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Lol drat Diluc fell off hard I'm glad I got to use him way back when he was just indisputably the best character in the game back when
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 07:43 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 19:42 |
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xiangling was still better than him back then it's jsut that nobody know how tf to play xiangling
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 07:46 |
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Cat-shaped Witch posted:Lol drat Diluc fell off hard He's still perfectly serviceable now even if he's overshadowed by some newer characters. I didn't get him until I lost my Nahida 50/50. He makes a decent driver for offfielders, the biggest complaint I have is running serpent spine on him practically requires both Bennie and a shielder. So I wind up with Diluc/Kaeya/Bennie/Diona. Though the team gets pretty bogged down by pyro immune enemies
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 08:26 |
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0.1% of players still carrying the torch and using Aloy on floor 12. Still annoyed I started playing after she was given out for clearly the last time.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 09:41 |
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Aloy was such a bizarrely half-assed crossover. Like here's this cool character. We're just dropping her into the game with no fanfare, no cutscenes or events, not even any constellations. Have fun! And she's not even that outstanding either. I think the coolest thing people managed was reverse melting her burst for big nukes.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 10:14 |
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it's fun to suck up her freezy grenades
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 10:54 |
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Aloy is still the only character that had the passive to not scare animals.MoonCrab posted:I haven't tried this abyss yet, since I'm still waiting for Yelan to drop, but I thought it might be interesting to check the akasha site and see what the usage rates are atm. Alhaitham/Yaoyao were pretty disappointing before, but I'm pretty sure it might have been because people hadn't had time to raise them. Probably. Let’s not ignore that floor 12 has a boss that ignores targeting when it’s invisible and takes quicken to weaken. I had to include nahida just for that boss.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 14:25 |
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He's kind of beatable with just electro because you can use electro on the tubes attached to him after the first construct phase and he falls over. But dendro+electro (especially nahida) makes it suuuper easy. Side 2 of this abyss was pseudo-designed for Xiao, he has a really good kenki matchup and the triple mages in 12-1-1 spawn so he can swirl them all. Still a weaker character so lots of stuff is easier. Tighnari is also very nice for side 1, his clouds do a lot to screw woth scorpion+bird and the other chambers are pure single target. Preliminary sketchy leaks suggest Baizhu is a non-healing shielder. Having messed around with Haitham a lot Haitham+Kuki+Xingqiu/Yelan+Zhongli is the easiest team of his to clear side 1 with so turning ZL into a dendro character that can carry Deepwood could be nice. Non-healing shielding catalyst support also says prototype amber really loud to me. Btw I have no idea how people are clearing this abyss with scara my attempts have not gone well, floor 3 is just not suited for him. No Wave fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 2, 2023 |
# ? Feb 2, 2023 19:14 |
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I will never understand the rage people have over Aloy not having constellations. C0 is and should be fine for most characters?? I guess the fact she kind of sucks and they were hoping cons would make her suck less us fair, but still. (also her bow only working while playing on on the PSN is obnoxious)
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 20:31 |
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She's gimmicky and not all that good to begin with, especially compared to the other Cryo archers, and having no cons means there is no way to improve her mediocre performance aside from infinitely grinding artifacts, which is effort far better spent on better characters (like the other Cryo archers). Her being a supposed 5* doesn't help, neither does her signature bow only being given out / functional on Playstation. It was just a really half-assed crossover that sucks all around. If you're more a fan of HZD you're angry she's underwhelmingly lame in Genshin. If you're more a fan of Genshin you're angry she can't perform at a 5* level thus is a waste of resources.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 20:48 |
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It's because she isn't balanced like a 5 star, she's balanced like a mid-tier 4 star, or maybe a traveler element. Just being able to get talent levels on C3 and C5 would help her a decent amount.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 20:49 |
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C3 and C5 matter an awful lot yeah. They're the least interesting constellation on every character but 21% damage increases are massive, that's larger than the boost most characters get going from best 4 star -> signature 5 star weapon.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 20:52 |
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c3 and c5 are literally just "number is higher" constellations??? why would it matter whether a character has access to them, there's no difference between adding C3 vs just making the character's E do 10% more damage or whatever like if aloy is bad you can complain about her being bad but it seems pretty pointless to zero in on those specifically, if number is too low just say "number is too low"
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 20:58 |
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Yeah I don't think they ever had any intention of making that character good, even with cons they would have just re-scaled her so she ends up at the same place.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 21:01 |
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She wouldn't be as bad if her little bomblets didn't have an internal cooldown on giving her stacks for her infused normals. Because they have that brief cooldown period to give stacks you can't shotgun enemies by vacuuming them with Jean. So Aloy is left to just scatter them on the ground and hope enemies run into them but not too quickly.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 21:06 |
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sushibandit posted:She's gimmicky and not all that good to begin with, especially compared to the other Cryo archers, and having no cons means there is no way to improve her mediocre performance aside from infinitely grinding artifacts, which is effort far better spent on better characters (like the other Cryo archers). Her being a supposed 5* doesn't help, neither does her signature bow only being given out / functional on Playstation. Yeah, I came back to Genshin after falling off it during its launch because of Aloy; I had just finished HZD for the first time thanks to Sony giving it away earlier that year, and then they made the announcement that she was coming to Genshin. I got her and didn't really have the material at the time to level her up, and by the time I did I had already figured out that she wasn't a good character for me. Plus, while I like her character art, I think Aloy's character model kinda sucks
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 21:34 |
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Because they have that brief cooldown period to give stacks you can't shotgun enemies by vacuuming them with Jean. I'm an aloy-liker and this is one of my favorite things to do with her in a team lol, I never realized that was why the infusion wouldn't consistently trigger though that hella sucks
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 21:57 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:c3 and c5 are literally just "number is higher" constellations??? Well yeah, if the number was less low then nobody would really care about costellations. Her burst damage build doesn't have, like, fundamental kit issues or anything. But since hoyo doesn't rebalance numbers straightforwardly, then cons are the most "likely" way to help her. Then her other cons could help her infuse more consistently, I dunno. I don't really care about onfielders too much.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 21:59 |
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Real Cool Catfish posted:0.1% of players still carrying the torch and using Aloy on floor 12. It's me, the 0.1% Probably could've done it without swapping teams, but the game insisted on giving me poo poo floor buffs and I got impatient.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:10 |
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Aloy's in a real bad state if people are wishing she had more constellations you could buy to make her stronger.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:11 |
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Regarding Honkai chat This final stretch of the main story with all 3 of the main girls getting their ultimate space princess forms and fighting the OG handsomeman Kevin who has gone from hero to antihero to antivillain over the course of the past 50,000 years or so and on the moon at that feels like a pitch for a modernized Sailor Moon sequel plot that never got picked up or something. Either that or Peak Shoujo plot.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:18 |
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RareAcumen posted:Aloy's in a real bad state if people are wishing she had more constellations you could buy to make her stronger.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:27 |
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No Wave posted:Buy? I want them for free! When has the game ever given any 5* character aside from the Traveller extra constellations for free?
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:29 |
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RareAcumen posted:Aloy's in a real bad state if people are wishing she had more constellations you could buy to make her stronger. I think people were more hoping for an event which involved Aloy (say a hunting event or something, but really anything which involved her being in the actual world rather than just your character page) which gave out constellations, like the event weapons where you get the weapon on the first stage and subsequent stages give out a consumable that can be used to refine it. I cant speak to how good or bad Aloy is to play because I'm only just getting round to grinding out the poo poo to level her, but I can say the reason* I've not bothered up til now is that if I want a cryo archer in my team I have other options who to my eyes bring more to the table. Dionna does cryo damage, and even if it turns out she's worse at cryo application than Aloy she also brings a shield and healing. I mean, I'm not pissed about it or anything, she was a freebie, but I did assume at the time there would be at least a brief event where she interacted with the traveler. *this was the main reason, the other reason was I entirely hosed up the mechanics of the cryo cube fight so it took ages and I hated it when I first played it, and it made me gunshy of fighting it for a character I wasnt excited to play. I've gone back to it now and its actually a really easy fight when you have a basic understanding of whats going on, a properly kitted out pyro dps and a zhongli to prevent damage, none of which I had the first time I fought it. Still never going to be my go to "knock this one out for the battle pass" boss fight, but fine.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:35 |
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RareAcumen posted:When has the game ever given any 5* character aside from the Traveller extra constellations for free? No Wave fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Feb 2, 2023 |
# ? Feb 2, 2023 22:49 |
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RareAcumen posted:When has the game ever given any 5* character aside from the Traveller extra constellations for free? No... but they give a free Xingqiu out every year, and I can't even imagine a meta where you would pick an Aloy con over an equivalent Xingqiu con. She very much isn't balanced like a 5 star, so there's no way they'd give her like a Raiden C2 or something.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 23:23 |
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Aloy should have had the tall female model. Genshin’s representation of her doesn’t really fit the Horizon games very well.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 23:25 |
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Tighnari feels quite a bit more like HZD combat in genshin. Which I guess is better because you get tighnari eventually no matter when you start.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 23:42 |
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No Wave posted:Tighnari feels quite a bit more like HZD combat in genshin. he absolutely does and it's probably why i like playing him so much although now that you mention it i wish his aggro-drawing allergy field stuck to the enemy it hits instead of just plopping down on the ground. and that it was aimed like an arrow.
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# ? Feb 2, 2023 23:44 |
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I just wanted to speak for a second about how much fun Genshin has been for my wife and I as a co-op but not co-op game. She just hit AR28 last night. We mostly have been spending a couple hours each night doing our own thing in game but then I'll pop over and we'll co-op some domains or ley lines. It's so nice being just chill and having fun with the game. She loves getting frequently sidetracked by collectables and treasure chests - an endless drip of dopamine. She doesn't have much in the way of characters - (Traveler, Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Noelle, Xiangling, Ningguang, Chongyun) but she's still having a blast. She's been holding back on wishes because I showed her Dehya and she liked the look of her. Though she is thinking of dropping some wishes on the upcoming banner to maybe potentially pick up Beidou and Xingqiu. Currently, her favorite two characters to play are Xiangling and Kaeya - but she hasn't touched Ningguang or Chongyun yet (as she was still in Mondstadt when she got those characters).
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 00:01 |
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slicing up eyeballs posted:I'm an aloy-liker and this is one of my favorite things to do with her in a team lol, I never realized that was why the infusion wouldn't consistently trigger though that hella sucks Yeah, for a while I was trying to do a normal attack build with kazuha and yelan but the infusion was so finicky. It's unfortunate
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 00:12 |
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Mordiceius posted:I just wanted to speak for a second about how much fun Genshin has been for my wife and I as a co-op but not co-op game. The good news is Xiangling, Kaeya, Xinqui is the solid foundation of a really good team. Beidou, Ninguang, or Chongyun could all be subbed in as the 4th for it.
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 00:24 |
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No Wave posted:Tighnari feels quite a bit more like HZD combat in genshin. Which I guess is better because you get tighnari eventually no matter when you start. I got Horizon for free a while back and had zero interest in playing it until I saw this post lmao One of these days.. Wow, congrats on finding the exact circumstance where Dehya is actually unironically pretty decent (multiplayer tank). I guess miracles do happen, sometimes
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 00:31 |
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MoonCrab posted:I got Horizon for free a while back and had zero interest in playing it until I saw this post lmao It's a really good game, although it almost wasn't; it was originally going to be much more focused on fighting humanoid enemies (who are boring as poo poo and basically just generic Ubisoft fare), with the machine-hunting aspects added relatively late in development (in particular, after a lot of the main story quest had already been implemented). But with the machine hunting, it has some of the best encounter and boss design I've ever seen in a video game.
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 00:35 |
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I would say that Horizon is a bit rough in that it is the developer’s first action rpg and it shows at points, but it does feel more cohesive the further you get. Overall it is very much worth playing. Anyway, I want to ask if i currently log in through Twitter, can I change that account to another login point? Because Musky Elon is going to charge people for using Twitter APIs and I am not sure I want to take chances with MiHoYo playing ball or not. EDIT: Okay, got it linked to a proper email and everything. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Feb 3, 2023 |
# ? Feb 3, 2023 02:17 |
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gently caress this pyramid is huge
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 04:56 |
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No Wave posted:Preliminary sketchy leaks suggest Baizhu is a non-healing shielder. Having messed around with Haitham a lot Haitham+Kuki+Xingqiu/Yelan+Zhongli is the easiest team of his to clear side 1 with so turning ZL into a dendro character that can carry Deepwood could be nice. Non-healing shielding catalyst support also says prototype amber really loud to me. I guess he just takes the idea that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure very seriously. FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Feb 3, 2023 |
# ? Feb 3, 2023 06:19 |
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I'm so loving tired of fighting the thunder manifestation.
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 06:48 |
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hosed up but true: finished the last few lantern rite things today, and running the battle stuff with an aggravate team is making me re-change my mind on pulling for Dehya lol. Quickburn with overloads is pretty fun, actually? Miko/Nahida/Dehya/(???). Who's the last slot? Another overloader? An anemo? Or maybe you need more dendro than that. I'll have to try Shinobu, Sayu, Yaoyao first, then non-healers if Dehya somehow ends up being enough sustain. AFK explosions team, lets go!
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 07:56 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 19:42 |
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Good thing I can always count on the internet having every bit of voiced dialogue in every language somewhere because I missed the first few days of the new event doing my own thing and didn't realize Lisa moves around based on server date and not player progress based on the day which they triggered the flag.
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# ? Feb 3, 2023 13:19 |