A MIRACLE posted:

I have faith, but I like every mike judge property. yes I even enjoyed the goode family

Dacap posted:

Pamela Adlon returning as Bobby is what makes me think they aren’t aging up unfortunately. That voice would be harder to work for Bobby as a 20-30 something

Dacap posted:

I know a lot of good-intentioned people broke their brains and went CHUD in the 2010s but despite being conservative I couldn’t see Hank liking Trump: a vain, prissy, loudmouth from New York.

Then again, Hank does respect Buck Strickland.

Milo and POTUS posted:

Buck strickland isn't from new york

...but hank is a new yorker. Hmm. Quite the quandary

seiferguy posted:

Do they recast Principal Moss? He was a major character in the later seasons.

The Moon Monster posted:

I wonder if they're going to address Luanne, Lucky, and Gracie at all. It'd be weird to have them just gone, but maybe to depressing to draw attention to.

Dacap posted:

The NY bit doesn’t apply, but Buck is the same
kind of narcissist small business tyrant personality as Trump. Trump just did it on a larger scale.

Detective No. 27 posted:

At the end of the day, it is a character.

Hazo posted:

Another big difference is Buck is a depraved alcoholic and gambling addict, whereas trump (aside from pills) is by all accounts a teetotaler because alcoholism helped kill his brother and dad, and he's far too cowardly to gamble with his own money.

The Saucer Hovers posted:

both of which were previously defined by actors that will not be easily replicated. those two were talented enough that it would be tough.

Detective No. 27 posted:

Hank comes from a time when there was the illusion of common decency between the two political parties. He even respected former Governor Anne Richards when he met her. He may have been a Reagan Republican but he’d probably be closer to boring centrist these days. He’d probably like Biden.

Regardless, a good chunk of the KoTH formula is Hank having an outdated viewpoint and having it changed, often overdoing it in ĺĺ¹licated!”

Dacap posted:

The NY bit doesn’t apply, but Buck is the same
kind of narcissist small business tyrant personality as Trump. Trump just did it on a larger scale.

BiggerBoat posted:

I mean, yeah, to make it work you have to age up the characters for sure. Having them older but basically the same from a personality standpoint and in a modern setting would seem to write itself, especially under Judge's guidance and keen eye for satire. It doesn't make any loving sense or even seem interesting to just pick up where they left off.

Stick Bobby in a community college with his own apartment where you introduce some roommates. Have Joseph doing...whatever it is he might do...maybe trying out for a USFL or XFL football team and get it to where Hank and Peggy are mulling over retirement in the modern age and all that goes with that.

You can write off Luanne and Lucky by saying they moved to Florida or, if it can be done tastefully, have them die off screen. Gracie Margaret Kleinschmidt and Good Hank are blank slates that you can do anything you want with, so maybe the Hill's are saddled with caring for two younger kids and then you can write in some generation gap bits.

Kahn would have probably moved into a bigger house that he can't afford.

A MIRACLE posted:

Actually in the rest of the world soccer is called foot! bøl

A MIRACLE posted:

Operation: Infinite Walrus

A MIRACLE posted:

Actually in the rest of the world soccer is called foot! bøl

A MIRACLE posted:

Smiley’s == Shoney’s doesn’t it. Even has the same font

King Carnivore posted:

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Star Man posted:

Hank would have voted for Trump in 2016. Hank presents like he's got his head on his shoulders, but he's just as gullible as Dale and Bill are. He's a total fuckin kissass to Buck, even though he fuckin despises him. Hank would have bought Trump's image as a legitimate businessman hook, line, and sinker. There's a chance that Hank would have had reservations in 2020, but he would have just voted libertarian or wrote in and told people he voted for Trump if asked.

Anyway

I wrapped up season thirteen. I've seen every episode of King of the Hill. I feel like there's a decline somewhere, but so much of this show runs together to me of the course of a year and a half that I've watched it. It's not as steep of a decline as The Simpsons goes through from season nine to season ten. Season nine of The Simpsons is a very tough act to follow, but season ten just felt like a slog to get through.

What I cannot at all get over is how much Hank just reminds me of my dad. Right-wing, stuck up, his greatest fear in life is that his son's gay, surprisingly progressive in some ways despite his general politics, loyal to his job to a fault, and worshipped work. Hank is a cartoon character written to come around on things, and a lot of that is because he's surrounded by people who are more open-minded than him in their own way. And like my dad, an injury ruined his chances at a life that they wanted. Hank would have gotten a full ride to college if he had won state, and he'd have had the sense to get through school on a business major and not lean on the prospect of getting drafted into the NFL.

Peggy reminds me of someone I grew up with, as well as a lot of elements that person's mother. Changes jobs like it's her underwear, is so headstrong that they think they know everything about a certain subject despite demonstrating the complete opposite, and thinks they can achieve greatness without the credentials required of it. It's certainly part of the joke about her character, but it absolutely slays me that Peggy thinks she can be a full-time teacher on just an associate's degree. Most states won't even let you get a substitute teaching license without anything less than a bachelor's degree (unless you're like me and from Wyoming, where the requirements are much lower, but I had a bachelors degree during my stints as a sub).

Because King of the Hill is so grounded in reality, it really does annoy me that the characters never age across all thirteen seasons. I think Bobby turns thirteen at least twice in the series. A show like The Simpsons or South Park is absurd at its core and lives in cartoony land, so it can get away with no one ever ageing and Homer going from boomer to gen-xer to millennial. King of the Hill should have aged its characters. The show should have ended with the kids at some point in high school. But Bobby's voice finally cracking like Joseph's did would have come with a voice actor change, and I doubt Pamela Adlon would have been understanding of being replaced unless they just left Bobby's voice as is.

And even though the reason the show ended because Fox cancelled it, I'm rather glad that King of the Hill had the decency to end. I cannot fathom how The Simpsons still has a consistent viewership, and I feel like the only thing that will finally kill it is when whichever of Dan Castellaneta, Julie Kavner, Nancy Cartwright, or Yeardly Smith quits or dies first.

drunk mutt posted:

Was this chatgpt? If not, wholey poo poo that's a lot of words about some cartoons.

Star Man posted:

the only thing that will finally kill it is when whichever of Dan Castellaneta, Julie Kavner, Nancy Cartwright, or Yeardly Smith quits or dies first.

Nooner posted:

lol if u think fox hasnt made each of them sit down and record every word in the dictionary in order to be still making episodes in 2099