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Memory Lapse and Merchant Scroll are arguably better than Serrated Arrows, but yes Homelands is full of Bad Cards
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LGD posted:nah, the best cards from Homelands are Serrated Arrows, Memory Lapse, and Merchant Scroll, all of which are reasonable spells that have seen non-begrudging constructed play They hate Homelands so much they replaced it in Ice Age Block later with Cold Snap. edit: I was trying to remember why Serrated Arrows was so familiar. Looked it up, it's because there was a tournament rule at the time to have at least 5 cards from each active set, so it saw play in decks using that rule.
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Feb 1, 2023 00:58
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I feel like most of the thematic points Homelands hits are going into Innistrad at basically every opportunity now.
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Feb 1, 2023 01:02
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Chainclaw posted:They hate Homelands so much they replaced it in Ice Age Block later with Cold Snap. They made that rule explicitly because of how much of a stinker Homelands was, IIRC.
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Feb 1, 2023 01:02
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Yeah Serrated Arrows is by no means a good card, it was just a non useless colorless option.
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Feb 1, 2023 01:06
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rickiep00h posted:I feel like most of the thematic points Homelands hits are going into Innistrad at basically every opportunity now. Innistrad has a shocking lack of both sea-dwarves and minotaurs though.
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Feb 1, 2023 01:25
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I don’t think there’s enough in Homelands to make a full return set. Maybe a Commander deck or two. “What if bad set was good?” isn’t enough justification for a return on its own
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Feb 1, 2023 01:43
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Flesh out all the wars in Fallen Empires imo. Dwarves falling to the Orcs / Goblins. The Humans falling to Orc attacks combined with religious strife. The cultists losing control of their thrull slaves. The Homarid - Merman wars and the Elves losing a war to salads.
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Feb 1, 2023 01:48
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LGD posted:nah, the best cards from Homelands are Serrated Arrows, Memory Lapse, and Merchant Scroll, all of which are reasonable spells that have seen non-begrudging constructed play Autumn Willow was 4GG
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Feb 1, 2023 01:49
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whydirt posted:I don’t think there’s enough in Homelands to make a full return set. Maybe a Commander deck or two. I mean it's about as good a justification as anything else (including "why not Good Set again?"), and the blank-slate nature is what would make a theoretical return pretty easy, because all you've really got to keep are some identifiable legends/names and color-associated tribes we've just had a wildly successful return-to-unsuccessful/unpopular-set-with-very-different-mechanics in NEO (not that OG Kamigawa was anywhere near Homeland tier), so if they wanted to redeem the nadir of MtG's game design there' zero reason to think they couldn't do so successfully that said, they're definitely not going to because Homelands' evocative flavor is pretty orthogonal to MtG's current flavor/storylines, and while the set remains in public consciousness as a punchline it also came out in 1995 so remembering/caring about anything to do with it is an extreme manifestation of Boomer Magic Toshimo posted:Autumn Willow was 4GG you're right  Ishan's Shade better
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Feb 1, 2023 01:59
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There's also the fact that Ulgrotha was loving destroyed, so Homelands 2 isn't really viable
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Feb 1, 2023 03:54
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Charity Porno posted:Yeah Serrated Arrows is by no means a good card, it was just a non useless colorless option. It saw a decent amount of play in TSP block constructed when it got timeshifted! 
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Feb 1, 2023 04:00
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Silhouette posted:There's also the fact that Ulgrotha was loving destroyed, so Homelands 2 isn't really viable when was that? the Apocalypse Chime killed pretty much everything but that was prior to Baron Sengir, Feroz, Serra, etc. showing up.
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poo poo, I thought that the chime going off was the end of the story. It's been decades since I gave homelands' story a single thought so whatever
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Silhouette posted:poo poo, I thought that the chime going off was the end of the story. It's been decades since I gave homelands' story a single thought so whatever no worries - I will fully cop to reading a wiki summary of the plot for the exact same reasons (I just had a vague sense that the plane was still around, but it didn’t seem at all implausible that some novel had blown it up in passing in the intervening couple of decades of real time)
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Can someone explain to me how exactly connive(1) will work if you activate it multiple times? I have some Illuminator Virtuoso in my deck, and I run cheap 1 cost enchantment auras, and I was wondering how exactly that would interact with the stack. I know the trigger goes on the stack, but can I draw like 3 cards for instance if they all resolve and then choose which to discard all at once, or is it 1 at a time?
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Akumos posted:Can someone explain to me how exactly connive(1) will work if you activate it multiple times? I have some Illuminator Virtuoso in my deck, and I run cheap 1 cost enchantment auras, and I was wondering how exactly that would interact with the stack. I know the trigger goes on the stack, but can I draw like 3 cards for instance if they all resolve and then choose which to discard all at once, or is it 1 at a time? It is one at a time, you're not supposed to have information about what the third card is when you're deciding on the first and second.
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whydirt posted:I don’t think there’s enough in Homelands to make a full return set. Maybe a Commander deck or two. Are we talking about Kamigawa now? 
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If they can take Homelands and do what they did with Kamigawa, I'd be down for it. Neon Dynasty ruled.
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I opened a Ikoria Collector's Box last night because I bought it during the Amazon Firesale and it had one of those LPN return stickers on it and today (or when it was Jan/31) was the last day you could do a return. It had the WOTC wrapping and it looked fine but didn't really want to risk it if it actually was somehow resealed. Anyways luckily it was not. The showcase triomes from this set look pretty nice.
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Feb 1, 2023 09:28
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what why were those on firesale, they have insane EV 
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reignonyourparade posted:It is one at a time, you're not supposed to have information about what the third card is when you're deciding on the first and second. Follow up question, I have other cards that say I get to draw a card when I cast an aura spell. If I cast an aura on the connive target, do I draw the cards first from the other cards, or do I have to connive first? Or do I get to choose the order?
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Akumos posted:Follow up question, I have other cards that say I get to draw a card when I cast an aura spell. If I cast an aura on the connive target, do I draw the cards first from the other cards, or do I have to connive first? Or do I get to choose the order? Of you control both triggers, and the same thing causes both to trigger, you choose the order they happen.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:what why were those on firesale, they have insane EV they were 170ish when they went for like 220-230 on tcg and 265 on amazon.. not sure if that's a firesale or not but this was the 2nd prime day amazon had where they had other super cheap boxes.
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Framboise posted:If they can take Homelands and do what they did with Kamigawa, I'd be down for it. Neon Dynasty ruled. It's only a matter of time before we get a steampunk set anyway. Or does Kaladesh count as that?
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Weird making good sleeves these days? I had a look at my LGS and they mostly have Dragon Shield which I want keen on last I tried a few years ago. Didn't see any UG Katanas which is what I was using pre pandemic.
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LGD posted:when was that? Volrath destroyed it hunting Urza. After the Planeswalker mech thing failed Urza retreated to Ulgrotha to recuperate but Volrath tracked him there and destroyed the plane, killing Serra. Urza escaped with the plane's heart and used it as a power source for the Legacy Weapon. Sengir and Radiance survived because the areas they lived in were overlaid with Dominaria at the time.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Volrath destroyed it hunting Urza. After the Planeswalker mech thing failed Urza retreated to Ulgrotha to recuperate but Volrath tracked him there and destroyed the plane, killing Serra. Urza escaped with the plane's heart and used it as a power source for the Legacy Weapon.
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Oh you're right, I had it backwards. He's from Dominaria but ended up on Ulgrotha. I remembered there was some fuckery with how Sengir vampires were on Dominaria but had the order reversed.
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I think it was posted a few pages back, about Mark Rosewater's notes on Magic history. Innistrad was pitched as a Return to Homelands, but it having minotaurs was one of the deciding factors to not have the gothic horror set be on Ulgrotha. Based on how hard they had to push a Return to Kamigawa, I bet they also had trouble getting the execs to sign off on a Return to a worse set that much fewer people were asking for.
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Framboise posted:If they can take Homelands and do what they did with Kamigawa, I'd be down for it. Neon Dynasty ruled. Kamigawa was a legends block, it couldn't help sucking and having a terrible power level. Yeah the artifact block right next to it was overpowered, but at least some people enjoyed that. Sort of funny that the best cards from Kamigawa were artifacts too. NEO had cool stuff like equipment/vehicles, saga dudes, modal spells (channel), and cared less about legends less than DMU or BRO. It also cared about spirits less than the recent Innistrad sets since they weren't mechanically interesting in the original Kamigawa anyways.
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homelands had a lot of flavor, which was the sole redeeming feature of the set, which would make it relatively easy to repurpose for an actually good set that said, there would be a real question of why you would do that instead of just taking any of the flavor you liked and put it in a "new" plane rather than remind people of the literal worst expansion ever made
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yeah the two things that helped kamigawa were the vocal minority who wanted to go back to it as well the known way to correct their fuckup (tapping pop culture instead of shinto mythology), neither of which ulgrotha has
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BizarroAzrael posted:Weird making good sleeves these days? I had a look at my LGS and they mostly have Dragon Shield which I want keen on last I tried a few years ago. Didn't see any UG Katanas which is what I was using pre pandemic. Not sure I quite grok what you're asking for. I use Dragon Shields but have anecdotally found that the shuffle quality varies depending on the color. I like the Matte Lightning the best.
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dragon enthusiast posted:yeah the two things that helped kamigawa were the vocal minority who wanted to go back to it as well the known way to correct their fuckup (tapping pop culture instead of shinto mythology), neither of which ulgrotha has Yeah, not really sure where they could go without treading on already utilized themes. Though that problem kind of exists for any new planes too. Really not a lot left in the fantasy Noun/Adjective wheel. Maybe Ulgrotha can be another Vampire plane but this time they're all Prussian aristocrats.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Yeah, not really sure where they could go without treading on already utilized themes. Though that problem kind of exists for any new planes too. Really not a lot left in the fantasy Noun/Adjective wheel. Maybe Ulgrotha can be another Vampire plane but this time they're all Prussian aristocrats. We could always visit Jace's Homeplane but that's sort of been covered by NEO now, since Jace is from a somewhat cyberpunk plane too.
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mycomancy posted:...what? Resources came out in Visions and Bloom came out in Mirage. They're separated in release dates by eight months. Infamous cheater Mike Long claimed WOTC intentionally seeded the combo over the block.
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It was proposed before, and I'll propose it again Homelands Out West Sheriff Willow has her hands full of trying to keep them Sengir boys from rustling all of Reveka's cattle, building up to a big shoot out at the Anaba corral. Meanwhile, Chandler and Joven have a plot to rob Eron's relentless train, leading an ambush party set to strike right after it passes through the An-havva Depot. Will Deputies Soraya and Rashka be able to stop the violence before those criminals blow up the bridge over Koskun Falls?
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Toph Bei Fong posted:It was proposed before, and I'll propose it again owns
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AngryBooch posted:Not sure I quite grok what you're asking for. I use Dragon Shields but have anecdotally found that the shuffle quality varies depending on the color. I like the Matte Lightning the best. I find their shuffling much better if you have inner sleeves on the cards, but inner sleeves + dragon shield mattes are very thick - too big for a 100+ boulder thick. Ultra Pro Eclipse also very good, but have a slightly tinted front which can be difficult to see through under some lighting.
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