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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
soz.

penis action dogatron

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Dogatron
Jun 24, 2020
Just saying peoples experience, financial reward and memories of covid lockdown may differ.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

i’ve actually fallen off listening to radio 4 for a while now, the politics news stuff is either too depressing or infuriating, the comedy is fine but a bit safe and the obituaries are just the same variation on what rich and well connected people are want to do

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
Pretty loving narrow-minded of Hannah "Fry" to emphatically (made-up word!) state it was not aliens. She should do her own research "on" The Internet rather than making assertions like that. Yes this is a bit. As if a foreigner six hundred years ago when the pyramids were built (by aliens) could understand the mathematics behind putting slightly less fewer less fewer less fewer less not as much material on the higher "level" of something and then have it come to a point. Doesn't pass the smell test, does it? In fact, if anything it's racialistism against aliens. Again, this is a bit. Typical of the BBC (Bolshy Bolshevik "Company") though, hiding the truth as usual. What else don't they want you to know? That this is a bit? Speaking of hiding the truth, let me tell you about how (((The J--NO CARRIER

Dogatron
Jun 24, 2020

NotJustANumber99 posted:

soz.

penis action dogatron

You seem quite fixated by male genitalia.

Do you want to talk about this?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Dogatron posted:

Just saying peoples experience, financial reward and memories of covid lockdown may differ.

seemed like you wanted to make a guy feel bad for mentioning a minor personal financial win when you don't really know poo poo about them or their situation. Whilst dropping in how hard working, put upon and virtuous you are.

But I guess I misunderstood.

I got loads of sex during lockdown and didn't have to do any work.

But friends died and I lost probably 50k.

so swings and roundabouts.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Dogatron posted:

You seem quite fixated by male genitalia.

Do you want to talk about this?

yes

Dogatron
Jun 24, 2020

NotJustANumber99 posted:

seemed like you wanted to make a guy feel bad for mentioning a minor personal financial win when you don't really know poo poo about them or their situation. Whilst dropping in how hard working, put upon and virtuous you are.

But I guess I misunderstood.

I got loads of sex during lockdown and didn't have to do any work.

But friends died and I lost probably 50k.

so swings and roundabouts.

Seriously- what about your fixation on male genitals?

Why do you feel the need to introduce the amount of sex you had during lockdown into the conversation?

I think you may have deep rooted problems about your sexuality. There are people out their who can help. Do not suffer alone.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Dogatron posted:

Seriously- what about your fixation on male genitals?

Why do you feel the need to introduce the amount of sex you had during lockdown into the conversation?

I think you may have deep rooted problems about your sexuality. There are people out their who can help. Do not suffer alone.

You brought up peoples experience of lockdown and I gave you mine.

I've probably got lots of problems, I don't particularly think my sexuality is at the top of that list but maybe?

I do think you're only bringing it up to try and belittle or bully me though which is pretty poo poo.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I miss the film titles with wank in the name

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
dogawank

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Tomorrows Telegraph

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
:golfclap:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Dogatron posted:

I worked 48 hour weeks, rotating from days to nights on 12 hour shifts during lockdown. I might have earned slightly more than £3000 on overtime pay , but not by much.

I used to remember the happy hypoxics, the ppe, the coughing and the body bags- but now I can look back and celebrate somebody earning £3000 for doing nothing.

Thank you.

...and? I would happily swap that in an instant for COVID never having happened. I would also rather like my ex to still be alive. So quite frankly go gently caress yourself.

Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!
pull up thread you're generating reports. thanks and goodbye

Dogatron
Jun 24, 2020

NotJustANumber99 posted:

You brought up peoples experience of lockdown and I gave you mine.

I've probably got lots of problems, I don't particularly think my sexuality is at the top of that list but maybe?

I do think you're only bringing it up to try and belittle or bully me though which is pretty poo poo.

I did not, I quoted another forum user who saved £3000 and I compared and contrasted his experience of lockdown to mine.

You used gendered insults about male genitalia, I complained. You did it again.

I suggested you seek help for your problems about your sexuality- normal adults do not boast about having lots of sex on the internet.

Now I am trying to bully you.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
There is a lot of posting like loving dickheads in here today. Find some loving solidarity.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Microplastics posted:

I miss the film titles with wank in the name

One Wanked Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Godzilla vs The Wank Monster

Dogatron
Jun 24, 2020

feedmegin posted:

...and? I would happily swap that in an instant for COVID never having happened. I would also rather like my ex to still be alive. So quite frankly go gently caress yourself.

but you were happy about the £3000?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I really wish I'd never linked the Twitter wank challenge itt. Or else that anyone had played it the way I suggested, which actually requires a teeny bit of thought rather than machine-gunning out 500 bad wordplays in a single post. Bad mind-virus, begone.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Wank with the Wind

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

wanking hill

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Wank on a plane????
Snakes on a wank!!!!


Snakes wank a plane?!?!!

*Radio 4 Sunday comedy live audience collapses in gales of comfortable laughter*

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
*leans into mic* And that's a bit like Jeremy Corbyn, isn't it?

(Radio 4 being the "______________________________, isn't it?" station. Try to ignore it or it'll drive you up the wall every time.)

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Sundays always make the thread go a bit weird.

Have a good night's sleep all, and may your monday morning be stress free and lacking wankery (unless that is your preference)

I have to fill out a shitload of paperwork tomorrow and I really don't want to.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

EmptyVessel posted:

Nice, actual engagement. Thank you.

Please do not use my deciding to try to engage with one of your points as a way of sniping at others for not taking time out of their day to engage with your obtuse rambling posts. I am not The Good Example Poster to be paraded around to show how much you think everyone else is a closed-minded idiot. This kind of "ahh, a good poster, unlike the rest of you blowhards" is one of the most annoying kinds of posting out there and I resent having my posts involved in it.

EmptyVessel posted:

Please expand on "all the stuff that was also applied to gay people which.. [I've] ..decided doesn't count". Specifically what? Genuine question. Not parsing the reply.

Your stipulation that something had to be "specific" to the trans community to count as being criminalising being trans. I think this is simplistic. For example:

EmptyVessel posted:

I am aware of cross dressing struggles. I used to work with an excellent archaeologist who was also a transvestite in his off time. Not even remotely transexualtransgender or gay - I have this from his own mouth, he was also happily married with a supportive wife who had no issues at all with his transvestism (yes, I know that being hetrosexually married does not automatically mean anything about private, personal sexual identity) - he just felt more comfortable kicking back dressed as a woman.
Please don't conflate transvestite with transexualtransgender. You'd be effectively denying my friend his identity. :)

I am fully aware of the distinction between transvestite and transgender. My point is that laws criminalising cross dressing very much target trans people also. Many, if not all, trans people would be prevented from living their lives as a result of these laws, and so it should count as criminalising transness. Your cutesy "transexualtransgender" bit is also cloying.

EmptyVessel posted:

One of the bravest men I've ever met. He used to walk the full length of Princes Street in Edinburgh on Friday and Saturday nights en route to Fire Island, in full drag. At six foot three, before he put on heels, he was not easily missable. This was back when Embra was much less staid than it is now and he ran the very real risk of a kicking or worse from the mobs of football casuals and other neds who hung out looking for targets. Punks also got singled out for battery.

In point of fact the transexualtransgender people I was aware of in Embra back then were, in my experience (other experiences also valid!), far more likely to be living quietly and successfully under the radar than even the less flamboyant of my gay friends and my transvestite friend.

This is absolutely portraying gay and trans oppression as some kind of competition which the gays and transvestites win and I struggle to see how you could not see that interpretation to your posts.

Additionally, the trans people you were aware of in Edinburgh at that time... that's not necessarily a representative subset of all trans people! It's the ones who were able to be out, the ones who felt able to be open to you specifically, hell, the ones who were alive... Now, I suspect you might point that you did in fact say it was your experience, so let's skip ahead to that: you still used this experience to make a point.

EmptyVessel posted:

there is an imo good, and necessarily much better informed than my opinion (I was never "gay" though I looked enough like I might be that I often got hit on friendlily in pubs or clubs, led to some good chat, also got kerb-crawled, much less pleasant), interview fragment from Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson in England's Hidden Reverse where he suggests that the younger generation, becoming teens post Pride etc., can never understand the sheer joy of affinity, fellow "otherness", that he felt on meeting Derek Jarman or reading William Burroughs. All three of course artists who used their very deviancy as central pillars of their creative practice. These days their identity would be much less freighted with the need to mask or code switch.

yes and kids these days will never experience the joy of the 1960s when sex was invented. Do you see how utterly patronising this comes off as?

EmptyVessel posted:

Don't anyone tell me I have no understanding of the pain.
As far as I can tell, nobody has said this. Some of us have picked at other bits of your posts but to be clear your pain is real. the gay struggle of the 80s and 90s was real.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

EmptyVessel posted:

Do you even know what sensu stricto means, or how it's used academically?
I already said it was a purely pedantic distinction. Read moar carefully. Try and understand I might have been mocking myself with my over pretension, if you can even conceive of such self-reflexive recursion from your lofty pinnacle of "Correct Thought" (what even is subtext? or humour?).

verily you have slandered all and sundry with these ad-hominem attacks from a position of verisimilitude.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
oh good another person who uses big words, Latin, and deliberately opaque language in general to try to seem clever, just what the thread needed

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016
Ambitiosus? Mecum? google translate

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

everyones a loving grifter

"Cressida Dick sought £500,000 to stand down as Metropolitan police commissioner after the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, ousted her over a litany of scandals, documents reveal."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/29/revealed-cressida-dick-sought-500000-to-quit-as-met-chief

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Quote is not edit, but I know what the Latin meant, its blindly loving obvious, but I don't think it actually matters much in this instance. Your still attempting to say "well it's different" your way out of refusing to identify with another marginalised groups oppression because it is not done in the exact same way.

If you are attempting to be none serious about your own pedantry it would help if you didn't include "correct thought" in the same drat place. It undercuts your supposed point and brings the far more obvious "I don't like being told off" point to the fore.

The exact form of legal oppression is different but it is still there that is what materially matters.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jan 30, 2023

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Boardwank empire

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Only Kindness posted:

*leans into mic* And that's a bit like Jeremy Corbyn, isn't it?

(Radio 4 being the "______________________________, isn't it?" station. Try to ignore it or it'll drive you up the wall every time.)

Yeah not listened to it in a while but whenever I'd catch it there would always without fail be some kind of nauseating Corbyn jibe tacked on at the end.

Meanwhile we have a system that has allowed "us", in a certain sense, to trade the lives of hundreds of thousands for a 10p plastic bag charge. The rewards of sensibleness and moderation...

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I read all of EmptyVessel's big post, signed the petition, and read and contributed to the Wank posts.

Just saying, you know.

This thread sometimes, blimey.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"
When I'm writing an email to important people at work, I write out what I need to say, then spend another half hour ruthlessly culling it so it's about one third of its original length, making it as concise as I possibly can.

EmptyVessel, your job is at the posting factory. Your fellow posters are your execs. Don't waste our goddamn time, do you know how many posts we have to get through every day, just to stay afloat?! Up your game, ASAP.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

pumpinglemma posted:

Being poo poo at your job can absolutely start being a criminal offence when it kills people - it’s called gross negligence manslaughter. There’s no reason at all why those laws couldn’t be extended from the people delivering frontline care to the people deciding on staffing levels. (Well, except the obvious reason that politicians are only willing to jail plebs.)

There may be no solution available - the people could absolutely determine safe staffing levels but without the actual £££ to pay for it, it's going nowhere.

Most places have risk registers and I suspect a significant number are filled with concerns about staffing, but fact is the pay and conditions are poo poo (what with strikes and refusal to improve conditions) means no one wants the work. You can divert if your unit is overstaffed but that just moves the problem around.

The only thing this lawsuit is going to achieve is a few more dead babies. I hope the parents never realise that.

It would be far more productive to have the fines come directly out of the CEO's pay packet.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

viz-a-viz the placard, it should be obvious that a piece of painted cardboard is not the work of a collective movement and therefore cannot be regulated by one. there is no protest movement with such strict discipline that it can avoid having to defend hyperbole on a painted sign. even if it could, as russell-moyle mp is finding out, something as innocuous as sitting down will just be taken as proving the point instead.

fundamentally it's about basic decency and letting people live their lives, and every effort by the terfs to make it a "best dressed media campaign" competition is intended to distract from that.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
:lmao:

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

i would posit that if placards were able to turn the public opinion against a protest, then we would see a lot more plain clothes police doing that in the crowd rather then than trying to agitate for a riot / smashing up shop windows etc

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Lotta posts since I last checked in her-- :ohno:

*clears throat* anyway

smellmycheese posted:

Tomorrows Telegraph



Wait, are they... making fun of themselves?

e: ahhh I see you just changed the headline and added the photo

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