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Owlbear Camus posted:I am normal and can be trusted to modify stereolithography files in a normal way. What the gently caress
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Rorahusky posted:'Mechs like the Valkyrie are always in this weird place. In universe, their purpose makes complete and total sense. They're harasser and skirmisher units, meant to show up, lob LRMs at an opponent to cause some damage and rattle nerves before pulling back. They don't need a huge number of reloads, just enough to make a pain of themselves before they flee back to friendly lines, and they'll almost never kill anything unless they either pick on something badly damaged or get an amazing TAC that instantly kills a foe.
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General Battuta posted:What the gently caress Garcher's gonna TAC that pan of lasagna after the battle. Arquinsiel posted:A lot of the original 55 ton mediums fit into this niche too. They make perfect sense when you're expecting to run up to a convoy, ding a few AC-5 rounds into a slow-moving APC or truck at range, and then run off again. Most everything with an AC/2 makes perfect sense if they're going to be shooting at deuce-and-a-half transport trucks or other unarmored logistics vehicles. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Feb 4, 2023 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:Most everything with an AC/2 makes perfect sense if they're going to be shooting at deuce-and-a-half transport trucks or other unarmored logistics vehicles.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:The AS box is really good if you like a game in a box. The literal only problem I can see is that theres no tape measure, and you cant create any of the clan star formations with the mechs in the box. I think. The two scenarios are great teaching ones (start with forests, add buildings and Battlefield support later). It's awesome, a top level product. They're coming out with a "tokens + buildings" release: https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Alpha_Strike_Counters_Pack
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Arquinsiel posted:Since I now own a Blackjack figure thanks to the lance packs I decided to try one out in 3025 ATB campaigns. Turns out the AC-2 is actually a pretty solid way to ding conventional fighters out of the sky or knock the air out of a hovercraft's skirts, and suddenly my Blackjack pilot has about three times the kills of anyone else. The existence of flying vehicles and flak ammo do a lot to justify the AC/2 existing. At least, until the LB-2X comes out, then it shouldn't exist.
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Can't believe foldable cardstock for buildings never occurred to me. There goes my weekend.
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Arquinsiel posted:A lot of the original 55 ton mediums fit into this niche too. They make perfect sense when you're expecting to run up to a convoy, ding a few AC-5 rounds into a slow-moving APC or truck at range, and then run off again. Yeah, the fact that the game typically involves balanced forces slugging it out to the death makes a lot of weapons and roles useless. Goals that are not typically explored in the board game would make a lot of weapons far more useful. You don't require a lot of firepower to halt a convoy or mechanized infantry division, which is what light and medium mechs with light autocannons and small LRM racks would be good at. So many mechs are so much more useful when the goal is to hit conventional targets and fade before a real response can be formed. In the (unfortunately real, and not fictional) war in Ukraine, the initial Russian advance towards Kyiv was heavily hindered by special forces troops with AT weapons mounted on fast, light vehicles hitting vehicles that were confined to the roads due to muddy conditions, halting columns of troops. A lot of BattleMechs traditionally considered to be kind of crappy like the Valkyrie, Shadow Hawk, Clint, Vulcan, Whitworth, and other similar designs would be king poo poo at that kind of fighting. They'd be more visible than special forces but faster and even less hindered by terrain, and with higher-powered, longer ranged weapons.
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No matter how they try to dress it up as military operations, BT tabletop is basically team robot deathmatch.
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I'm fine with petty nobles fielding specialized heavy platforms for jousting and intimidation purposes
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I got my hands on a copy of "Elements of Treason: Opportunity" and... I really like Duke Vedet Brewer. He went from an ambitious, mustache-twirler to a 3-dimensional character with a surprising amount of depth. I actually want to root for the Vesper Marches. This is probably the best IlClan I've read just because of all the characterization of this one Dark Age guy. Crazy Joe Wilson fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Feb 5, 2023 |
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I wouldn't say I like him but it did a good job explaining why people would follow him. He's very effective at identifying what people need to hear and telling it to them. But at the same time, it also makes sure to remind you that he is still not a very good dude, through him lying (by omission) to his daughter about how he was working for both sides.
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Making more official releases of tanks, APCs, mobile artillery (!), infantry and vehicles would really sell the point of dedicated hit and run mechs. Right now there haven’t been any official plastics (unless I’m mistaken) for anything but mechs. Having those options might change play styles. I’d certainly run a caravan of tanks with a set goal against a lance on a given map, and more so if that map has roads. All I gotta do is make the destination and take pot shots? I’ll play it. To really make this work, map diversity would be key. Diverging roads with rough terrain, dispersed woods, terrain changes and the like to give cost/benefit decisions at the beginning of missions would really add to this.
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You want some plastic tanks? APCs? Mobile artillery?!?!?! Have I got the Kickstarter for you...
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Oh I know, but we’ve had over a decade of mech only plastics for like no reason.
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I would love new good minis of conventional vehicles but that doesn't prevent me from being an avid user of them
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Oh I know, but we’ve had over a decade of mech only plastics for like no reason. The reason is that a huge majority of players use mechs only. There was a survey a while back (along with the beta for BattleMech Manual) and while I've never seen the actual numbers myself we've been told on a couple occasions that mech only was far and away the most common way to play. The impression I get is that we're taking 80+%. No matter how much I like tanks and ASF, that's not "no reason". It's where the money is.
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I just wanna be clear that these mech-only players are inferior and the rest of us look down on them. Carry on
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flechs sheets doesn't support non-bipedals yet and thusly, to our group, there exist no rules for playing them
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Sorry for ruining it for the rest of you, but I'm not playing the Mech fighting game so I can push hovercrafts around PS. I don't mind if my opponents do, it's funny when their tracks break PPS. I will also run elementals
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All I’m hearing is “it’s super cool when folks bring something other than a mech to the table.” It’s not 1994 anymore. The world has changed.
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I have to wonder how many more folks are playing elementals now that there’s an easy way to buy plastic models compared to before the Clan Invasion Box.
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SkyeAuroline posted:I can believe it would be, I just detest everything about the Crusaders I've played with (the intro tech variants - double sinks probably save it) in Classic. Too hot, too explosive, secondary armament suffers for being leg mounted... The CRD-6T is a pure energy variant, which takes care of the sploding problem. Those S-tier MWO builds are lasvom (mix of large pulse, ER medium and normal small lasers) or snub PPCs and small lasers. Main drawback is most of the DPS is in the arms, but that fixes the "secondary armament in legs" issue. They do run hot, but double heatsinks and an XL 350 engine help with that a lot, as does Coolshot (a consumable that offers rapid cooling for a brief period of time, which you can use up to twice per match).
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Kesper North posted:The CRD-6T is a pure energy variant What THE gently caress IS THAT loving ABORTION OF A CRUSADER
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If it’s not going up in a towering ammunition explosion the instant someone looks at it funny is it even really a Crusader?
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Dr. Lunchables posted:I have to wonder how many more folks are playing elementals now that there’s an easy way to buy plastic models compared to before the Clan Invasion Box. Aside from how you don't need models to use a unit, using models for infantry sucks rear end. I have a bunch of models that I never actually use in practice. I primarily use anti-mech jump rifle infantry and jump 3 or 4 BA, deployed from helicopters to do leg attacks. Since they end up in the same hex as another unit so much - while jumping out of the chopper and obviously while performing leg attacks - it's a lot easier to use a cardboard token that fits under the hex of a model. Like okay, you can put the infantry of to the side and remember it's in the same hex as a mech. But then that starts to get worse if you have a chaotic melee with lots of units clustered together. Which happens a lot in my games because I like close combat and so do my typical opponents.
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Defiance Industries posted:What Canon! Made by Kallon Industries.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:flechs sheets doesn't support non-bipedals yet and thusly, to our group, there exist no rules for playing them The dude’s working on it, actually!
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Newest ilClan Rec Guide is out. Returning units is a Savannah Master upgrade with an ER Medium Laser and Reflective Armor, good for countering those Pulse Boats, a basic upgrade to the Manticore that has an ERPPC, Streak 6, Medium Laser, and Enhanced LRM10 with a Targeting Comp, an upgrade to the Behemoth with Gauss Rifles and RL10s, a Javelin with Clan SRM6s, Tag, and an 8/12/8 movement profile, Clint with Reflective Armor, LBX5, and twin Medium X-Pulses, a clan Shogun with twin LRM15s, twin ATM6s, and an ERPPC w/Cap, and a mixedtech Pillager with twin Clan LBX20s with IS ER Large and Medium Lasers. New designs is the Harrier Hovertank with a Large RE-Laser, Medium Laser, and Streak 6, and the Callisto BA which comes in two flavors: The Ghost Bear version with a hard mounted ER Medium Laser in the shoulder and a modular mount on the arm that can swap between a Bearhunter, ER Micro, or Heavy MG, and a Wolf version that hard mounts an ER Small in the arm, and has a modular mount on the shoulder that can swap between a Medium Recoilless Rifle or an SRM4.
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smug jeebus posted:Sorry for ruining it for the rest of you, but I'm not playing the Mech fighting game so I can push hovercrafts around Defiance Industries posted:What BattleMaster posted:Like okay, you can put the infantry of to the side and remember it's in the same hex as a mech. But then that starts to get worse if you have a chaotic melee with lots of units clustered together. Which happens a lot in my games because I like close combat and so do my typical opponents.
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Dr. Lunchables posted:I have to wonder how many more folks are playing elementals now that there’s an easy way to buy plastic models compared to before the Clan Invasion Box. Gonna use mine as generic battle armor. Well, most of them. One of them got done in clan JF colors, and is currently serving as a footstool for one of my timber wolves 
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PoptartsNinja posted:The very earliest novels are pretty rough at times and a lot of the setting bible stuff didn't really get filled in until later. The Gray Death books, The Sword and the Dagger, the Warrior Trilogy, and Wolves on the Border were all being written around the same time and there's definite collaboration but BattleTech's four earliest authors weren't sharing every detail with one another about how they thought everything worked. The Gray Death books were my favorite, and the earliest BT-novels I've ever read. For some reason our library only had the second and third books of the trilogy, and especially the second book was burned into my memory, because the German translation came with this weird, but impressive blueprint/line drawing of a Marauder as a cover. If I remember the details correctly (it has been a while since my last re-read), Grayson at the end of Mercenary's Star only manages to hijack the marauder because the techs disabled the security systems (either mostly or all of it, I don't remember) and Grayson then, because of the misaligned neuro helmet, fought so badly the bad guy warhammer dueling him only goes down after a lucky crit cracks the gyro. In hindsight, that's a lot of writing groundwork to make the events of Grayson's escape seem more plausible. In most other cases, I'm willing to give protagonists some leeway, since most stories would suck if the protagonist doesn't successfully steal the mech to escape, and instead just gets shot in the back of the head after failing to unlock the security system for the 99th time in a row 
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Okay, I feel like I might be high here. It's not normal for injection molded plastic to have visible 3D print striations on major surfaces, right? (Orion from the Direct Fire lance) Because this isn't even the first CGL mini they've shown up on.
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It depends on the master that the mold was made from, or even the machining that was done to make the mold.
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My Orions definitely don't have that issue. You might have been "lucky" enough to get a factory prototype.
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So what's up with the base model Marauder II having CASE in a torso with nothing that benefits from it?
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Or future-proofing. They were anticipating the weight of the Gauss Rifle dropping as the technology was refined and wanted to make sure the SLDF could field refit to one if that ever happened. It's not the worst gently caress-up on an official record sheet. I think that prize still goes to the Von Luckner's rear-mounted LRMs.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Or future-proofing. I mean, they weren't wrong, I guess? Just that said reduction in size and weight only occurred after the Star League vomited blood all over and died.
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TheKingslayer posted:So what's up with the base model Marauder II having CASE in a torso with nothing that benefits from it? Theres a genuine swarm of weird 3049 era mechs that have CASE shoved into xl mechs or mechs with no real help from it that I love. I assume they are all supposed to be battlefield refits or engineers trying to panic fit as much lostech as they can into line mech units now that it's plentiful again.
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