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Knormal posted:I'm pretty sure the Titan-A is the result of some producer taking the Constitution-refit and saying "make a version of this", like they did for the Akira and NX-01. The overall silhouette isn't that similar because of that weird-rear end secondary hull, but there's so many tiny details that are ripped straight off the Ent-A. The Titan-A is a version of a movie-era fan design that looks actually pretty good in the original version, but has been ruined by updating it to 25th century aesthetics.
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Yeah it’s the texture, the nacelles, and that deflector. Bill Krause’s original Shangri-La model looks good.
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Jan 30, 2023 03:48
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nine-gear crow posted:Were they? Were they really? Many people say TNG last episode being 45 minutes of the crew having a rather boring day, then the ship exploding for no explained reason, killing everyone, was a bad way to end the series, but honestly I say it thematically was very fitting. Sometimes spaceships just explode. Important life lesson that.
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Oh is that what this is that came up when I was GISing the Titan? I don't really mind either version? The 2280's version looks like a logical midpoint between the Constitution and the more rounded Excelsior, but the chopped-up saucer seems wrong for the time and seems more like something they'd do in the late 2300's.
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dr_rat posted:Many people say TNG last episode being 45 minutes of the crew having a rather boring day, then the ship exploding for no explained reason, killing everyone, was a bad way to end the series, but honestly I say it thematically was very fitting. It was honestly a nice denouement to the penultimate episode that was just 45 minutes of kicking, punching, shooting, and screaming.
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Knormal posted:Oh is that what this is that came up when I was GISing the Titan? https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1619412808676020224 Matalas has an absolutely gorgeous model of the Titan-A that someone made for him and that version of it actually looks really good compared to the on-screen version of it.
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I will say it looks better in the new trailer than it did in the earlier ones. I think the design is salvageable if they did go to series with it, they just need to fix it up. The top front of the hull needs something there, even if it's just better texturing, the nacelles need adjusting, I really don't think the visible lightbulbs in the bussards work, and the impulse drives need to be made a bit more coherent (there's like three different designs for impulse engines on there, make them look related to each other even if they're different shapes). I think some tweaking to the self-illuminating could help too, it's highlighting the shape badly and calling out areas in a way that makes it look more awkward than it needs to. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jan 30, 2023 |
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When the ship was revealed Matallas said his favourite thing ever was the Constitution-class and the Titan-A is literally a "Constitution-3 Class" so you don't need to speculate on where the demand for "make it look like a Connie" came from! My only thing with the design is actually more theme related than visual, which I'm mostly fine with - if the Titan, an advanced ship that would have fit right alongside the First Contact era of Starfleet ships achieved such notable feats that it achieved legacy registry status... shouldn't it's successor be something pretty top of the line to match that prestige? Yet here it is as this smaller ship with an out of time aesthetic.
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Seemlar posted:My only thing with the design is actually more theme related than visual, which I'm mostly fine with - if the Titan, an advanced ship that would have fit right alongside the First Contact era of Starfleet ships achieved such notable feats that it achieved legacy registry status... shouldn't it's successor be something pretty top of the line to match that prestige? Yet here it is as this smaller ship with an out of time aesthetic. The Titan-A is smaller as a feature, apparently: the massive impulse engines and smaller size combine to make it hypermaneuverable and also incredibly fast at sublight, and that'll be called out in the show and put to use according to Matalis.
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Seemlar posted:When the ship was revealed Matallas said his favourite thing ever was the Constitution-class and the Titan-A is literally a "Constitution-3 Class" so you don't need to speculate on where the demand for "make it look like a Connie" came from! This has also been a Starfleet that's been at relative peace for the 15 years since the Living Construct hosed up one quarter of the fleet and the Mars Synth Rebellion finished off the other three, so maybe there has been room since then to experiment with some more throwback designs for certain vessels?
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MikeJF posted:The Titan-A is smaller as a feature, apparently: the massive impulse engines and smaller size combine to make it hypermaneuverable and also incredibly fast at sublight, and that'll be called out in the show and put to use according to Matalis. Against all odds that's actually kind of reassuring? nine-gear crow posted:This has also been a Starfleet that's been at relative peace for the 15 years since the Living Construct hosed up one quarter of the fleet and the Mars Synth Rebellion finished off the other three, so maybe there has been room since then to experiment with some more throwback designs for certain vessels? Now I'm going to fixate on Matalas love of starship broom theory and think about how maybe Starfleet just needed to turn to refurbishing old hulls or using them as the framework for new ships after the fleet had it's resources shredded multiple times in the space of 20 years
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Big Mean Jerk posted:They even added him to the new poster along with Lore I kinda like how it looks like Geordi's gonna be much more central.
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That new ship in the trailer is another Bill Krause design https://twitter.com/buckadmiral/status/1619874799047802882?s=46&t=hdlMFl1NJCAWDsoDYwHDQw https://twitter.com/buckadmiral/status/1619878153434058754?s=46&t=hdlMFl1NJCAWDsoDYwHDQw
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Seemlar posted:My only thing with the design is actually more theme related than visual, which I'm mostly fine with - if the Titan, an advanced ship that would have fit right alongside the First Contact era of Starfleet ships achieved such notable feats that it achieved legacy registry status... shouldn't it's successor be something pretty top of the line to match that prestige? Yet here it is as this smaller ship with an out of time aesthetic. Really I have more of an issue of the Titan being the first non-Enterprise to get a letter, Discovery's 32nd-century callbacks notwithstanding, but I guess 25th-century Starfleet's loosening the rules.
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I liked the new Stargazer a lot last season, and I'm starting to like these Krause designs a lot too. I think sharing a trailer with an Odyssey might be what did it. Never did like that thing, so just about anything flying next to it will look better
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Knormal posted:The Luna-class was supposed to be mid-sized, it makes sense to me its successor would be a similar role. Voyager beat the Titan to a letter in its registry by about a decade. NCC-74656-A is out there somewhere as of the end of this season of Prodigy, and we know it eventually goes up to J by the time Discovery lands in the 32nd century.
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nine-gear crow posted:Voyager beat the Titan to a letter in its registry by about a decade. NCC-74656-A is out there somewhere as of the end of this season of Prodigy, and we know it eventually goes up to J by the time Discovery lands in the 32nd century. While that's totally just backdating it from Disco, that also makes more sense given Voyager's journey and how important it and project pathfinder were, and also Janeway is an admiral, she made a hologram of herself, she's drat well making sure her ship sticks around.
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MikeJF posted:The Titan-A is smaller as a feature, apparently: the massive impulse engines and smaller size combine to make it hypermaneuverable and also incredibly fast at sublight, and that'll be called out in the show and put to use according to Matalis. A littoral combat ship. Hope the hull doesn't dissolve in salt water!
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Even in 32nd century times I think we're still on six* ships getting legacy registry treatment so it's honestly not bloated yet, and Voyager I think is pretty worthy since we do know what it's incredible feat was *Not including the Yamato which was an error, or the fake Dauntless
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Has there ever been a test audience that actually improved a movie rather than making it objectively worse Generations originally had Kirk just getting shot in the back. The test audience's reaction to that contributed to the decision to spend an extra $5 million dragging everyone back out to the desert to re-shoot the ending. FlamingLiberal posted:So are they just going to retcon the idea that Data permanently disassembled him at the end of 'Descent'? Data just says that's what should happen, we never see it actually done (no, that's not what he does when he turns Lore off in that one scene), plus carrying out the equivalent of a death penalty (especially without a trial!) would be hosed up anyway.
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nine-gear crow posted:https://twitter.com/ToddStashwick/status/1619866552085643266 He's a great actor and probably plays a cool character we'll come to love so like Rios, 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Data just says that's what should happen, we never see it actually done (no, that's not what he does when he turns Lore off in that one scene), plus carrying out the equivalent of a death penalty (especially without a trial!) would be hosed up anyway. Also where did Lore get his saggy old man body and/or skin from? I'm assuming that's going to be explored a bit in Season 3. Maybe Lore's old body was disassembled and put in storage and his consciousness was downloaded into a new form? Maybe something even dumber happened? We don't know... yet.
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MikeJF posted:It was well established in TNG several times that Soong gave Data ageing. I get that, but it's funnier if I picture Lore as Creepio from the Auralnauts' Star Wars saga, just him constantly screaming "FATHER! YOU PROMISED ME FLEEEEEESH!"
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Geordi probably pulled some strings as a Commodore to reactivate Lore in an attempt to rehabilitate him or merge him with Data (into... Datalore.) Waited until the Synth ban was lifted. And he could have deliberately made Lore old and slow as a contingency. I doubt Spiner is going to play a villain the entire run for the reunion season.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Soong secretly gave Lore an “aging badly” program and every scene is just him being furious at how terribly human all his joints feel now "Every movement is AGONY for me, Geordi!" "...Good?"
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nine-gear crow posted:I get that, but it's funnier if I picture Lore as Creepio from the Auralnauts' Star Wars saga, just him constantly screaming "FATHER! YOU PROMISED ME FLEEEEEESH!" Oh please, let Picard season three’s MacGuffin be a variation on the Singularity Engine. It’s beauty shall be haunting.
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nine-gear crow posted:Were they? Were they really? Khanstant posted:Trailer really pushed me back towards just expecting more Picard. Dark movie ships and big season long big bad build up, they can't help themselves. One episode per season, every season.
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