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just the fact that a balloon dominated the news for a couple days is really funny
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Stink Billyums posted:just the fact that a balloon dominated the news for a couple days is really funny I just dont like how political it got.
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politics is how we decide how to apportion violence in society. it is the worst way except all the other ways. difficult to see how a fired missile could be construed as anything but violence
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Stink Billyums posted:just the fact that a balloon dominated the news for a couple days is really funny balloon boy was better
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Ups_rail posted:I just dont like how political it got. how political were you expecting an international airspace incident to get, if you don't mind my asking?
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NoiseAnnoys posted:how political were you expecting an international airspace incident to get, if you don't mind my asking? okay balloons are hard to control, So the plan of send a bunch of ballons to float over X place for spy reasons is just kinda hard for me to believe. Also I know its china so its not like china will say to the international world "a mistake happaned" as in those were ballons for X reason and they happened to float that way. gently caress I remember they called the fruit flies they sent to the moon "lazy" instead of "dead" Then the simple fact the balloon was very very high up. So shooting it down was hard. But then when it was over the ocean it was lower and within reach of missles. But see trump said shoot it down, well if trump says something it must be bad and we should not shoot it down, but then biden shot it down and if biden shot it down then he s agreeing with trump which is a good thing/ bad thing. In UPS_rails world of adults China would say "hey thats a experimental metrological high altitude platform that belong to this organization....well bring them out to talk about....it seems the wind is gonna blow it over canada and USA and other other places" USA: So a chinese high altitude ballow is flying over our nation were tracking it and working with its owners in china to see what its doing. CHUDS: that balloon will activate the 5G covid vaccine and turn us all gay MSM: please ignore the chuds/
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Ups_rail posted:okay balloons are hard to control, So the plan of send a bunch of ballons to float over X place for spy reasons is just kinda hard for me to believe. The craft had some "thrusters" and had some maneuverability. It could have easily been shot down sooner but I don't think anyone was comfortable shooting down something the size of 2 (3?) school busses over land. The fact that that "lost control" of something so large is incredibly reckless and frankly a quite dangerous.
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Feb 8, 2023 00:42
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Ups_rail posted:In UPS_rails world of adults Your bold assumption here is that it is in fact something meteorological and not something espionage related AND even if it was, that the US, their geopolitical rival (or any sovereign country) would totally just take the very reliable-and-definitely-acting-in-good-faith Chinese government at their word? Like if it was Canadian or Australia or some other ally or neutral country, I could maybe see something like that happening while it would be awkward and a bit embarrassing, it probably wouldn’t rise to the level of potential “international flashpoint incident.” Can you imagine the meltdown/hurt feelings from Beijing if the US did something like this?
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sticksy posted:Can you imagine the meltdown/hurt feelings from Beijing if the US did something like this? Or if they couldnt shoot it down they wouldnt talk about it
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Feb 8, 2023 01:13
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My favorite part is China getting all huffy and saying they will now do the same if they find a spy balloon in their air space.
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sticksy posted:The loss of face and the CCP reaction associated with the dumbass balloon thing is very funny to me as a lurker in this thread and just having introduced myself to the loss of face thing, that does seem to explain it and i agree. Lol.
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sticksy posted:Your bold assumption here is that it is in fact something meteorological and not something espionage related AND even if it was, that the US, their geopolitical rival (or any sovereign country) would totally just take the very reliable-and-definitely-acting-in-good-faith Chinese government at their word? if they had a meltdown four years ago it wasn't enough to be in the U.S. news https://www.china-arms.com/2019/09/j-10c-shot-balloon-with-pl-10/
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bamhand posted:My favorite part is China getting all huffy and saying they will now do the same if they find a spy balloon in their air space. Relaunch the X-37b this weekend
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bamhand posted:My favorite part is China getting all huffy and saying they will now do the same if they find a spy balloon in their air space. The legacy of KA Flight 007 lives on
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The china thread really help me understand face culture when a goon told the story about moving offices. The movers came saw how big of a job it was and left. The new building was still being finished, but it would totally be done on time. The people running the show kept buying time by saying they were totally moving just wait....untill they couldnt stall anymore etc. Which one of you was that?
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Ups_rail posted:The china thread really help me understand face culture when a goon told the story about moving offices. sounds like a braindance or tga story™
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Ups_rail posted:okay balloons are hard to control, So the plan of send a bunch of ballons to float over X place for spy reasons is just kinda hard for me to believe. yeah that's not what would happen anywhere.
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Any legit 'innocent' agency would notify local aerospace authorities about their poo poo entering their airspace.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Any legit 'innocent' agency would notify local aerospace authorities about their poo poo entering their airspace. Any legit 'innocent' agency would also have been identified by this point, instead of the Chinese government continuing to dodge and weave every time they're asked who, exactly, the balloon belonged to anyway.
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Porfiriato posted:Any legit 'innocent' agency would also have been identified by this point, instead of the Chinese government continuing to dodge and weave every time they're asked who, exactly, the balloon belonged to anyway. it;s a shame we made this political
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Feb 8, 2023 14:15
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The biggest lol is all the chuds going "Trump would never have allowed this!" and we find out that three of these loving things flew over during his term.
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Feb 8, 2023 14:35
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And in serious, depressing and all-too-familiar news: Roughly 1 million Tibetan children have been separated from their families and forcibly placed into state-run boarding schools Good old "residential schools" nothing bad can happen at one of those, right?
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Truly learned from the best.
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Porfiriato posted:Any legit 'innocent' agency would also have been identified by this point, instead of the Chinese government continuing to dodge and weave every time they're asked who, exactly, the balloon belonged to anyway. but that agency was just a temp agency whose since moved on.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:And in serious, depressing and all-too-familiar news: Three hots and a cot? Sounds like they must have done something right in a previous life
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bamhand posted:My favorite part is China getting all huffy and saying they will now do the same if they find a spy balloon in their air space. Does China have any missiles that don't start tumbling sideways as soon as they're fired? (https://www.reddit.com/r/Chinesium/comments/wcrxad/brandnew_chinese_qbz191_assault_rifles_cant_put/)
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Megillah Gorilla posted:And in serious, depressing and all-too-familiar news:
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yeah theres a straight line path towards escalation and nobody read their fuckin clausewitz on either side looks like thats my main bet for apocalypse currently
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Feb 9, 2023 17:06
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World war 3 didn’t start with nukes. It started with rocks and maces.
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probably shouldn't have killed all those pesky traditional chinese martial artists during the great leap forward.
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Games Workshop really upping the realism on their latest Astra Militarum models.
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NoiseAnnoys posted:probably shouldn't have killed all those pesky traditional chinese martial artists during the great leap forward. They should send Jackie Chan
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mobby_6kl posted:They should send Jackie Chan Taiwan got Chang Dong Sheng in the expansion draft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ym3y0iLpSE
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I mean it makes perfect sense in that the primary purpose of the PLA and most non first world militaries is to kill protestors
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Ups_rail posted:I cant help but think about a board with a nail in it macuahuitl or bust
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