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Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Re: bog butter, if you still doubt it's a real thing, here's an article about a huge chunk of it they found a few years ago that's estimated to be 2000 years old.

https://www.archaeology.org/news/4526-160609-ireland-bog-butter

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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Buttercoins

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
When you think about it, those buried chests we constantly find of Roman coins that were buried by Josephus McToga and then were lost when he died without telling anyone he had a stash, are just like all the hard drives with bitcoins on them! Archaeologists of the future will be hard at work looking for lost bitcoin hard drives. Just think their historical worth will mean the stored bitcoin will only have gone up in value!

Barudak
May 7, 2007

galagazombie posted:

When you think about it, those buried chests we constantly find of Roman coins that were buried by Josephus McToga and then were lost when he died without telling anyone he had a stash, are just like all the hard drives with bitcoins on them! Archaeologists of the future will be hard at work looking for lost bitcoin hard drives. Just think their historical worth will mean the stored bitcoin will only have gone up in value!

Ah the museum pieces everyone ignores in favor of historical porn commissions on the side of vases.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Hello Sailor posted:

Re: bog butter, if you still doubt it's a real thing, here's an article about a huge chunk of it they found a few years ago that's estimated to be 2000 years old.

https://www.archaeology.org/news/4526-160609-ireland-bog-butter

As someone in the field, they 100% tasted it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

galagazombie posted:

When you think about it, those buried chests we constantly find of Roman coins that were buried by Josephus McToga and then were lost when he died without telling anyone he had a stash, are just like all the hard drives with bitcoins on them! Archaeologists of the future will be hard at work looking for lost bitcoin hard drives. Just think their historical worth will mean the stored bitcoin will only have gone up in value!

I just love that buried pirate treasure is real.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Telsa Cola posted:

As someone in the field, they 100% tasted it.

Do you keep human remains in your garage by chance?

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:

Do you keep human remains in your garage by chance?

Nope, everybody whose sane wants nothing to do with human remains.

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
I had an art teacher once who had some real human skulls in the class room

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Barudak posted:

Ah the museum pieces everyone ignores in favor of historical porn commissions on the side of vases.

Bespoke porn is always going to be a store of value.

If only shock value. :getin:

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

NorgLyle posted:

I worked for a large multinational bank for years and we had an entire division whose entire purpose was basically to 'check to see if someone is stupid enough to be depositing $9999 repeatedly'.

Why on earth did you need an entire division for that?

Elden Lord Godfrey
Mar 4, 2022
https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7vj9a/sam-bankman-fried-deepfake-offers-refund-to-victims-in-verified-twitter-account-scam

lmao it really seems that neural networks, which recombine the enormous corpus of human textual and visual works into what looks like novel productions, simply use that mass produced nonsense to trick real people into giving up their real economic values

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

galagazombie posted:

When you think about it, those buried chests we constantly find of Roman coins that were buried by Josephus McToga and then were lost when he died without telling anyone he had a stash, are just like all the hard drives with bitcoins on them! Archaeologists of the future will be hard at work looking for lost bitcoin hard drives. Just think their historical worth will mean the stored bitcoin will only have gone up in value!

Isn't the blockchain a record of every transaction that has taken place? If so those late capitalism era bitcoins will be an invaluable, enduring record for future archeologists to look back at randoms buying drugs on the internet and losing vast sums in super obvious scams.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Future archaeologists are just going to scratch their heads over it and write papers about their ceremonial uses

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://twitter.com/web3isgreat/status/1622658000195317760?s=46&t=7fK0G_gX10OCHAMyT7OCMg

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


One of the top stories on CBC right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/crypto-king-associate-hands-over-million-in-bank-drafts-1.6736290


One of the "crypto king"'s associates wiped his phone before handing it over to a fraud lawyer who got a civil search warrant against him, and had $1m in bank drafts to the head dude in the ponzi who declared bankrputcy without mentioning them.

Courts love when you gently caress around like this, right?

MEIN RAVEN
Oct 7, 2008

Gutentag Mein Raven

Powershift posted:

One of the top stories on CBC right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/crypto-king-associate-hands-over-million-in-bank-drafts-1.6736290


One of the "crypto king"'s associates wiped his phone before handing it over to a fraud lawyer who got a civil search warrant against him, and had $1m in bank drafts to the head dude in the ponzi who declared bankrputcy without mentioning them.

Courts love when you gently caress around like this, right?

One weird trick to get out of legal trouble! Lawyers hate it!

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Powershift posted:

One of the top stories on CBC right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/crypto-king-associate-hands-over-million-in-bank-drafts-1.6736290


One of the "crypto king"'s associates wiped his phone before handing it over to a fraud lawyer who got a civil search warrant against him, and had $1m in bank drafts to the head dude in the ponzi who declared bankrputcy without mentioning them.

Courts love when you gently caress around like this, right?

One thing I always think about is how many of these scammy type dudes are out there if occasionally one hits it big. They're incredibly dumb usually but completely without ethics and occasionally luck into some method to pull in tons of cash like this guy.

Just think of how many dummies are trying similar angles but haven't managed to cash in big.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Ghost Leviathan posted:

I've been told that the trick to getting away with accounting fraud and grift is to not get greedy.

Also the old adage: Only commit one crime at a time.
The problem is, you're almost always committing tax fraud at the same time. (Unless you're, like, murdering somebody, which probably has minor or no tax implications.)

Durzel
Nov 15, 2005


Thing is - if he has wiped the iPhone and they can't be sure of anything that was previously on there, how do you measure the punishment besides simply contempt of court?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Durzel posted:

Thing is - if he has wiped the iPhone and they can't be sure of anything that was previously on there, how do you measure the punishment besides simply contempt of court?

Willing to bet that they are gonna find connections to the phone in other evidence that will make it worse for him, its rarely the only way to find out what was on the phone.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Durzel posted:

Thing is - if he has wiped the iPhone and they can't be sure of anything that was previously on there, how do you measure the punishment besides simply contempt of court?

Tampering with evidence is a felony that can get you up to 20 years in jail by itself.

They have to prove you did it knowingly and with intent, but if they can cross those thresholds you can be really hosed.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Cyrano4747 posted:

Tampering with evidence is a felony that can get you up to 20 years in jail by itself.

They have to prove you did it knowingly and with intent, but if they can cross those thresholds you can be really hosed.

In the US, destroying evidence basically reverses the burden of proof. If you destroy something it's evidence that the claims that you did something wrong are accurate. I don't know if that's how it works in Canada, but the legal traditions are close enough that it seems likely.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Random Stranger posted:

In the US, destroying evidence basically reverses the burden of proof. If you destroy something it's evidence that the claims that you did something wrong are accurate. I don't know if that's how it works in Canada, but the legal traditions are close enough that it seems likely.

This only applies in civil cases. In criminal cases, it is always the state's burden of proof to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Hence why it's necessary to make evidence tampering a separate crime.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Provably destroying evidence under certain conditions is itself usually enough to convict, whether the original charge goes through or not. It's basically a gamble, because if you destroy evidence and they can't prove you did it with the right elements the gambit succeeds. If the gambit doesn't succeed you get 20 years. Rarely is a defendant able to identify what evidence is sufficient to carry a conviction, so if they destroy evidence and get convicted they'll get no leniency and additional jail time which usually adds up to "the rest of your life". It's just such a stupid gamble.

Basically, only the dumbest and most narcissistic people try to destroy evidence so it's right at home in crypto.

jokes fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Feb 7, 2023

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

jokes posted:

Provably destroying evidence under certain conditions is itself usually enough to convict. It's basically a gamble, because if you destroy evidence and they can't prove you did it with the right elements the gambit succeeds. If the gambit doesn't succeed you get 20 years.

Basically, only the dumbest and most narcissistic people try to destroy evidence so it's right at home in cryptoland

to be clear, you can use the evidence destruction as circumstantial evidence - that you were busy melting an unidentified body in an acid vat is pretty good evidence in a murder trial even if you can't prove whose body - but there isn't an "adverse inference instruction" (assume the destroyed evidence was unfavorable to the person who destroyed it).

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Telsa Cola posted:

Nope, everybody whose sane wants nothing to do with human remains.

I heard there's at least one skeleton in your bed every night.

putin is a oval office posted:

Why on earth did you need an entire division for that?

Big institutions take anti-money-laundering laws really, really seriously. It's one of those rare things the government will actually gently caress them up for.

Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Feb 7, 2023

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I’ll put good money on him having an iCloud backup that didn’t get deleted.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

MarcusSA posted:

I’ll put good money on him having an iCloud backup that didn’t get deleted.

100%

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck
my_crimes.txt backed up on IPFS

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Nybble posted:

my_crimes.txt backed up on IPFS

Immutable Public Felony Storage

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
https://twitter.com/insiderads/status/1622994757520699396

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Why? The firms shouldn't care unless.... Oh hell, were they offering commercial slots to crypto companies on credit?! 7+ digits net 120 on a company whose assets (if they exist) can crash with no notice?

Wall Balls
Jun 3, 2007

Spanish Castle Magic

thank god

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Sentient Data posted:

Why? The firms shouldn't care unless.... Oh hell, were they offering commercial slots to crypto companies on credit?! 7+ digits net 120 on a company whose assets (if they exist) can crash with no notice?

We said we'd give you $100mm of value, and according to our calculations that's *checks math*

0.23 of this cryptocoin we just made yesterday

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
come on I really want mat damon to call me a pussy again

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.



:sad:

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



Maybe they literally couldn't find a single noteworthy celebrity shameless enough to Matt Damon themselves this year.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Has there ever been a commercial that was like 'buy apple stock today, it's going up up up and you can make a ton of money".

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Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat
ask your broker if tesla stock is right for you

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