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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Turtle Watch posted:Wow this mlyp88 guy sure is struggling over these anti-personnel devices, you might say it’s a real ‘Mine Kampf’ 😎 lmao
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Feb 3, 2023 13:01
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Morning. I see we’ve moved to “the people who don’t like anti-personnel landmines and their harm to civilians are nazis” Good job. Truly showing your concern for civilians. This is a great thread response to me committing the act pointing out that it is bad for Ukraine to fire PFM-1s into an occupied city.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:34
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Posting nazis itt
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Feb 3, 2023 13:36
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I feel like off-route mines are freeloaders who don’t want to do the real work, you know?
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Feb 3, 2023 13:42
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mlmp08 posted:Morning. I see we’ve moved to “the people who don’t like anti-personnel landmines and their harm to civilians are nazis” Ukraine is allowed to defend itself
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Feb 3, 2023 13:44
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1621448414100869122?s=20
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Feb 3, 2023 13:45
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Feb 3, 2023 13:46
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NAFO is russiagate for euro normies, it's insane how many of those dumb dogs there are now
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Feb 3, 2023 13:49
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mlmp08 posted:Morning. I see we’ve moved to “the people who don’t like anti-personnel landmines and their harm to civilians are nazis” everyone makes fun of you because you constantly miss the point and this time conflated not agreeing on the veracity and impartiality of a source with having problem with the statement "I don't think anti-personnel mines are good". And everyone knows you're gonna go wild nitpicking whatever is said and no one will have the energy to highlight 45ish years of history of over reporting americas enemies crimes while under reporting americas crimes from an organization which is based in New York and was started specifically to keep track of the perceived crimes of the ussr. This time you literally voiced your perception of HRW as impartial because nafo types on twitter went wild at them when they did the bare minimum of "both sides" to retain their facade of impartiality. Do an autism questionnaire.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:51
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fanfic insert posted:Do an autism questionnaire. Thanks for the feedback!
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Feb 3, 2023 13:52
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mlmp is intellectually bankrupt, not autistic.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:53
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I don't mean to ableist, I'm almost certainly autistic myself, but a ton of your arguments with people is that you nitpick statements which everyone else correctly sees as unserious and overblown to prove a point or make a joke and all of it gets lost in what ultimately ends up being 15 paragraphs of "you said this, I said this".
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Feb 3, 2023 13:55
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Zodium posted:mlmp is intellectually bankrupt, not autistic. they can be both
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Feb 3, 2023 13:55
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I cant imagine why you'd think that a noble ukrainian pagan symbol and the amount of tanks germany is sending to be nazi adjacent also its terrible, we are all arguing in good faith with you, just like you do with us. No, we aren't taking a piss at your poo poo pedantic arguments that miss the point entirely.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:57
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Honest Thief posted:NAFO is russiagate for euro normies, it's insane how many of those dumb dogs there are now Yeah. As I see it with Wikileaks and later Snowden we saw the nadir of spook grip on the Western public and since then we've getting increasingly bigger productions. Getting mad at tankies that didn't want to invade Syria was kind of niche, but a lot of our NAFO friends got their start there. Then you got Russiagate that really managed to break a lot of mainstream brains. And now this war basically left no brain unbroken. Your formally completely normal colleague will drop the latest Bandera dog line as a completely uncontroversial topic. It's nuts.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:58
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If posters get mad about HRW when they point out “anti-personnel land mines are bad for civilians,” those posters are being hosed up assholes. They are preferring to shut down fighting against land mine use and harm to civilians for partisan “my team” reasons rather than simply agreeing with the idea that setting boobytraps and launching anyi-personnel mines is bad. Getting all pissed off that NGOs chastise militaries, and instead reflexively defending militaries using anti-personnel mines and harming civilians, is morally bankrupt and stupid team sports poo poo.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:58
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It may also be the mosquito borne West Point Virus.
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Feb 3, 2023 13:59
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Honest Thief posted:NAFO is russiagate for euro normies, it's insane how many of those dumb dogs there are now yah the gbs thread is all NAFO vibes, interesting to check out once in a while since syq are banned. they didnt seem to think the pay cuts for the military were that big of a deal. how is inflation in ukraine i wonder
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Feb 3, 2023 14:02
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Feb 3, 2023 14:05
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ITT, people coming together with NAFO twitter posters to both defend the honor and also try to deny accusations of armies employing anti-personnel land mines in residential areas. War brings out some of the wrong kind of unity in people.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:06
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fits my needs posted:yah the gbs thread is all NAFO vibes, interesting to check out once in a while since syq are banned. There’s a rumour the Ukrainian Army is being paid in bonds redeemable in 2024 but I don’t know how reliable that is
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Feb 3, 2023 14:06
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Honest Thief posted:NAFO is russiagate for euro normies, it's insane how many of those dumb dogs there are now its an iron law that us culture war poo poo will eventually spill over to europe and take an even dumber form somehow
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Feb 3, 2023 14:08
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drat this thing still going?
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Feb 3, 2023 14:08
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the long trek from poppies to shibe dogs
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Feb 3, 2023 14:09
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mlmp08 posted:If posters get mad about HRW when they point out “anti-personnel land mines are bad for civilians,” those posters are being hosed up assholes. They are preferring to shut down fighting against land mine use and harm to civilians for partisan “my team” reasons rather than simply agreeing with the idea that setting boobytraps and launching anyi-personnel mines is bad. No one got mad. Everyone agrees mines are bad but near everyone expected them to be used in a war between two near-peer armies. Whats annoying is that you take accusations against Russia with full blown seriousness, even when it comes from HRW which literally cites the Ukrainian government sources, which we know has just made poo poo up on numerous occasions, while downplaying any made against Ukraine. You yourself has a very clear and strong bias which is why everyone just stays away from the argument about why you shouldn't be taking this particular source at face value(not because of this war but because of your worldview in general) and instead makes jokes at your expense, you know, to bypass the nitpicking about this particular incident or report(especially when you resort to "OooOoOh so you love mines maiming children??"*), no one has energy to respond to it with the hundreds of cited sources needed to wrestle you out of your bias. *this is an exaggeration to make a point
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Feb 3, 2023 14:11
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mlmp08 posted:If posters get mad about HRW when they point out “anti-personnel land mines are bad for civilians,” those posters are being hosed up assholes. They are preferring to shut down fighting against land mine use and harm to civilians for partisan “my team” reasons rather than simply agreeing with the idea that setting boobytraps and launching anyi-personnel mines is bad. They should get a real job that's not just whining on the internet if they want to do something good.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:12
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mlmp08 posted:Morning. I see we’ve moved to “the people who don’t like anti-personnel landmines and their harm to civilians are nazis” have u considered not being such a landmine nazi?
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Feb 3, 2023 14:12
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fanfic insert posted:No one got mad. Everyone agrees mines are bad but near everyone expected them to be used in a war between two near-peer armies. There are posters straight up arguing that civilians and HRW are liars and cannot be trusted to faithfully report on land mine usage. That is some extreme bias to assume civilian victims and NGOs are lying about land mine usage, instead deflecting criticism and defending army employment of land mines. Not every civilian out there making claims like “the Russians boobytrapped residential areas” or “Ukraine fired anti-personnel mines into town” are spies and liars on the take. The majority are just civilians who are facing the brutality of armies i discriminately employing land mines. It suuuuucks when someone ignores them and instead goes full team sports where the only way to believe that an army uses land mines indiscriminately is if that army self-reports and tells on itself.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:17
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mlmp08 posted:There are posters straight up arguing that civilians and HRW are liars and cannot be trusted to faithfully report on land mine usage. If you had actually read the report about Russia you posted you would realize that there is not one claim of a civilian reporting a boobytrap in it.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:25
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Weka posted:If you had actually read the report about Russia you posted you would realize that there is not one claim of a civilian reporting a boobytrap in it. quote:Methodology Weka, come on. Civilian witnesses are utilized. https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/15/background-briefing-landmine-use-ukraine https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/media_2022/06/Background%20Breifing_LandminesUkraine_2022.pdf
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Feb 3, 2023 14:32
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mlmp08 posted:There are posters straight up arguing that civilians and HRW are liars and cannot be trusted to faithfully report on land mine usage. NGOs lies all the time and theres no way of knowing what character of civilian made the accusation so the information has no value, especially when the NGO was specifically created to keep track of the crimes of Americas enemies and has a history of under reporting US crimes. mlmp08 posted:Not every civilian out there making claims like “the Russians boobytrapped residential areas” or “Ukraine fired anti-personnel mines into town” are spies and liars on the take. No but because we know NGOs and governments lies and some civilians are straight up nazis with an actual material and perceptional benefit of telling lies it has no value to make moral judgements based on what a known biased NGO says happened in a warzone. "Residential areas" in terms of where the actual war front is has no meaning other than "blown apart buildings where there absolutely should not still be civilians". It's not "indiscriminately", it's "at the front of a war". mlmp08 posted:The majority are just civilians who are facing the brutality of armies i discriminately employing land mines. It suuuuucks when someone ignores them and instead goes full team sports where the only way to believe that an army uses land mines indiscriminately is if that army self-reports and tells on itself. Sure, but we're all already in agreement that the war loving sucks and should've been prevented in the first place so making moral judgements on which side is worse has no point which is why people rather make fun of you and call you a nazi -because you do these moral judgement posts based on poor sources- and then decries everyone else as baddies for something no one is/has said.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:32
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fanfic insert posted:"Residential areas" in terms of where the actual war front is has no meaning other than "blown apart buildings where there absolutely should not still be civilians". It's not "indiscriminately", it's "at the front of a war". I found one of our fundamental disagreements. It is among the reasons why I find it objectionable that Ukraine fired PFM-1s into Izium.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:35
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mlmp08 posted:Weka, come on. Civilian witnesses are utilized. https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/15/background-briefing-landmine-use-ukraine Click the [2] to [7]. All of it is attributed to SBU. e; changed the 5 to a 7 See that's a thing they do, they write a methodology summary which includes things they would theoretically do but in this case didn't so you have to actually read the full report to identify if they actually did do that specific part of the summary. This amounts to a lie if it's for the purpose of making a terribly biased source seem believable. No I'm not gonna read it and check if they actually did interview a civilian. fanfic insert has issued a correction as of 14:43 on Feb 3, 2023 |
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Feb 3, 2023 14:35
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mlmp08 posted:I found one of our fundamental disagreements. It is among the reasons why I find it objectionable that Ukraine fired PFM-1s into Izium. Sorry I might've conflated the "indiscriminately" to the Russian use of mines, I agree with that statement. But it's also clear that Russias use of mines is to cover their retreats, not to injure civilians as I would assume they as I would assume it's AFU that moves into the area immediately after their retreat and not children looking to dig around in the playground sandbox.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:38
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fanfic insert posted:Sorry I might've conflated the "indiscriminately" to the Russian use of mines, I agree with that statement. But it's also clear that Russias use of mines is to cover their retreats, not to injure civilians as I would assume they as I would assume it's AFU that moves into the area immediately after their retreat and not children looking to dig around in the playground sandbox. When armies retreat cities they have held under occupation or defense, there are still civilians around, and they know that. That is why I don’t like saying that it’s fine to set anti-personnel mines and deploy the mines into residential areas, even if someone argues that the civilians simply “shouldn’t be there” or whatever.
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Feb 3, 2023 14:41
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Russia Claims Gains in Battle for Bakhmut This part of an article from the Wall Street Journal paints a grim picture for Ukrainian forces defending Bakhmut. quote:Some Ukrainian soldiers are starting to question why they are being asked to fight for Bakhmut when the city is nearly surrounded and a retreat, at some point, appears inevitable. Additionally Russian forces continue to advance north from Soledar. https://twitter.com/rybar_en/status/1621318173025763328?s=20
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 e: lol what's up with these lego guys?  
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