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Justin Tyme posted:RLM nailed nu-trek by explaining that the characters of nu-trek are very unprofessional thus giving the whole show an unserious air. Hemmer was the best character in SNW because he was a strict professional unlike the quippy smartass captain or teenager crewmen. yeah. this along with Kurtzman being a plagiarist hack made SNE extremely mediocre at best
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Also I'm of the opinion shorter season orders (SNW was like 10? episodes) sort of spoils what makes classic trek so good. When you've got to pad out a season for 25-some episodes you really rely on the writing to carry you instead of big setpieces or special effects, some of the best TNG episodes took place on like two or three sets involving four characters.
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Ardennes posted:Would anyone consider: Vovager, Enterprise, Discovery, Picard, or Strange New Worlds watchable if you had no idea what Trek was? I've never seen a star trek other than first contact. I can recognize picard and riker and janaway from osmosis but couldn't tell you about tonal differences between the various incarnations
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Justin Tyme posted:Also I'm of the opinion shorter season orders (SNW was like 10? episodes) sort of spoils what makes classic trek so good. When you've got to pad out a season for 25-some episodes you really rely on the writing to carry you instead of big setpieces or special effects, some of the best TNG episodes took place on like two or three sets involving four characters. It's shorter seasons but we're getting like 30 to 50 episodes of Star Trek a year at the moment. Lower Decks and SNW don't have a ton of big set pieces. Even Discovery has episodes of (mostly Michael) a few characters interacting with others. Anyway, DS9 is still best, but the new Trek hate gets tiresome. There's lovely episodes in the totality of what we get in a year, and there's good ones. The ratio doesn't seem all that different than the old shows, but it doesn't help that most of the really bad is concentrated in a show or two.
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Ardennes posted:Would anyone consider: Vovager, Enterprise, Discovery, Picard, or Strange New Worlds watchable if you had no idea what Trek was? drat this is a great question, SNW I'd say yes because it's got whedon-rear end dialogue and fancy special effects that gives it broader appeal (to the detriment of being watered down as a "star trek" show), the rest though, probably not
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Ardennes posted:Would anyone consider: Vovager, Enterprise, Discovery, Picard, or Strange New Worlds watchable if you had no idea what Trek was? SNW yeah. Voyager, not so much. Picard, no. I kind of did watch Discovery with minimal experience with the franchise, and it was fun, just stupid too. I tend to have low standards though when spaceships are involved (except if they are in the Stars fighting Wars).
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Nichael posted:It's shorter seasons but we're getting like 30 to 50 episodes of Star Trek a year at the moment. Lower Decks and SNW don't have a ton of big set pieces. Even Discovery has episodes of (mostly Michael) a few characters interacting with others. I do like Lower Decks as its own thing, and the argument we're getting more episodes in aggregate makes sense. I suppose it's just me being cranky about "generic 2010-2020's quippy detached irony fiction writing" in general.
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Starfleet going from an age of sail navy in space to a bullshit twee email job in space would be funny if it was deliberate commentary instead of totally unaware.
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Frosted Flake posted:Starfleet going from an age of sail navy in space to a bullshit twee email job in space would be funny if it was deliberate commentary instead of totally unaware. I don't see how it's not the former still in Prodigy, Lower Decks, and SNW. Prodigy's entire plot is outsider kids becoming the best version of themselves through applying the Federation's ideology and Starfleet's procedures to their lives.
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Justin Tyme posted:RLM nailed nu-trek by explaining that the characters of nu-trek are very unprofessional thus giving the whole show an unserious air. Hemmer was the best character in SNW because he was a strict professional unlike the quippy smartass captain or teenager crewmen. its funny that in tng it takes a full 7 years for picard to even consider relaxing, slightly, while off duty, around his top crew
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mastershakeman posted:its funny that in tng it takes a full 7 years for picard to even consider relaxing, slightly, while off duty, around his top crew the one time he tried singing a shanty in the lounge everyone thought "drat something is up captain is acting weird"
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Justin Tyme posted:the one time he tried singing a shanty in the lounge everyone thought "drat something is up captain is acting weird" he's having fun, we need to mutiny! is a great example of what star fleet used to be
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Nichael posted:... https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SentimentalDizzyKentrosaurus-mobile.mp4 I've recently started a re-watch of DS9, Season 1. I love it. The characters are so good.
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Some Guy TT posted:plz repost i want to see it Twitter thread starts here https://twitter.com/CIA/status/1025051074028351488?t=gwjtkRve-423b7KgCsbm2Q&s=19
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McCloud posted:Twitter thread starts here Operation Pantherclip
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theflyingexecutive posted:it's just like how dga rules dictate that the director can't direct the action of individual background actors, but they can absolutely tell the assistant directors to do so For the record this hasn't been a DGA rule for a long time. But any director worth their salt mostly lets the ADs do it.
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McCloud posted:Twitter thread starts here Wakanda Forever Fever
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El Diablo Bob O posted:https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SentimentalDizzyKentrosaurus-mobile.mp4 First few seasons are ok but when Worf shows up in Season 4 and starts demolishing everyone's poo poo it really takes off.
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Zeroisanumber posted:First few seasons are ok but when Worf shows up in Season 4 and starts demolishing everyone's poo poo it really takes off. worf pretty much turns into the rebirth of Kahless when he gets on DS9
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RandolphCarter posted:it was nice that worf started sucking less when he got to ds9 he still got punked by Gowron on the reg
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reactionaries are terrified of dorky theater kid poo poo.
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TNG and DS9 are decent Orville desperately wants to be TNG but Seth McFarlane can't stop doing his shtick and there's a bunch of poo poo jokes and obvious caricatures Discovery is spotty, it's got some good stuff and some poo poo. Picard is absolute trash Lower Decks is fun if you've watched way too much trek since it's all references SNW I haven't watched much yet
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i only need to consume DS9 once every two years. DS9 is star trek at 30. The peak of what Trek can be, with nowhere to go but down. everything else is the midlife crisis, senility, and undeath of the franchise
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Buck Wildman posted:lower decks is genuinely funny if a little saccharine at times lower decks is the most fun when they go back to the planets that were visited during TOS and TNG just to find that the pat solution that the Enterprise came up with at the time came unraveled almost immediately. That and the entire vault of comically evil AIs.
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Buck Wildman posted:lower decks is genuinely funny if a little saccharine at times probably why it captures the spirit of trek the best of the new properties. Merging the idealism of trek into a show that could get made these days would have to lean that way.
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commander leslie knope
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Laterite posted:at this point i will happily take earnest and saccharine over grimdark or glib whedon monkeycheese the problem with this is that Ted Lasso also sucks
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Zisky posted:For the record this hasn't been a DGA rule for a long time. But any director worth their salt mostly lets the ADs do it. true, the dga won't step in but sag will definitely shoot off a grievance for it, so the line producers and upms (in NY at least) act like it's still a rule
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Filthy Hans posted:he still got punked by Gowron on the reg Doesn't Worf kill Gowron for being dishonable little bitch or sometbjng its been too long since I watched DS9. I will not pay for Parmount+
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