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Tree Dude posted:So we know Dan has these texts too. I think what would be interesting to me would be an episode about his takeaways and what he thought was relevant to KF listeners that Hatewatch + SPLC might have missed. Just recapping these articles would be pointless because we can just read them. Do we know that Dan does? I don’t actually remember.
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bird food bathtub posted:That's the problem I'm getting at, I don't think they ever will suffer from pointing out their hypocrisy. The benefit is the people in the middle ground who don't have a clear feeling one way or the other yet, because pointing out hyprocrisy might be the thing that sways their decision. Highlighting a culture of hyprocrisy will also generally influence the thoughts of people, especially (but not solely) children as they start paying more attention to politics and society, which can shape the demographics of politics for an entire generation. Which seems kind of important? Like, if everyone just gave up and went "ah gently caress it, there's no reason to point out hypocrisy anymore" then a lot of people would no longer even know that hyprocisy even exists to a large degree, so there'd be a broader trend to follow and trust moneyed interests because there's no information out there refuting them. Which would lead to more hypocrisy and authoritarianism. tsob fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Feb 2, 2023 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:Do we know that Dan does? I don’t actually remember. Dan was quoted in a recent mainstream article giving some of his thoughts. It either implied or outright said that he has them. Can't remember the outlet but I'll try to chase it down when I get some time if someone else doesn't know off hand. Edit: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/exclusive-tucker-carlson-alex-jones-texts-revealed_n_63b5ad3ce4b0d6f0b9f77efa quote:Dan Friesen is the co-host of the Infowars analysis podcast “Knowledge Fight” along with fellow comedian Jordan Holmes. The two have spent five years and more than 700 episodes staring into the abyss of the conspiracy theory program and reporting back their findings. So I think my memory inflated the line "who has reviewed the texts" to be something a little more concrete than it is. I dont see why their BFF Mark Bankston wouldn't give them the texts though. Tree Dude fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Feb 2, 2023 |
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From part 2 of SPLC: "On the afternoon of March 4, 2020, Piccirillo sends Jones a photo of a black T-shirt with Jackson’s face on it. The words “#DirtyJudge Amy Berman Jackson'' are printed around her picture. Piccirillo asks Jones if he wants one of the shirts. “Please large,” Jones responds." Alex thinks he can wear a Large shirt
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Feb 2, 2023 19:15
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maybe it's for his friend Pat?
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Tree Dude posted:Dan was quoted in a recent mainstream article giving some of his thoughts. It either implied or outright said that he has them. Can't remember the outlet but I'll try to chase it down when I get some time if someone else doesn't know off hand. I think the answer is “a lot of laws”. Dan might have some access cause he was a no poo poo expert witness, but Jordan and we ain’t. Like maybe it is open season and anyone can get it. I don’t know how the privacy rights work all I know is that they’re gonna be complicated.
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It also seems like the kind of thing Dan would be relucant to discuss on the show anyway because they intrude onto Alex's private life rather than his public persona. Sure, it's conceivable that he might discuss stuff that Alex himself brings up in the show but even that seems like the kind of thing Dan would have to think about before he reached any kind of decision on it.
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I think Jordan semi recently said that he got brought in as an expert after Dan just because it was l the only way to legally protect and bind everyone in case Jordan saw or heard things he wasn't supposed to via Dan. Might be wrong
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I don't think it matters all that much for the purposes of these texts though. I remember Mark saying pretty early on he was open to giving the files to media outlets and concerned parties who asked for them. Knowledge Fight is the worlds leading Alex Jones media outlet. As demonstrated earlier though my memory can be unreliable and I know little of law stuff.
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Tree Dude posted:I don't think it matters all that much for the purposes of these texts though. I remember Mark saying pretty early on he was open to giving the files to media outlets and concerned parties who asked for them. Knowledge Fight is the worlds leading Alex Jones media outlet. And the splc has said they will be making it all public in the near future
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From the SPLC, they are public recordquote:Attorney Mark Bankston of Farrar & Ball LLP, turned the text messages over to Hatewatch in September on a not-for-publication basis, to aid Hatewatch’s mission of analyzing extremist networks. On Jan. 31, Hatewatch received word that a redacted copy of the messages entered the public record, enabling the publication of this series.
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Well more evidence I’m a dumb rear end in a top hat lol.
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It's curious to me that he was still entertaining finding dirt on the Comet Pizza owner over three years after he had to make a lawyer-induced public apology. We already knew this inability to learn lessons from the Chobani Yogurt guy's constant defaming, but still... I can only wonder if he's still demanding his Blackwater guys dig up dirt on the Sandy Hook families even now.
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That 60 page background check in Infowars files didn''t just appear out of nowhere
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Froghammer posted:That 60 page background check in Infowars files didn''t just appear out of nowhere Where are you getting 60? Everything I've heard gave it a higher page count.
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Could be misremembering Either way yeah, Alex uses his personal security guards to spy on the people around him. The man is immune to irony
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Hilarious to hear "suckie" showing up as the only thing Dan needs to address because of stackies and brakies and the general etymological patterns. Dan's explanation of his access during this episode is really poignant and great. Saying he recused himself once it got really personal is so telling. All hail Dan and his ever reasonable discretion. The splc stuff is too gross for KF content, like they've said before, but even more so as a pubic spectacle. ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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Episode actually so good it probably belongs in the op since it relates to the external event caused by the splc. Speaks a lot to Dan's intention and involvement in the world trying to present and interpret Alex.. And Jordan is tolerable the whole time!
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Is... Is it just me, or is that Wagner ad just using straight up Cyberpunk 2077 music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhehxYhXG5Q
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ILL Machina posted:Episode actually so good it probably belongs in the op since it relates to the external event caused by the splc. Done. I have thoughts on AJ’s escapist fantasy compound in the woods, once the normies get done listening in the morning.
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drat you a boss fr there are another half dozen formulatic objections to add to the list at this point, but honestly I think you've got enough on there to hook folks and they can find the rest themselves. ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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Wish I was as classy as Dan. Respect the hell out of his decision to step off the SPLC articles and how he chooses to run the podcast. Couldn't be me though. I'll take all the personal stories I can get. I have no such restraint even if I do generally agree with him on his issues with the coverage.
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ILL Machina posted:drat you a boss fr That's the rationalization I'm using for my laziness. Thank you. Though, I'll try to stay on top of adding episodes like this and anytime they have a 'mainstream' guest. I hope I get to link a Doughboys episode, drat it. Marsupial Ape fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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FFT posted:I wouldn't be surprised if they cover some episodes from the relevant days.
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FFT posted:Welp I'm surprised they weren't notable. That’s just his maintenance buzz he has to keep going through the day.
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Right, (mostly) functional alcoholic.
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"It's great that we've gotten to the point that you can 'neighbors' yourself."
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Vodka must give him an even keel, which is why he day drinks it. Dark liquors obviously make him ornery. What does it say about your life when the only person who respects your basic human dignity is the same person who has devoted the last six years of his life to aggressively shaming you in public? Thank Dan or Dan.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Vodka must give him an even keel, which is why he day drinks it. Dark liquors obviously make him ornery. It's a shame reality isn't a simulation, because it'd be fascinating to allow Alex the chance to step into a private booth away from the cameras that are reality and speak to an external audience about how he feels knowing that his biggest critic in some ways is also a strong defender of his right to a private life. A chance to hear him speak on it without putting on a personality for a paying audience he feels he has to maintain a personality to continue grifting. It does seem like the kind of thing someone in his orbit, like his ex-wife or something, will eventually write a tell all book about now that I mention it.
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I have no idea what that is, or even a desire to turn it into a recurring segment so much as think it'd be an interesting thing to get an insight into once. That said, turning InfoWars into anything else seems like it'd be a net gain, so yes?
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Can you vote people out? I'd love to vote people out.
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"Replicants have rights" is so good. Alex does nothing but watch sci-fi movies and doesn't understand a word of them.
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Grand Fromage posted:"Replicants have rights" is so good. Alex does nothing but watch sci-fi movies and doesn't understand a word of them. That was like, the entire point of the movie is that they don't have rights. That's why they mostly did industrial work, soldiering or sex robots.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:That was like, the entire point of the movie is that they don't have rights. That's why they mostly did industrial work, soldiering or sex robots. Well, that and ambiguity of whether Deckard is a Replicant or not and how that should extend to everyone questioning why others do or do not have rights. rear end in a top hat shithead fuckers like Jones are incapable of comprehending something that starts from a position of empathy though, so welp.
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When Alex talked about his plan to put out even more content and building a home studio and a space for roundtable discussions I couldn't shake this feeling that this could be a sign that he's realizing he won't be able to keep the InfoWars studio space and needs to downsize.
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First and foremost, I recognized the desperation in Alex's voice describing his dream homestead. Reality must be getting close, because that is a straight up escapist fantasy. Assholes like Alex have a deep desire to a be petty chieftan with just some complaint women, a couple oxen, and some thralls for labor. That's his happy place.
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tsob posted:It also seems like the kind of thing Dan would be relucant to discuss on the show anyway because they intrude onto Alex's private life rather than his public persona. Sure, it's conceivable that he might discuss stuff that Alex himself brings up in the show but even that seems like the kind of thing Dan would have to think about before he reached any kind of decision on it. Dan does talk about it on this one. He was involved with the project, he no longer is, and he sounds pretty pissed about the way the SPLC handled it (and with good reason).
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