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forkboy84 posted:Maybe he has a rich history as a counterfeiter? Has he considered that? Kenny Omega big Blackjack Mulligan fan confirmed?
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Drakkel posted:https://twitter.com/ErikVanDjismie/status/1619850712208527361 "I watch wrestling shows that I wish they had no wrestling at all because I like wrestling-wrestlingless."
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Drakkel posted:https://twitter.com/ErikVanDjismie/status/1619850712208527361 Just go to the theatre dude what you enjoy is called a play
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Drakkel posted:https://twitter.com/ErikVanDjismie/status/1619850712208527361 Had to see if that guy was for real and that is one strange dude.
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Is there an equivalent of this for any other sport? Like are there people who tune into NFL games just for the half-time show and get extremely mad when it's just people playing football?
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Drakkel posted:Is there an equivalent of this for any other sport? Like are there people who tune into NFL games just for the half-time show and get extremely mad when it's just people playing football? Watching the superbowl for the ads and half time show has been a thing for over 20 years, yeah. Hell, they will do previews and teasers for superbowl ads now
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Coolness Averted posted:Watching the superbowl for the ads and half time show has been a thing for over 20 years, yeah. That's true but this would be like if those people would then get on the internet and declare that it should JUST be the commercials cause the mythical Casual Fan doesn't give a poo poo about football or some poo poo.
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Why is your roster full of rapists and pedophiles I shout as I'm being blacklisted from every media event for a hundred years.
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If you ask Tony and HHH a tough question would snap their fingers and their Imperial wrestling guards would throw you in a dungeon for the rest of your life.
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Drakkel posted:That's true but this would be like if those people would then get on the internet and declare that it should JUST be the commercials cause the mythical Casual Fan doesn't give a poo poo about football or some poo poo.
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Drakkel posted:Is there an equivalent of this for any other sport? Like are there people who tune into NFL games just for the half-time show and get extremely mad when it's just people playing football? People who just watch the opening and closing ceremonies at the olympics
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History Comes Inside! posted:Just go to the theatre dude what you enjoy is called a play
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This is exaggerating obviously, but the core of the point isn't bad. Roman's shtick is interesting because it's not typical wrestler heel stuff, it's more like how a bad person would really be. Flanderized for the people sitting in the back row, of course. EDIT: Indies obviously can't depend on anyone watching having seen the previous big show, let alone the last five big shows, so stories have to be pretty grounded in broad sports tropes to work in front of the live crowds.
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El Generico posted:This is exaggerating obviously, but the core of the point isn't bad. Roman's shtick is interesting because it's not typical wrestler heel stuff, it's more like how a bad person would really be. Flanderized for the people sitting in the back row, of course. the shtick is fine, it's just extremely telling that the person thinks it's "the most incredible wrestling character I have ever seen" given they're used to all the low-effort heeling the rest of the roster gets to do
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flatluigi posted:the shtick is fine, it's just extremely telling that the person thinks it's "the most incredible wrestling character I have ever seen" given they're used to all the low-effort heeling the rest of the roster gets to do True, true. If WWE gave more of their performers the trust they're giving Roman and Sami, you could have decent stuff all over the card.
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TV Zombie posted:PWG from my memory has been able to have some storylines that spanned across shows though that’s easier now with social media And Chikara was really good about storylines, if terrible in other aspects.
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Thinking back to my peak indy watching years, everyone had some progression from show to show back then. Even CZW & IWA:MS had angles & rivalries & all that. ROH certainly did even if they were really bad sometimes, PWG would. Sometimes it's more like the character-driven storytelling of an NCIS/Law & Order type show where characters develop as the show goes on even as overarching stories tend not to except on rare occasions. I'm not much of an indy viewer these days but are there really shows that don't have some sort of progression show-to-show? I suppose what I've seen of Warrior Wrestling doesn't.
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TV Zombie posted:PWG from my memory has been able to have some storylines that spanned across shows though that’s easier now with social media PWG can usually pull it off. I think a big issue is a lot of companies think they can book their shows the way PWG does with these long high spot heavy matches ignoring the fact that PWG only really gets away with it because they book world class talent. Most Indies have good workers but not in that athletic caliber and they would actually probably do better to just build angles and characters and all that. A wrestling school I go to just did a show where they had a big conclusion to like 4 big angles they’ve been running and it’s been some of the best wrestling stuff I’ve seen in the local scene.
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I mean, more power to them but it feels super weird to me that you watch 3 hour RAW and 2 hour Smackdown (and even then, there are people that only watch one or another as some kind of "team") for the storylines and have middling or even bad wrestling. Wouldn't just be better time spent watching a good tv series? I don't know.
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Guillermus posted:I mean, more power to them but it feels super weird to me that you watch 3 hour RAW and 2 hour Smackdown (and even then, there are people that only watch one or another as some kind of "team") for the storylines and have middling or even bad wrestling. Wouldn't just be better time spent watching a good tv series? I don't know. I don't think this is the case with most people, but definitely some, where like me they watch while they're playing a game or doing something else they're more focused on. If the wrestling is rubbish they're still playing a game, or doing the cleaning, or cooking dinner, if the bloodline or something good comes up they pay attention. Unlike AEW where I only have AEW (and PSP threads) on my screens. When people talk about "Podcast games" I include WWE along with the podcasts, same with a lot of other sports I have in the background while I do other things. In fact I'd say sports are actually better than podcasts when it comes to "podcast gaming." Sports have entire seasons where you can follow the general gist of what's happening, and then there's what happens over multiple seasons. In a podcast you might actually miss out on something important someone says. With an MLS game even if I miss a goal I still know who's won and who's lost. I'd hazard a guess this is partly why WWE repeats so much stuff that's just or recently happened. For me NJPW has quickly gone from the position WWE was in to something AEW is. And this is a problem. I don't have the mental energy to dedicate my full attention to multiple wrestling shows. I do have plenty of time to have bullshit on in the background.
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TV Zombie posted:PWG from my memory has been able to have some storylines that spanned across shows though that’s easier now with social media The only story PWG has is that the title makes you evil
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Mrenda posted:I don't think this is the case with most people, but definitely some, where like me they watch while they're playing a game or doing something else they're more focused on. If the wrestling is rubbish they're still playing a game, or doing the cleaning, or cooking dinner, if the bloodline or something good comes up they pay attention. Unlike AEW where I only have AEW (and PSP threads) on my screens. When people talk about "Podcast games" I include WWE along with the podcasts, same with a lot of other sports I have in the background while I do other things. An underappreciated reason why wrestling as a whole goes through boom and busts is that it takes up so much of your time and attention if you really want to watch and understand a whole card of fights regularly. It's not constructed like real fight cards where everyone just turns up and pays attention to the main event. Wrestling is potentially exhausting if you're following multiple promotions or a promotion decides to overload their followers with matches that matter.
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fez_machine posted:An underappreciated reason why wrestling as a whole goes through boom and busts is that it takes up so much of your time and attention if you really want to watch and understand a whole card of fights regularly. It's not constructed like real fight cards where everyone just turns up and pays attention to the main event. 100% this. With pretty much any other sport most people follow "their team." And stay up to date with the news in their league and broadly within the sport. They're relying on a (relatively) small group of people who are extremely into it to keep them appraised of what's new and exciting, and because these people are generally allied to "the sport" there's not so much jockeying for a particular team or division (i.e. they're not trying to claim only Australian cricket is worth watching.) I watch AEW because I like it, but at a baseline that's three hours. More if you include the "hobby" aspects of talking to people and keeping up with news. If I want to know some of the crossover stars who make guest appearances I'm also watching matches from Japanese shows, or at least reading up on what their story is—and that's not something that's collected in one space, it involves hours of going through forums, tweets and youtube clips. After I started watching AEW last year suddenly there was ROH as well. The rivalrly with WWE got me interested in watching some of that. AEW's relationship with Japan (and forbidden door) has me looking at the Japanese stuff. If this was any other sport I could just watch the cup final, or the most eventful match that weekend. And sure, I could just watch a particular PPV, but every promotion in wrestling has months of storylines and fights for every wrestler in every PPV. It's massive. In the end I burn out. I stop watching for a few months. Then I resubscribe to Fite and only watch Dynamite and Rampage to catch up. Before long I'm watching AEW, and a little WWE, while I'm also looking at NJPW. I've yet to have the sustained energy to look at any Joshi, which I really want to do. Then I burn out again. Wrestling is like watching a soap opera that crosses over with other soap operas and their stories, but not only in your own country, you're watching soap operas from the US, Mexico, Britain and Japan, and despite them all having their own style, from light hearted family fun, to sexy and over the top, to gritty and down to earth, they all interact and influence each other. It's a massive, massive world of "entertainment."
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