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Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Loucks posted:

That’s an extremely common typo. Why is it notable?

It's pretty patheitc when a typo like this manages to get to print. Now hundreds and hundreds of Bring the Endings are out there, its a shame.

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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Loucks posted:

That’s an extremely common typo. Why is it notable?

There's a difference between a typo in a forum post and something that's gone through editing and is set to be printed in the multiple thousands as a designed product

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received
Extra sad because they got it right on the line immediately above it.

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





it's such an easy error to catch that Word does it automatically and nobody ever clicked the squiggly line to find it.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

ilmucche posted:

There's a difference between a typo in a forum post and something that's gone through editing and is set to be printed in the multiple thousands as a designed product

Oh for sure, but I’ve also worked in printing and this sort of thing is not at all uncommon even though it absolutely should be.

Anyway not trying to be combative. If it’s a big deal itt then ok.

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
Important decision to make

What sleeve colors to use for the WH40k precons.

Blue on the Imperium one? (because Ultramarines)
Lime Green or similar sickly green on Necrons? (because of the plasma fumes)
Red on Chaos ? (Because of blood/evil theme) Black?
Pink on Tyranid? (One of the Leviathan colors)

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Captain Invictus posted:

were there lots of mtg artist kickstarters before the foglio ones, or did that kinda kick things off? I got back into magic after their first kickstarter sadly, wish I could've picked some of those up. I feel like I've heard of 2 or 3 upcoming kickstarters since the second foglio ks ended. Nils Hamm is getting in the ring, if you want a Delver of Secrets or Paradise Druid playmat/print/etc
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/originalmagicart/nils-hamms-playmat-and-token-collection

It's not a popular card by any means, but if I can get a playmat of Nils Hamm's art for Lucid Dreams, I'd buy it pretty drat fast.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

mandatory lesbian posted:

You wonder if paying an artist to make new art is an extra fee?

No, I was wondering about the possible price difference between commissioning new art and using licensed art that already existed

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

Ineptitude posted:

Important decision to make

What sleeve colors to use for the WH40k precons.

Blue on the Imperium one? (because Ultramarines)
Lime Green or similar sickly green on Necrons? (because of the plasma fumes)
Red on Chaos ? (Because of blood/evil theme) Black?
Pink on Tyranid? (One of the Leviathan colors)

Find some NOS sleeves from each faction from the old 40k TCG and use those

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

I used purple for tyranids, otherwise yeah blue/lime/red. Gold would have been preferable to me for Imperium (more color wheel differentiation, blue is too close to purple) but my LGS didn't have any in stock :(

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

It's pretty patheitc when a typo like this manages to get to print. Now hundreds and hundreds of Bring the Endings are out there, its a shame.

The typo is less embarrassing to put into print than the phrase "your arrogant pride".

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

https://mtgcommander.net/index.php/2023/01/30/january-2023-quarterly-update/

Pretty solid update imo. I’m glad they’re letting all the Dockside players breathe easy lol.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Charity Porno posted:

No, I was wondering about the possible price difference between commissioning new art and using licensed art that already existed

So you are, in fact wondering if the price of paying a new artist would be a new fee. Bc im sure wotc worked out a contract where they had access to existing art

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

mandatory lesbian posted:

So you are, in fact wondering if the price of paying a new artist would be a new fee. Bc im sure wotc worked out a contract where they had access to existing art

Okay?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

mandatory lesbian posted:

So you are, in fact wondering if the price of paying a new artist would be a new fee. Bc im sure wotc worked out a contract where they had access to existing art

...for a fee

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
yeah I am seriously completely lost as to what point ML is trying to make here

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

In theory an artist could sell rights such that reusing the same art in a different context doesn’t incur any additional fees, but I don’t think anyone in this thread knows the details of these specific art contracts. Seems like a weird thing to bicker about since it’s all conjecture anyway.

If anyone here does legal work for wotc and feels like spilling a bunch of inside information though don’t let me hold you back.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
The contracts artists sign for card art are pretty well known.

They get a low lump sum payment (~$800), get sent some artist proofs, and they can reuse the image in their own playmats and some prints and stuff. The big money these days is in selling off the original which can net up to 5 digits if you're a big enough name or the card is OP.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

I stand corrected. I had no idea that stuff was public.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
Well no one has posted a screenshot of a contract but the artists are pretty open about it. It's like the one situation I can sort of point to and say it's a springboard for them often and they're being paid mostly in 'exposure'.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Well no one has posted a screenshot of a contract but the artists are pretty open about it. It's like the one situation I can sort of point to and say it's a springboard for them often and they're being paid mostly in 'exposure'.

Years ago at an L5R kotei, I met Drew Baker and we were talking about this fantastic piece he did of a mind flayer. He was saying the exposure he got from it was so huge and seemed really positive about the experience, going from illustrating for smaller AEG games to that.

http://www.drewbaker.com/portfolio9.asp

generatrix
Aug 8, 2008

Nothing hurts like a scrape
Does anyone know an online store where you can get specific Jumpstart packs, possibly still sealed in the inner plastic?

I'm putting together a Jumpstart cube and it's about 80% done. Got some pretty good luck with random JS / JS22 packs, but I'm short on green and black. The plan is to grab the set specific JS packs as they come out to eventually fill it in completely, but I do really wan the original JS Walls and JS22 Gross packs in my cube.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

They can't be that hard to just make wholesale out of singles, most of the decks are made out of bulk. If the pack is somehow searched and confirmed it's gonna be around that price anwyay.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Watched a breakdown of everything that comes in the Compleat Edition bundle and it'd be an easy pick up if it didn't cost $80.

Phryexian language Phyrexian Arena
20 foil phyrexian language lands
10 oil slick phyrexian lands (separate art, looked like a Geiger take on the Theros lands)
2 random mythics from the set in oil slick foiling.


Still might end up grabbing one at my LGS since there's a promo with a Phyrexian Life counter like the one from Commanders Arsenal if you buy from a WPN store.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Watched a breakdown of everything that comes in the Compleat Edition bundle and it'd be an easy pick up if it didn't cost $80.

Phryexian language Phyrexian Arena
20 foil phyrexian language lands
10 oil slick phyrexian lands (separate art, looked like a Geiger take on the Theros lands)
2 random mythics from the set in oil slick foiling.


Still might end up grabbing one at my LGS since there's a promo with a Phyrexian Life counter like the one from Commanders Arsenal if you buy from a WPN store.

80....

Man, I was considering grabbing that, but that's steep.

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


generatrix posted:

Does anyone know an online store where you can get specific Jumpstart packs, possibly still sealed in the inner plastic?

I'm putting together a Jumpstart cube and it's about 80% done. Got some pretty good luck with random JS / JS22 packs, but I'm short on green and black. The plan is to grab the set specific JS packs as they come out to eventually fill it in completely, but I do really wan the original JS Walls and JS22 Gross packs in my cube.

If you don’t mind using eBay, search there. I know there were a couple of places a year or so ago that sold specific JS packs at varying prices. You just select the pack you want and it tells you what they’re charging.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Framboise posted:

80....

Man, I was considering grabbing that, but that's steep.

Yeah, I envy the people that snapped it up when Amazon first listed it at regular bundle pricing.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Watched a breakdown of everything that comes in the Compleat Edition bundle and it'd be an easy pick up if it didn't cost $80.

...

Still might end up grabbing one at my LGS since there's a promo with a Phyrexian Life counter like the one from Commanders Arsenal if you buy from a WPN store.

The life counter is the only thing that I really want from it. I'll probably search eBay for one later. The Commander one I got off Amazon previously doesn't hold together well an just explodes. :(

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
haha i thought the 80 was fucky amazon presale pricing

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Maigius posted:

I may not be hip to all the neat combos, but seriously, why would you ever want to play that card? As far a I can tell, if you tap it, it deals you 2 damage, and switches blockers.

Homelands gets a justified rep as the worst set in terms of power level, but The Dark is definitely a contender for weak and bad cards

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
I feel like if I was going to spend 80 bucks I would use that 80 bucks to buy individually what I wanted out of that.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Homelands gets a justified rep as the worst set in terms of power level, but The Dark is definitely a contender for weak and bad cards

The Dark fits into the Fallen Empires mold of being a trash set but having a couple strong cards that get it just over the top of Homelands

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Sickening posted:

I feel like if I was going to spend 80 bucks I would use that 80 bucks to buy individually what I wanted out of that.

Yeah... that's kinda why I was saying it's too steep. For 40, sure, for 50, maybe, but anything higher is pushing it.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



The Dark was a very flavorful set, that also wasn't printed to hell and back, so the cool cards stayed cool for a very long time. Yeah it had a lot of terrible cards, but its highs were bangers like Maze of Ith, Blood Moon, or legit cool creatures like Preacher and Ball Lightning. Homelands doesn't even have a cool stupidly overcosted fatty like Leviathan.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Kalli posted:

The Dark was a very flavorful set, that also wasn't printed to hell and back, so the cool cards stayed cool for a very long time. Yeah it had a lot of terrible cards, but its highs were bangers like Maze of Ith, Blood Moon, or legit cool creatures like Preacher and Ball Lightning. Homelands doesn't even have a cool stupidly overcosted fatty like Leviathan.

The best card in the set was Ihsan's Shade imo and that's a whopping 5/5 for 6

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
The Dark at least has cool art and lore

(And a few problematic cards)

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:
homelands was a terrible set but it also rules. baron sengir? cmon

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



ram dass in hell posted:

homelands was a terrible set but it also rules. baron sengir? cmon

And yet you'd always rather have a stupid looking doofus in a dumb hat.

Witch Hunter 4 Life.

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Return to Homelands you cowards

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LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Charity Porno posted:

The best card in the set was Ihsan's Shade imo and that's a whopping 5/5 for 6

nah, the best cards from Homelands are Serrated Arrows, Memory Lapse, and Merchant Scroll, all of which are reasonable spells that have seen non-begrudging constructed play

and as far as creatures are concerned, imo there's a strong case to be made for Autumn Willow, 4/4 for 5 with (iirc) the game's first incidence of what would become Shroud and you can pay G to temporarily ignore it so you can enchant her or w/e

Homelands did have amazing flavor, it's a pity it nearly all was godawful mechanically, Return to Homelands would be neat (but won't ever happen lol)

LGD fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Feb 1, 2023

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