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It's because Whedon is just enough of a dumb piece of poo poo to play on the supposed archetypes without any thought about the implications See also the Reavers being for all intents and purposes Savage Indians
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 15:55 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 15:39 |
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firefly mostly failed because they aired the episodes out of order
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 15:56 |
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Firefly is a much better live action Cowboy Bebop than whatever it was we got
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 15:58 |
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i couldnt get more than 30 minutes into firefly because of the awful sub-syfy original movie dialogue and acting
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:00 |
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FFT posted:my problem with Wakanda Forever so far is Namor introduces himself as "Namor" rhyming with the Spanish "amor" (because Spanish is how you communicate that this is an ancient South American-coded culture, you see) but afterwards everyone is still pronouncing it "nay-more" because that's how the name was always pronounced before his MCU appearance What the hell, nay-more? No one should be pronouncing it that way. It's obviously supposed to be Nah-mor. This is like pronouncing Magneto as Mag-netto instead of Mag-Neat-oh. Get a grip, yanks Ghost Leviathan posted:It's because Whedon is just enough of a dumb piece of poo poo to play on the supposed archetypes without any thought about the implications Reminder that Whedon wrote an episode where the sex worker gets kidnapped by the reavers and when the gang track her down to rescue her they find her on a ship surrounded by dead reavers, and it's heavily implied they died from raping her because she took a potion that made her vagina toxic.
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:01 |
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yanks wrote the comics
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:01 |
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Tankbuster posted:yanks wrote the comics They should learn to pronounce the names of the poo poo they wrote then
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:03 |
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Koirhor posted:Firefly is a much better live action Cowboy Bebop than whatever it was we got Shinichiro Watanabe said in an interview that he watched the first few mins of the Bebop screener he received from netflix and had to eject it immediately. quote:“For the new Netflix live-action adaptation, they sent me a video to review and check. It started with a scene in a casino, which made it very tough for me to continue. I stopped there and so only saw that opening scene. It was clearly not Cowboy Bebop and I realized at that point that if I wasn’t involved, it would not be Cowboy Bebop. I felt that maybe I should have done this. Although the value of the original anime is somehow far higher now.” imo Its a bit better than people think but there are absolutely many scenes that just destroy the seriousness or "coolness" of the show and kind of poison the whole thing I blame Joss Whedon
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:14 |
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McCloud posted:They should learn to pronounce the names of the poo poo they wrote then they made it up they can pronounce it any way they want.
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:21 |
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went and saw Knock at the Cabin yesterday and imo it was v mediocre. great acting, esp by bautista and the kid, and it looked great but idk, the story just wasn't there for me, and imo the ending wasn't great. i looked up the book plot after and i wish it woulda stayed closer to that ending...... but m night is not really like that i guess. i think spiritually it's his closest to Signs, but i had more fun watching Split and Old. anyway silver lining, i saw this bitchin bumper sticker in the parking lot, Sorcerer is incredible
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:39 |
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So far the only live action anime adaptation I have watched that I genuinely enjoyed and thought was fantastic is the Rurouni Kenshin trilogy. I recently tried watching the Fullmetal Alchemist movies and oooof no thanks
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:54 |
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FFT posted:my problem with Wakanda Forever so far is Namor introduces himself as "Namor" rhyming with the Spanish "amor" (because Spanish is how you communicate that this is an ancient South American-coded culture, you see) but afterwards everyone is still pronouncing it "nay-more" because that's how the name was always pronounced before his MCU appearance lol near the beginning the Wakandan AI alexa spots a drone spying on them and the independantly built student iron man suit can already communicate with wakandan communications
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:55 |
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:anyway silver lining, i saw this bitchin bumper sticker in the parking lot, Sorcerer is incredible
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McCloud posted:What the hell, nay-more? No one should be pronouncing it that way. It's obviously supposed to be Nah-mor. This is like pronouncing Magneto as Mag-netto instead of Mag-Neat-oh. Get a grip, yanks also in the movie it's made explicit that he took the name from the words of a spanish priest cursing him and therefore should rhyme with the spanish "amor" and literally no one but him and his people pronounce it as anything but nay-mor throughout the entire movie lol
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:04 |
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the cowboy bebop live action show has amazing set design and costumes. I don't hate the casting either but jfc there is just so much wrong with the dialogue and action
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:15 |
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lol wakanda forever has a part in haiti also lmao at a made up south american nation to overthrow yeah i'm not spoilering this poo poo
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:19 |
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thats right
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:52 |
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FFT posted:it was always nay-mor Solo-tier explanation lol
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 18:12 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiIRlg4Xr5w smh mushrooms don't make you feel big, they make you go fast
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 18:36 |
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McCloud posted:
Thats just the feminist strong female protagonist writing he got famous for
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 19:30 |
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Netflix are cowards
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:18 |
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My buddy has a netflix show and he told me something like they request that all the interesting stuff happen in the first 8.5 minutes because once people make it that far in they usually commit. so they want him to frontload every episode with his best plot beats. he said all the people at the top are business people with no film making /writing experience but they give notes on every show stuff like "this character speaks chinese, could they speak english?" but they already filmed it
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:22 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Is Firefly sort of Confederate apologia because it’s cribbing from a lot of classic westerns, so it’s an aesthetic / genre convention or is it ideological?
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:23 |
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Antonymous posted:My buddy has a netflix show and he told me something like they request that all the interesting stuff happen in the first 8.5 minutes because once people make it that far in they usually commit. so they want him to frontload every episode with his best plot beats. he said all the people at the top are business people with no film making /writing experience but they give notes on every show stuff like "this character speaks chinese, could they speak english?" but they already filmed it The director of Carter said something similar, had to open with a bang and a convoluted story to hook people immediately lest they change the channel
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:25 |
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yeah. It makes sense. it's just the opposite of 3000 years of western dramatic theory
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:26 |
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Antonymous posted:yeah. It makes sense. it's just the opposite of 3000 years of western dramatic theory Clearly we need to blame jaws and a new hope
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:27 |
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I am not a writer but, a new hope is one of the prototypical examples of perfectly following every dramatic structure beat
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:29 |
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If your story is about a single protagonist executing a single action and learning some kind of moral lesson, you have a distinct midpoint reversal and climax, you might be following western dramatic theory "Luke wants to save the princess, but at the midpoint discovers her planet no longer exists, so he must learn to trust in fate in order to defeat the empire that opposes her" that kinda poo poo. 95% of american movies do this (probably 90% of all movies) Antonymous has issued a correction as of 20:35 on Feb 5, 2023 |
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Marlin wants to find his son, but discovers the ocean is more dangerous than his fears anticipated, so he must learn to let go and trust other people to save both Nemo and Dory.
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:37 |
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Michael wants to let his family continue without him, but when he and his father are attacked, realizes only he has the mettle/sincere belief to save his family and take up the title of Godfather.
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:41 |
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max wants to be cool, but when he begins a bonding experience with his father he learns that he can be goofy as well
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:45 |
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tbh movies are partly bad now cause writer/directors want to buck that format. Like Barbarian's midpoint reversal is there's a woman under the house or w/e but that doesn't really change the character's trajectory its just pilling on more bullshit to deal with. Midpoint of silence of the lambs is when Starling starts to trust Lector and they do the quid pro quo. In the book I think this is the start of a romantic feeling between them. It's horrifying because it changes everything... Lector changes from antagonist to ally Hereditary and Psycho both kill the 'main character' in the midpoint which is so disorienting but both do a great job of the corpse mother in the attic somehow paying it off Antonymous has issued a correction as of 20:52 on Feb 5, 2023 |
# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:47 |
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please tviv the cosby special
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 21:22 |
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Antonymous posted:tbh movies are partly bad now cause writer/directors want to buck that format. Like Barbarian's midpoint reversal is there's a woman under the house or w/e but that doesn't really change the character's trajectory its just pilling on more bullshit to deal with. What are the beats that are forced to be in the movie format. Like the math formula. A crack dot com podcast explained that at 100 minute mark something big has to happen to keep the audience awake. edit: i think it's 60 minutes, I get time weird 60 minutes, seconds, 24 hours, stuff mixed up with base 10 number system mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Feb 5, 2023 |
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At the 100 minute mark most movies should be over!!
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Mantis42 posted:At the 100 minute mark most movies should be over!! Yeah that's a good time for credits, if not them already being over
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 21:32 |
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Mantis42 posted:At the 100 minute mark most movies should be over!! or was it the 60 minute mark? I'm looking for the podcast They mentioned the part the matrix where the aliens just randomly attacked the main characters in the tubes. https://www.cracked.com/podcast/why...a_ibsrc=fanpage mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 22:06 on Feb 5, 2023 |
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Mantis42 posted:At the 100 minute mark most movies should be over!!
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# ? Feb 5, 2023 21:34 |
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Years ago listening to We Hate Movies made me pick up a meteric of "Is this movie longer than Star Wars"" and does it need to be and I can think of few movies that have justified running longer than 130 minutes total
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# ? May 24, 2024 15:39 |
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so I was watching Honey, I Shrunk The Kids last night because I needed some media of which to be critical and I looked up the kid who played the neighbor who mows their lawn and there's a VERY detailed Wikipedia for him about how he got addicted to painkillers following a tonsillectomy and then went to prison for robbing a bunch of drug stores for pills and then died of a heroin overdose while in jail. like every detail has a citation with a link to a news story (some of them wayback archives). It was such a strange trove of detailed information about a person I never think about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Steven
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