[Asia/Oceania] Yellen says she hopes China wont mount retaliation against any steps Washington takes

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Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Mantis42 posted:

holy poo poo the democrat response is literally going to be "there were actually more chinese balloons under trump"

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1622093115858505728?s=20

More like "Why didn't the democrats turn themselves stupidly and quite loudly crazy over it, pretending it was super serious when it's not, like good republicans?"

# ? Feb 5, 2023 11:28

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# ? May 24, 2024 20:00

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Oneiros posted:

trump was always the lesser evil

Wait what does that make the Tprum thread?

# ? Feb 5, 2023 11:30

Oneiros: Jan 12, 2007

Ardennes posted:

Wait what does that make the Tprum thread?

unfortunate

# ? Feb 5, 2023 11:31

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu5a0Bl8eY

# ? Feb 5, 2023 11:54

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

let a hundred balloons float, let a hundred schools of blimps compete

# ? Feb 5, 2023 12:27

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

holy poo poo the democrat response is literally going to be "there were actually more chinese balloons under trump"

https://twitter.com/l337haxors/status/1622059527402053633

# ? Feb 5, 2023 12:37

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

thank you trump for not doing dumb balloon poo poo and instead pwning highschoolers/police officers/etc

# ? Feb 5, 2023 12:37

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/china-s-influence-in-asia-plummets-as-australia-gains-on-russia-20230205-p5chzc.html

quote:

China�s influence in Asia suffered a sharp decline over the past year as the country turned inward during the COVID-19 pandemic, allowing the United States to cement its status as the most powerful nation in the region.

The Lowy Institute�s latest Asia Power Index, released late on Sunday night, found China registered the largest decline in comprehensive power of any country in the region in 2022 because of its tough coronavirus border closures and lockdown rules.

While most nations recorded declines in influence, the institute found Australia was less affected by the pandemic than any other middle power and is within striking difference of overtaking Russia as the fifth most powerful nation in Asia.

I think we may be more delusional than americans

# ? Feb 5, 2023 12:43

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/china-s-influence-in-asia-plummets-as-australia-gains-on-russia-20230205-p5chzc.html

I think we may be more delusional than americans

Lmao, that's some brain at work.

# ? Feb 5, 2023 12:45

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

good guy donald let the balloons frolic freely through the sky

scumbag joe had an innocent balloon assassinated in public

# ? Feb 5, 2023 12:47

Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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quote:

The Lowy Institute�s latest Asia Power Index, released late on Sunday night, found China registered the largest decline in comprehensive power of any country in the region in 2022 because of its tough coronavirus border closures and lockdown rules.

ah yes, the completely collapsed china in 2022 with a 30% overall increase in trade surplus yoy

# ? Feb 5, 2023 13:01

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Look up the Lowy Institute on Wikipedia lol

# ? Feb 5, 2023 13:12

Woke Mind Virus: Aug 22, 2005

Mantis42 posted:

holy poo poo the democrat response is literally going to be "there were actually more chinese balloons under trump"

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1622093115858505728?s=20

Was there something wrong with this one that made it low enough to see from the ground? Got a hard time believing there were 3 like this one in the past

# ? Feb 5, 2023 13:47

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Maybe those 3 balloons only flew over bum gently caress Alaska.

# ? Feb 5, 2023 13:50

Zedhe Khoja: Nov 10, 2017; sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/china-calls-on-imf-to-support-sri-lanka-urgently-with-bailout

IMF needs to do their traditional role and China needs to stop complicating the financing with their demands for having the rest of the world cover their losses

# ? Feb 5, 2023 14:41

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

stephenthinkpad posted:

Maybe those 3 balloons only flew over bum gently caress Alaska.

Maybe the balloons were named Mueller, Steel and Avenatti and those self-exploded already?

# ? Feb 5, 2023 15:22

Hazamuth: May 9, 2007; the original bugsy

Imagine four balls at the edge of the airspace

# ? Feb 5, 2023 16:47

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/armanddoma/status/1621971518086602753

Taliban... NOT for the win?

# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:37

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

Taliban... NOT for the win?

taLIBan

# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:49

Tankbuster: Oct 1, 2021

this reactionary group can't even begin to solve the contradictions of capitalism...wild!

# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:53

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/armanddoma/status/1621971518086602753

Taliban... NOT for the win?

# ? Feb 5, 2023 17:53

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

Zedhe Khoja posted:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-03/china-calls-on-imf-to-support-sri-lanka-urgently-with-bailout

IMF needs to do their traditional role and China needs to stop complicating the financing with their demands for having the rest of the world cover their losses

lol that poster is an unhinged scumbag

# ? Feb 5, 2023 18:19

Zedhe Khoja: Nov 10, 2017; sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

please, no one else here has as much invested in the social benefits of a newly "flexible" labor market in southern asia as the worldly well-traveled business class sickos. we should really learn to listen more

# ? Feb 5, 2023 18:27

Fleetwood: Mar 26, 2010; biggest hochul head in china

stephenthinkpad posted:

Maybe those 3 balloons only flew over bum gently caress Alaska.

maybe the balloons are what set off the nuke alarm in Hawaii

# ? Feb 5, 2023 18:37

Fortaleza: Feb 21, 2008

Hope whichever project that is now missing their meteorological data sends up another one

# ? Feb 5, 2023 19:06

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

maybe with a stern note attached this time

# ? Feb 5, 2023 19:20

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1622142158471069697

the balloon gap

edit:
https://twitter.com/TripInChina/status/1621943168374657026

# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:16

KomradeX: Oct 29, 2011

i say swears online posted:

maybe with a stern note attached this time

Put a big sign on it that says I'm a weather ballon, not a spy ballon in 50 languages

# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:18

uber_stoat: Jan 21, 2001; Pillbug

the balloon warfare revolution is nigh. thousands of balloons take flight with one malign goal: ending freedom forever

# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:29

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

it is at times like these that we must be grateful for the general national psychosis that holds america in its iron grip, for without it we would never get this kind of Content

# ? Feb 5, 2023 20:36

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Id be depressed and regretful if I moved to the uk for sure
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/hongkong-uk-adaptation-02052023121250.html

quote:

Tens of thousands of Hong Kongers struggle to adapt to life in the UK: survey

Two years after the British government announced a citizenship pathway for Hong Kong holders of the colonial-era British National Overseas passport, tens of thousands of people are struggling to adapt to their new lives in the United Kingdom after fleeing political repression at home, a new survey has found.

More than 70% of respondents said they had emigrated there on their BNO passports due to "the political environment in Hong Kong," or "considerations of freedom/personal safety," the survey by U.K.-based Hong Kong news site The Chaser and the educational organization Citizens of Our Time Learning Hub found.

The British government says 144,500 people have emigrated to the United Kingdom on its BNO visa scheme, which includes a pathway to permanent residency and citizenship, since its launch in 2021, prompting retaliation from Beijing.

But around 30% of the 140,000 people who have taken advantage of the BNO route so far said they are still struggling to make a new life in the country.

More than half said they still need help "understanding British social, political, and economic systems" as well as "local culture and way of life," the report found.

Nearly half said they are in strong need of help "integrating into the local community," suggesting that while many have a strong desire to settle down and integrate, they haven't yet managed it, according to the survey, with 30% saying they "haven't yet adapted to life in the U.K."

Finding jobs, speaking English

Finding jobs and improving their English-language skills were among the highest priorities for many, while 18.5% said they are struggling to meet basic living expenses, the survey found, adding that some said they had been forced to leave in a hurry due to "rapid political changes," and without adequate preparation.

Many have been hampered financially by the refusal of Hong Kong officials to allow them to withdraw funds from their mandatory government pension fund, it said.

Many respondents cited key moments in the 2019 protest movement as "worthy of commemoration," including the July 21, 2019, attacks by white-clad mobsters on passengers and passers-by at Yuen Long MTR, the Aug. 31 attack by riot police on passengers at Prince Edward MTR and the June 12 occupation of the Legislative Council in response to government plans to allow extradition of alleged criminal suspects to mainland China.

Their responses suggest that the 2019 protests, the police handling of which sparked widespread international criticism, were uppermost in people's minds when it came to their political identity, the report said.

"The ... people who migrated from Hong Kong to the U.K. over the past two years mainly left Hong Kong for political reasons,� former public opinion pollster Chung Kim-wah told Radio Free Asia. "Adults have adapted well, and many of them are actively involved in British society."

"We can see that many share concerns over finding a job, learning more about British culture and history, and improving their English," Chung said. "But at the same time, they haven't forgotten Hong Kong, and ... are still very concerned about news out of Hong Kong."

Financial support available

While the British government has invested nearly �50 million in its welcome program for incoming Hong Kongers since April 2021, which includes English courses and "poverty support" from local councils, the survey found that just under half of respondents lacked awareness of the financial support that was on offer.

Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick was keen to show the program in a positive light.

"We continue to take action to uphold our moral and historic commitment to the people of Hong Kong, and I feel particularly proud when I hear the stories and witness the incredible contributions Hong Kongers are already making to our local communities and to our economy," Jenrick said in a promotional video to mark the second anniversary of the BNO visa scheme.

ENG_CHN_HongKongBNO_02022023.2.jpg
Protesters against the new national security law gesture with five fingers, signifying the "Five demands � not one less," July. 1, 2020. Fear created by the national security law continues to take its toll on nearly a quarter of Hong Kongers who emigrated to Britain. Credit: Associated Press

He said recent BNO migrants had volunteered to help refugees from Afghanistan and Ukraine, gotten jobs in the National Health Service or teaching in schools, as well as "powering our economy forward" by working in the private sector.

But the picture painted by the survey was rather more complex.

More than half of recent BNO migrants are families with children in school, and these respondents cited concerns about their children's ability to adapt to a new learning environment as well as worries that they could lose touch with their own heritage as Hong Kongers, the survey found.

It said many with older children would likely be required to pay much higher international rates when their children went to university, only people with indefinite leave to remain under immigration rules are eligible for the lower rates.

Feelings of guilt

In a comments section at the end of the survey, many respondents said they felt guilty about leaving, and abandoning their "comrades in arms," some of whom were now in prison for their part in the 2019 protest movement.

Around 170 of the 460 respondents left positive comments on the more recent survey about enjoying greater rights and freedoms, as well as legal protection, in the U.K., while just over 180 left comments describing problems like loneliness, the British weather, short winter days and the language barrier.

Participants were over 16 years of age and held a BNO visa, or settled in the U.K. because their family members did.

A May 2022 report found that nearly one in four Hongkongers who fled the ongoing political crackdown under the ruling Chinese Communist Party still suffered from symptoms of post-traumatic stress syndrome linked to police violence during the 2019 protests and the subsequent fear engendered by the national security law.

The survey of recently arrived migrants by the Hongkongers in Britain group found that 23.8% of respondents reported symptoms of PTSD linked to the 2019 protests and subsequent political crackdown, while nearly 19% reported symptoms of depression and 25.8% reported symptoms of anxiety disorders.

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In Training: Jun 28, 2008

How do you get PTSD from protests? I thought nobody died during the 2019 HK events

# ? Feb 5, 2023 22:45

atelier morgan: Mar 11, 2003; super-scientific, ultra-gay; Lipstick Apathy

Tankbuster posted:

this reactionary group can't even begin to solve the contradictions of capitalism...wild!

# ? Feb 5, 2023 22:50

Tankbuster: Oct 1, 2021

The PDPA could have fixed it...

# ? Feb 5, 2023 22:51

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

KomradeX posted:

What is the proportional response to this besides being dumb founded. Like after you're done laughing and realizing they spent millions to shoot down a weather ballon what do you say to your counterpart at the State Department?

I feel like the best response would be "We're glad our wayward balloon was safely taken down. Congratulations to the pilot who got the first F22 air-to-air kill in the history of the airplane."

# ? Feb 5, 2023 23:15

Orbis Tertius: Feb 13, 2007

sooo weird that they�d opt to blow the balloon and its gear to hell instead of attempting to get it to ground with minimal damage, given all that super secret Chinese spy tech that was most assuredly on board.

hope no one got trepanned by a smol chunk of solar panel going 100mph or whatever that terminal velocity is.

# ? Feb 5, 2023 23:55

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

In Training posted:

How do you get PTSD from protests? I thought nobody died during the 2019 HK events

They bricked a bystander old grandpa to death by accident....also a protector jumped over a fence in a completely empty parking lot and fell to death from 3rd floor.

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Throatwarbler: Nov 17, 2008; by vyelkin

they also burned another elderly bystander alive.

# ? Feb 6, 2023 00:36

Telluric Whistler: Sep 14, 2008

In Training posted:

How do you get PTSD from protests? I thought nobody died during the 2019 HK events

I mean if you're a university educated email job haver, getting tear gassed or water cannoned might be the most traumatic thing ever, and a lot of the folks I knew from the protests or who have taken the BNO offer are like that. A lot of the BNO leavers I knew were huge Twitter poo poo posters who were convinced that their low engagement tweets were going to get them disappeared

In addition to what the posters said above there was the one kid who got shot and another person who lost an eye to a tear gas canister.

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Moving to collapsing racist country as naive entitled pricks?

How could the seeseepee ever recover from this enormous ownage

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