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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Frosted Flake posted:

Into turmoil* whoops

no, i think you got it right the first time

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Slavvy posted:

Ender's game but for white nationalist destiny

Isn't that basically the subtext?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Dixon Chisholm posted:

never had them, but would kill for them.

They are really simply to make. You can get then done in half an hour or less.

I would just say that Eastern European sour cream is more like Greek yogurt than American sour cream.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Weka posted:

Isn't that basically the subtext?

Re-reading it it's striking how blatantly Ender's Game is about WW2 and Japan and basically advocates the genocide of the Japanese, not to mention the toxic nerd dude identity of the protagonist

Then the sequel where they colonize Space-Brazil is also explicit genocide apologia

Card is a hack and a dime store Heinlein impersonator, with appropriate politics

icantfindaname has issued a correction as of 05:04 on Feb 8, 2023

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Are those Krabs? Are they typically used for direct fire?

sum
Nov 15, 2010


Remember the line from before the war that Azov was only 1% of the AFU lol

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Gripweed posted:

Jesus Christ, Russia has a massive surplus of MILFs

Look closely, they're statistically firmly in the gilf range

supersnowman posted:

Did they ever face actual artillery?

Lol

Weka posted:

Are those Krabs? Are they typically used for direct fire?

Direct fire use of artillery, basically maximum dakka with every gun that can shoot, was a cornerstone of Soviet doctrine. I imagine that direct fire from a modern field gun would absolutely ruin your day even if you're in an MBT.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

icantfindaname posted:

Re-reading it it's striking how blatantly Ender's Game is about WW2 and Japan and basically advocates the genocide of the Japanese, not to mention the toxic nerd dude identity of the protagonist

Then the sequel where they colonize Space-Brazil is also explicit genocide apologia

Card is a hack and a dime store Heinlein impersonator, with appropriate politics

card is if rod dreher wrote fiction

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I guess in fairness, Leiji Matsumoto's Yamato is also an extremely thinly veiled WW2 naval war metaphor, with the ultimate villain literally being Admiral Bill Halsey

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I reckon WW2 might have been a poorly disguised metaphor for WW2

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Slavvy posted:

Ender's game but for white nationalist destiny

icantfindaname posted:

Re-reading it it's striking how blatantly Ender's Game is about WW2 and Japan and basically advocates the genocide of the Japanese, not to mention the toxic nerd dude identity of the protagonist

Then the sequel where they colonize Space-Brazil is also explicit genocide apologia

Card is a hack and a dime store Heinlein impersonator, with appropriate politics

You two would poo poo your pants if you ever dared to read the TEN VOLUME "Mission Earth" by L Ron Hubbard. Yes that L Ron Hubbard.

I will spoil nothing. Nothing.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Slavvy posted:

Look closely, they're statistically firmly in the gilf range

Every gilf is, by definition, a milf

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
check this out:

Majori-anukovych

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

check this out:

Majori-anukovych

:eyepop:

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Frosted Flake posted:

Ukraine throwing their military and political leadership at the worst possible time is kinda funny

is it ever a good time to have kleptocrats in charge though

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Jel Shaker posted:

is it ever a good time to have kleptocrats in charge though

Depends which propaganda you listen to and when.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

DancingShade posted:

You two would poo poo your pants if you ever dared to read the TEN VOLUME "Mission Earth" by L Ron Hubbard. Yes that L Ron Hubbard.

I will spoil nothing. Nothing.

if this is the one that John Travolta made a movie about called battlefield earth or something like that it loving owned

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

On 22 January 1944, VI Corps executed Operation Shingle—an amphibious flanking movement around the German Gustav Line—and landed at Anzio, a mere thirty-five miles southwest of Rome. Landing craft bearing the assault wave headed toward the shoreline at 0200 hours. The invadingforces achieved almost complete surprise, and only a few coastal artillery and anti-aircraft guns offered a brief and futile resistance.

...

The British 1st Infantry Division landed to the left and also made easy progress inland; engineersand the Navy had the port of Anzio open by mid-afternoon. By midnight, VI Corps had thirty-six thousand men and thirty-two hundred vehicles ashore. It had lost only thirteen men killed and ninety-seven wounded.

...

Major General Lucas viewed his job as establishing and defending a beachhead at Anzio, not kicking open the door to Rome. He judged his initial assault force to be too weak to risk penetrating the Alban Hills that dominated the landing site from a dozen miles inland, although by doing so he could have cut the main highway—and supply route—from Rome to the Gustav Line.¹² Lucas’s decision decided the terms under which the battle at Anzio would be fought.

...

Sixth Corps spent the next several days slightly expanding and consolidating its holdings. By the third day, the Allies controlled a flat strip along the coast seven miles deep and sixteen miles wide. The left flank was anchored on the Moletta River and the right on the Mussolini Canal. A pine forest covered the center of the lodgement. On 25 January, the British advanced up the Albano road toward Rome and captured the fascist model town of Aprilia, which the Allies dubbed “the Factory.” The American 3d Infantry Division, however, encountered serious resistance as the doughs tried to advance toward Cisterna, a town in the Alban Hills. The lead elements of the 45th Infantry and 1st Armored divisions began landing that day.

The arriving GIs soon shared Lucas’s earlier misgivings regarding Operation Shingle. Informed that the Anzio operation would cut off the German forces defending Cassino, the men quipped, “Yeah, we’ve got ‘em surrounded now.” The history of the 157th Infantry Regiment recorded, “Anzio breathed disaster, and each man felt it.”¹⁴

Rain, hail, and sleet began falling the next daywhile the 894th Tank Destroyer Battalion landed and deployed to support the British—who fielded only towed AT guns—the Rangers, and the 1st Armored Division.¹⁵

Lucas kept VI Corps sitting virtually still as he awaited the arrival of more troops. The Germans, however, were furiously active and threw units into the defensive line as they arrived.¹⁶ Indeed, on 27 January, the tank killers of the 601st were ordered to provide close support to the doughs of the embattled 3d Infantry Division. They encountered a tough defensive line that exploited stone houses, ruins, and the natural cover offered by canals, stream beds, and draws as positions for strongpoints. Gunners dueled with German antitank guns at ranges of one thousand to seventeen hundred yards and knocked out three. The M10s of 3d Platoon, Company B, engaged a tank at only three hundred yards and destroyed it by firing 3-inch shells through two walls ofthe house behind which it was lurking.¹⁷

Lucas decided on 29 January that he was ready to break out, and he ordered an attack for the next day. The British 1st and American 3d Infantry divisions (the latter supported by the Rangers and the 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment) were to continue along their axes of advance. The 1st Armored Division’s CCA (CCB was still in southern Italy) would swing around the British left and hit the Germans from the west. The ground units would receive support from naval guns, artillery, and airstrikes. By then, however, Kesselring had stopped worrying that he could not contain the landing.¹⁸

The 1st Armored Division attacked on 30 January. Here was Lucas’s strongest punch. The worst mud since the disaster at Medjez el Bab kept the armor road-bound, and the tankers fought much of the day just to reach their planned line of departure. The next day, the combat command—weakened by a requirement to loan a medium tank battalion to the British—tried again. It gained only a thousand yards. The division retired to the pine woods anddug in. The tanks would spend much of the next few months with nothing but their turrets exposed, firing artillery missions.¹⁹

The British 1st Infantry Division made better progress and in three days punched through the German main line of resistance and captured Campoleone.

...

The 3d Infantry Division, mean while, launched an assault toward Cisterna that in three bloody days would gain no more than three miles before burning out in exhaustion.

...

On 2 February, Alexander and Clark ordered Lucas to go over to the defensive. They told him to build a strong defensive line and to keep a powerful force in reserve to handle the German counterattack they expected at any time. The command also sent Lucas the First Special Service Force—a mixed American-Canadian outfit—and the British 56th Infantry Division, which would arrive in stages over the next two weeks.

As anticipated, the Germans struck the British sector of the line late on 3 February. A battalion of the Irish Guards and elements of the 894th Tank Destroyer Battalion were cut off during fierce nightfighting.... Over the next week, repeated assaults drove the badly depleted British 1st Infantry Division back from Campoleone and the Factory at Aprilia.

...

Lucas had to decrease the British frontage, and on 10 April he committed his two reserve regiments from the 45th Infantry Division to part of the British sector. The Americans tried to retake the Factory, but failed.

An uneasy lull settled over the Anzio beachhead.²⁵

A flanking maneuver aimed at the enemy capital that gets bogged down in mud, repulsed by stalwart defenders, and ended in failure is a perfect analogy for the Kiev offensive in March of last year, but no one is going to make the connection to the Anzio landings because it would make the West look bad.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


whoa this mf DIED in 2020. rip

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/&#107...31080;&%231095;

deepl posted:

Denys Andriyovych Yantar (July 21, 1989, Mykolaiv, Ukrainian SSR - September 9, 2020, Mykolaiv, Ukraine) was a Ukrainian public figure, former head of the Mykolaiv regional branch of the National Corps party, a veteran of the Russian-Ukrainian war as part of the Azov battalion.

He was one of the leaders of the "ultras" of the football club "Mykolaiv"[1]. He participated in the Revolution of Dignity of 2013-2014. On April 7, 2014, he took part in the dispersal of a pro-Russian separatist tent camp on the square in front of the monument to the heroes of Olshan in Mykolaiv.

After the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian war, he joined the Azov volunteer battalion[2][3] and participated in the battles for Shyrokyne[4].

In 2016, he became the head of the Mykolaiv regional branch of the National Corps, replacing Ilya Zelinsky.

In August 2016, he organized the international mixed martial arts tournament "Road to the Unconquered-2" in Mykolaiv[5], and in November of the same year he took third place in the Kherson Regional Open MMA Cup[6].

In June 2019, he became the founder and head of the private security service Aurum Security Group LLC[7].

In July 2019, he was 63rd on the list of the All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda" in the early elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. As a result of the voting, he did not get into the parliament[8].

In June 2020, he brought a coffin to the office of the pro-Russian Shariy Party in Mykolaiv to protest.

He died at the age of 31 on September 9, 2020, from blood cancer[9].


Conflict with Zelenskyy

On October 26, 2019, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited the village of Zolote, where he spoke with volunteers who organized the headquarters of the Last Checkpoint movement there to protest against the possible disengagement of troops. One of the speakers on the side of the soldiers was Denys Yantar, whose conversation with the president was extremely tense and emotional. In particular, Zelenskyy responded to Yantar's proposal to formalize relations and discuss the protesters' demands with the phrase:

"With whom? With you? I came to tell you: put away the weapons. And you're changing the subject. You can't give me any ultimatums at all, you don't understand."[10]

After the volunteer tried to explain the situation, Zelensky added:

"Listen, I am the president of this country, I am 42 years old. I'm not some kind of sucker, I came to you and said: put away your weapons. Don't turn me into a stock exchange. I wanted to see understanding in his eyes, but I saw a guy who decided that he was facing a sucker and was changing the subject.

In the evening of the same day, Denys Yantar said that according to the information received by the volunteers, the authorities were planning to drive them out of the city, but even so, they would continue to stand their ground[11].

An interesting fact is that in the 2019 presidential election, Denys Yantar supported Volodymyr Zelenskyi[12].

On October 28, Yantar said that the volunteers had handed over all the weapons they had to trusted people, fulfilling the president's wish that there be no weapons on their position.

Awards

Certificate of Honor of Mykolaiv Regional Council (November 15, 2019) - for a significant contribution to the protection of the national interests of our country, a sincere desire to live in a free, democratic and sovereign country, civic feat, patriotism and courage, active life position and on the occasion of the Day of Dignity and Freedom[14];

Notes

Mykolaiv soldiers of Azov opened a photo exhibition of their works about the battles in Shyrokyne (in Ukrainian). "NikVesti. Archived from the original on September 11, 2019. Cited on October 29, 2019.
"There are things that can divide people's paths": Biletskyi on his relationship with Avakov's deputy and Mykolaiv's "National Corps" (in Ukrainian). "Crime.net". Archived from the original on December 11, 2019. Cited October 29, 2019.

Strangulations, knockouts and one hundred and one roses: a spectacular fight show "Way to the Unconquered III" took place in Mykolaiv (in Ukrainian). "NikLife. Archived from the original on December 9, 2019. Cited October 29, 2019.

Veteran Denys Yantar on the dispute with Zelenskyy: "We are not repulsed people who want war for the sake of war" (in Ukrainian). "Focus. Origami archive.

blood and soil sarcoma

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012
I think it's a reach. For one thing, the Americans never withdrew from Anzio, they hung out getting bombed until their allies managed to break through the Gustav Line. If Mark Clark hadn't been such an egotistical prick, they might have actually achieved the initial goal of encircling the German garrison, but he chose to squander the opportunity for 0 benefit to anybody. Ah well, it's not like WWII was ending anytime soon.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
what da gently caress is blood 🩸 cancer

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
the russians had the good sense to cut their losses and withdraw once it became clear that the attack wouldn't work, so i think they have one on the yanks in this case

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012
Anzio was also an amphibious landing so... gl withdrawing from that. Sticking around was the better option i guess

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
eh, there's been plenty of withdrawals from a beachhead and it's also a lot easier when you have complete control of the air and sea

Turtle Watch
Jul 30, 2010

by Games Forum
Unsurprisingly, it has a lot to do with ORC…


Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Homeless Friend posted:

what da gently caress is blood 🩸 cancer

Leukaemia or lymphoma usually.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Turtle Watch posted:

Unsurprisingly, it has a lot to do with ORC…




my god... the russians were inside us all along...

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Homeless Friend posted:

what da gently caress is blood 🩸 cancer

hmm i guess his blood wasnt as pure as he thought

Turtle Watch
Jul 30, 2010

by Games Forum
Picture Ukraine as a cell this is what the Special Military Operation looks like…

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

I bet he died with COVID

https://news.obozrevatel.com/ukr/society/pomer-veteran-ato-yakij-poskandaliv-na-donbasi-iz-zelenskim.htm

quote:

A veteran of the ATO, who quarreled with Zelensky in Donbas, has died - Boris Bondar 09/09/2020 18:47

Denys Yantar, a veteran of the war in Donbas, the head of the local organization of the National Corps of Ukraine, died in Mykolaiv.

Dmytro Shatrovskyi, the head of the public council under the Ministry of Veteran Affairs of Ukraine, announced this on Facebook. The veteran had cancer.

"He did not talk about his terrible diagnosis, about blood cancer. The last time they spoke to him, he said that he was going to the hospital for treatment of his leg, so he could not come to the congress of the Movement of Veterans of Ukraine, of which he is an honorary member." Shatrovsky wrote.

ATO veteran Denys Yantar died.

As the Mykolaiv edition of Nikvesta reported with reference to the words of Yantar's colleagues in the National Corps, the man was an active participant in the Revolution of Dignity in 2013-2014.

On April 7, 2014, he participated in the dispersal of a pro-Russian tent camp in Mykolaiv.

After the start of the war, he became a volunteer and helped the "Azov" battalion. After the death of an "Azov" soldier in August 2014 during the storming of occupied Maryinka, Yantar himself went to the front. He took part in the battles for Granitne and Shyrokino.

The head of the National Corps, Andriy Biletsky, wrote in Telegram that Yantar dreamed of restoring Ukrainian shipbuilding and the Ukrainian sea all his life.

"He dreamed of Ukrainian ships, of Ukrainian flags over the Black, Mediterranean and other seas. But life gave him other conditions - to defend the country with weapons in his hands," wrote Biletskyi.

Yantar dreamed of restoring Ukrainian shipbuilding.
In October 2019, when Zelensky came to the volunteers in Zolote, where the disengagement of forces was to take place, a dispute took place between him and Yantar.

Denys Yantar was an athlete and an intellectual.
As OBOZREVATEL wrote, ex-fighter of the "Azov" regiment Denys Yantar criticized the decision of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi to disband troops in Donbas.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

crepeface posted:

if this is the one that John Travolta made a movie about called battlefield earth or something like that it loving owned

Same author, different book. Series of books. They were these really big hardcovers I found in my local library at the time. Naturally I read them all.

I honestly couldn't summarise accurately if I wanted to. Wikipedia seems accurate from memory (probably a bunch of fanatical scientologists maintaining the entry out of religious devotion or something)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Earth_(novel_series)

quote:

Censorship attempt
In 1991, the town of Dalton, Georgia attempted to remove the Mission Earth books from its public library, citing what was described as "repeated passages involving chronic masochism, child abuse, homosexuality, necromancy, bloody murder, and other things that are anti-social, perverted, and anti-everything". The attempt was unsuccessful, though this placed the Mission Earth series into the category of banned books that have been challenged in the United States.[6]

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

mawarannahr posted:

whoa this mf DIED in 2020. rip

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/&#107...31080;&%231095;

blood and soil sarcoma

quote:

On April 7, 2014, he took part in the dispersal of a pro-Russian separatist tent camp on the square in front of the monument to the heroes of Olshan in Mykolaiv.

doing overtime on that journo-speak

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Slavvy posted:

I reckon WW2 might have been a poorly disguised metaphor for WW2

I think you might be on to something

Zeppelin Insanity
Oct 28, 2009

Wahnsinn
Einfach
Wahnsinn

sum posted:

Remember the line from before the war that Azov was only 1% of the AFU lol


the president is jewish, therefore the presidential brigade cannot be nazi, that's just facts

these are ancestral slavic symbols of peace and unity with the tribes of israel

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

sum posted:

Remember the line from before the war that Azov was only 1% of the AFU lol


all the sweeter when you see them as burnt out hulks

Russia has dealt with nazi tanks before.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Zeppelin Insanity posted:

the president is jewish, therefore the presidential brigade cannot be nazi, that's just facts

my favourite thing to respond to this is with ""do you think systemic oppression ended when obama was elected president?"

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

crepeface posted:

my favourite thing to respond to this is with ""do you think systemic oppression ended when obama was elected president?"

the problem is that they do

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



A picture of the "He fights for freedom" WW2 style propaganda posters but its an ukranian ultra nationalist emblazoned with a bunch of nazi imagery.

Majorian probing anyone that says hes a nazi.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Cao Ni Ma posted:

A picture of the "He fights for freedom" WW2 style propaganda posters but its an ukranian ultra nationalist emblazoned with a bunch of nazi imagery.

Majorian probing anyone that says hes a nazi.

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1623309464735567872?t=V0uu9qrYtnZW-uYurDc4Yg&s=19

We fought for freedom, actually

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mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Nonsense posted:

Russia will lose the war and will continue to lose the war until they take Historic Odessa. Russia is an embarrassment and no longer a great power.

*odesa, but otherwise correct

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