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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Zwabu posted:

I'm staring at a tweet that contains the words James O'Keefe and "musical theater dreams" in the same sentence.

James O'Keefe has always been a failed musical theater kid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__gPP1HAy4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-zqfcPKa_g

What is it with all of these young right wing assholes and being failed creative types? James O'Keefe failed to make it to Broadway so he just makes up poo poo and creates fake controversies for a living. Ben Shapiro failed to become a Hollywood screenwriter, then tried to become a novelist and that didn't work out either, and then tried to become a film producer and goose egg'd that too. And Steven Crowder is a failed child actor.

At least folks like John Voight, Kelsey Grammer, James Woods, Tim Allen, Kevin Sorbo and Robert Davi all had a measure of success while being right wing cranks.

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
is Chowder a failed child actor? i thought he was justa child VA for the Brain on Arthur and then aged out and let probably his regressive parents make him intoa young regressive wonderboy tool.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

DarklyDreaming posted:

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow stole 40 cakes

That's terrible.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
A thread containing a ton of clips from the House Oversight committee/Hunters Laptop
My favorite being the fact that Trump got called a Pussy rear end Bitch by Chrissy Teigan and demanded it be removed from Twitter but it is now on record.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1623344693751816198

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1623374647948455936

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/08/media/republicans-hearing-twitter-bias-reliable-sources/index.html

"The unsupported claim is nothing new for him. Comer has long pushed the notion that Elon Musk’s release of the so-called “Twitter Files” showed “evidence that the Biden campaign colluded with Big Tech to suppress a story that we now know is 100 percent true.” That, of course, is not what the selectively released company documents show."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/02/chrissy-teigen-donald-trump-tweet-removed
“The White House almost immediately thereafter contacted Twitter to demand the tweet be taken down. Is that accurate?” Representative Gerry Connolly asked Navaroli. “I do remember hearing we’d received a request from the White House to make sure we evaluated this tweet, and they wanted it to come down because it was a derogatory statement directed at the president,” she said.

OgNar fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Feb 9, 2023

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

DarklyDreaming posted:

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow stole 40 cakes

But that's as many as four tens!

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

nine-gear crow posted:

What is it with all of these young right wing assholes and being failed creative types?
You ever think "drat, I could be a country music star if I faked it"?

Same thing but the attention feeds into it and they aren't faking it. And it doesn't require any skill, just an absence of empathy.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


nine-gear crow posted:

What is it with all of these young right wing assholes and being failed creative types?

they turned on the world when the success that they felt they were entitled to was not delivered to them

also right wing fuckheads have always been low-key furious that they're not "cool kids" which causes them to obsess over really weird poo poo in an attempt to prove that they're cool in some way (see: ted cruz's obsession with basketball)

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Failed artistic types turning to spreading hatred and bigotry as a part of a fascist ideology? I feel like I've heard that story somewhere, historically speaking.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

nine-gear crow posted:

Ben Shapiro failed to become a Hollywood screenwriter, then tried to become a novelist and that didn't work out either, and then tried to become a film producer and goose egg'd that too. And Steven Crowder is a failed child actor.



Go listen to the Behind the Bastards podcasts on Shapiro's book, "True Allegiance", if you want a real clear idea of why he failed at writing. Because holy poo poo. One host accurately describes his prose as "really good for a 10th grader".

The episodes are funny and they give a really keen insight into the mindset and immature world view of the talk radio listeners of the world

https://www.podchaser.com/lists/ben-shapiros-terrible-book-as-read-on-behind-the-bastards-107a9FVacT

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

OgNar posted:

A thread containing a ton of clips from the House Oversight committee/Hunters Laptop
My favorite being the fact that Trump got called a Pussy rear end Bitch by Chrissy Teigan and demanded it be removed from Twitter but it is now on record.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1623344693751816198

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1623374647948455936

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/08/media/republicans-hearing-twitter-bias-reliable-sources/index.html

"The unsupported claim is nothing new for him. Comer has long pushed the notion that Elon Musk’s release of the so-called “Twitter Files” showed “evidence that the Biden campaign colluded with Big Tech to suppress a story that we now know is 100 percent true.” That, of course, is not what the selectively released company documents show."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/02/chrissy-teigen-donald-trump-tweet-removed
“The White House almost immediately thereafter contacted Twitter to demand the tweet be taken down. Is that accurate?” Representative Gerry Connolly asked Navaroli. “I do remember hearing we’d received a request from the White House to make sure we evaluated this tweet, and they wanted it to come down because it was a derogatory statement directed at the president,” she said.
I assume Fox News has reacted to this damning testimony by simply ignoring that it ever happened?

Will be interesting to see if this committee releases a report on Jan 05 2024 that uses the most milquetoast wording to say twitter acted appropriately.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
How many conservatives want Yoel Roth dead? The discourse on Twitter was that he was a Pedo Protector, admitting to them that he censored right wingers but did nothing about child porn. They bring up this particular case a lot, in which child porn of some boy stayed up and couldn't get taken down because of copyright reasons? Anyway I'm surprised the guy hasn't ended up wrapped in a tarp in the back of some chuds Ford F150 the way they talk about him.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
Well, I imagine he lives in some urban area chuds are convinced is an active MS13 antifa PHIZ warzone. So that probably protects him quite a bit.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Panfilo posted:

How many conservatives want Yoel Roth dead? The discourse on Twitter was that he was a Pedo Protector, admitting to them that he censored right wingers but did nothing about child porn. They bring up this particular case a lot, in which child porn of some boy stayed up and couldn't get taken down because of copyright reasons? Anyway I'm surprised the guy hasn't ended up wrapped in a tarp in the back of some chuds Ford F150 the way they talk about him.
Wasn’t that guy one of the few people who didn’t initially get fired by Elon? I know he did later but IIRC he defended some of Elon’s boneheaded decisions

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

PhazonLink posted:

is Chowder a failed child actor? i thought he was justa child VA for the Brain on Arthur and then aged out and let probably his regressive parents make him intoa young regressive wonderboy tool.

Crowder is a former child actor and a failed standup comedian.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


BiggerBoat posted:

Go listen to the Behind the Bastards podcasts on Shapiro's book, "True Allegiance", if you want a real clear idea of why he failed at writing. Because holy poo poo. One host accurately describes his prose as "really good for a 10th grader".

The episodes are funny and they give a really keen insight into the mindset and immature world view of the talk radio listeners of the world

https://www.podchaser.com/lists/ben-shapiros-terrible-book-as-read-on-behind-the-bastards-107a9FVacT

I wish more of these kind of assholes like Ben would write fiction novels rather than nonfiction because it’s 1000 times more illustrative of their internal mental states than them literally telling you what they think is.

I cannot express enough how every one of Ben Shapiro’s most deeply felt insecurities is scrawled all over every page of that novel and it’s protagonist, General Brett Hawthorne, “...a bear of a man, six three in his bare feet and two hundred fifteen pounds in his underwear, with a graying blond crew cut and a face carved of granite.”

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

FlamingLiberal posted:

Wasn’t that guy one of the few people who didn’t initially get fired by Elon? I know he did later but IIRC he defended some of Elon’s boneheaded decisions

Yeah. He was the big scapegoat when the Twitter files was released. He had also posted some sketchy stuff about age of consent laws years ago so it was the perfect target of right wing anti pedo fury.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
MTG is mad as hell and she's not going to take it!
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1623365139641602067?t=PSfy4whwJ0FvdIf5GcOk0w&s=19

duck.exe
Apr 14, 2012

Nap Ghost

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duck.exe fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Feb 9, 2023

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

FlamingLiberal posted:

I was wondering why noted shithead James O'Keefe was trending, and apparently this is why

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1623506139454242820?s=20&t=oaEYJWutELLZhlM0T-3IGg

Everyone deserves to have a safe, professional workplace, seriously though, working for a horrible monstrous organization, with horrible monstrous goals, founded and run by a horrible monster, and being surprised he acts like a horrible monster and treats you horribly and monstrously?

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Also: ACORN - The Musical!

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

I'll never understand how we, as a collective society, elect so many fundamentally unserious people to serious positions. I don't care what your politics are, idolizing rudeness and stupidity will never make sense to me. Idolizing politicians, for that matter, makes no sense either! They're public servants!

I feel like we're so wrong we're not even wrong anymore. Just so far off the reservation there's no way to correct.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Levantine posted:

I'll never understand how we, as a collective society, elect so many fundamentally unserious people to serious positions. I don't care what your politics are, idolizing rudeness and stupidity will never make sense to me. Idolizing politicians, for that matter, makes no sense either! They're public servants!

I feel like we're so wrong we're not even wrong anymore. Just so far off the reservation there's no way to correct.

Probably a mix of decorum and hugs and stuff having their day and yet here we still are, people like MTG being genuinely truly representative of conservative ideology in a straightforward and honest way that you don't get with the Romneys, and for the more politically astute either "I don't care how the destruction happens as long as it does, I'm here to strip the copper out of the walls and chew bubblegum and I'm all out of gum" or "the House generally and Reps specifically can't even tie their shoes unilaterally so all the important stuff happens in the undemocratic structures that should be focused on instead" like the Senate and courts

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

BiggerBoat posted:

Go listen to the Behind the Bastards podcasts on Shapiro's book, "True Allegiance", if you want a real clear idea of why he failed at writing. Because holy poo poo. One host accurately describes his prose as "really good for a 10th grader".

The episodes are funny and they give a really keen insight into the mindset and immature world view of the talk radio listeners of the world

https://www.podchaser.com/lists/ben-shapiros-terrible-book-as-read-on-behind-the-bastards-107a9FVacT

I mentioned this in USCE the other night, but I listened to the whole BTB series on True Allegiance over the course of a rather slow work week and it is indeed a great dive into not just Ben Shapiro's psyche, but his utter lack of even basic skill at writing. From broad stroke things like setting scenes and character beats, to keeping scenes fixed to one character's POV without wandering off to someone else with no transition, to even small things like how he sucks at just forming sentences, they cover it all.

The most hilarious part though is how for a book that's supposed to be about how awesome Ben's idealized Mary Sue self insert protagonist is, the story ends with him losing, like really badly, and all of Ben's enemies; Muslims, terrorists, Hillary Clinton, China, Mexico, Black Lives Matter; all taking massive Ws. Hell the evil BLM dude scores the biggest win in the whole story, becoming the de facto King of the Midwest and implementing his diabolical scheme to... put more black and community based officers on police forces across the country to try and cut down on the number black people murdered by the cops...? Huh?

tl;dr Ben Shapiro is pants pissing scared about a lot of irrational poo poo and True Allegiance walks you through his thought process step by step of how he turns those things into problems that need to be eliminated at all costs with deadly, unquestionable force. The portrait of the mind of a tiny young-ish fascist.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Take a bullet for ya, babe ❤️

The Islamic Shock
Apr 8, 2021

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

I wish more of these kind of assholes like Ben would write fiction novels rather than nonfiction because it’s 1000 times more illustrative of their internal mental states than them literally telling you what they think is.

I cannot express enough how every one of Ben Shapiro’s most deeply felt insecurities is scrawled all over every page of that novel and it’s protagonist, General Brett Hawthorne, “...a bear of a man, six three in his bare feet and two hundred fifteen pounds in his underwear, with a graying blond crew cut and a face carved of granite.”
I'm six foot three and I'd be fat as gently caress at 215. My family and I on my mother's side also put on weight primarily on the stomach so I'd look even fatter than I actually was... so without shaving for a while, very much like a bear, just probably not the kind he had in mind.

(edit: I also have the body hair for that)

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

VitalSigns posted:

Take a bullet for ya, babe ❤️

[dies in nuclear hellfire]

Seriously, I think that final scene with Ellen Hawthrone was just an excuse for Ben to work out his marital frustrations by writing a scene where he blows up his wife with a nuclear bomb for basically no reason.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Feb 9, 2023

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Was it true allegience that opened with our conservative everyman NFL linebacker protagonist brutally murdering a bunch of cops after he dreamed up a totally psychotic sequence of future events when they pulled him over for speeding in a tank? I remember reading that and being really confused because there's no way Shapiro is a sovcit

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Epic High Five posted:

Was it true allegience that opened with our conservative everyman NFL linebacker protagonist brutally murdering a bunch of cops after he dreamed up a totally psychotic sequence of future events when they pulled him over for speeding in a tank? I remember reading that and being really confused because there's no way Shapiro is a sovcit

Nah, True Allegiance opens with Ben's self-insert Mary Sue 6'10" 300lb bear tank of a man Combat General Brett Hawthrone in a gun fight with the Taliban in Afghanistan where he discovers that Saddam Hussein did in fact have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq all along and he turned them all over to the Iranians (the people he hated to the point of fighting a years-long war against them to try and eradicate them) just before the US invaded Iraq in 2003.

The only cop that shows up in the story is one who who murders an innocent black kid in a panic, though we later find out that it was all a set up by the Commander of Black Lives Matter to trick the cops into murdering a black child completely unprompted in order for him to whip up public outrage that would allow him to try and... reform the police across the United States so that they wouldn't kill unarmed black people as much as they already do.

The BLM storyline in True Allegiance is weird because it's kind of pointlessly tacked on, doesn't really pay off in a way that resonates with the rest of the story, is insanely racist, and yet there are glimmering moments in it where Ben almost loving gets it before he slides back into his bullshit because he knows that trying to paint people advocating for the basic right to live as monsters is evil but the chain of neurons in his little sociopath brain just don't quick make that last connection to complete the realization.



gently caress me, I've had this book and all its horribleness stuffed inside my brain for like two weeks now and it's all just pouring out uncontrollably. Thank you, goons.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Feb 9, 2023

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

I think it's a combination of believing that you are inherently better than everyone else, and not believing that creativity is even a real thing. Of course I can succeed at that, because I'm a winner and nothing in the entire universe will convince me otherwise.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



nine-gear crow posted:

Nah, True Allegiance opens with Ben's self-insert Mary Sue 6'10" 300lb bear tank of a man Combat General Brett Hawthrone in a gun fight with the Taliban in Afghanistan where he discovers that Saddam Hussein did in fact have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq all along and he turned them all over to the Iranians (the people he hated to the point of fighting a years-long war against them to try and eradicate them) just before the US invaded Iraq in 2003.

The only cop that shows up in the story is one who who murders an innocent black kid in a panic, though we later find out that it was all a set up by the Commander of Black Lives Matter to trick the cops into murdering a black child completely unprompted in order for him to whip up public outrage that would allow him to try and... reform the police across the United States so that they wouldn't kill unarmed black people as much as they already do.

The BLM storyline in True Allegiance is weird because it's kind of pointlessly tacked on, doesn't really pay off in a way that resonates with the rest of the story, is insanely racist, and yet there are glimmering moments in it where Ben almost loving gets it before he slides back into his bullshit because he knows that trying to paint people advocating for the basic right to live as monsters is evil but the chain of neurons in his little sociopath brain just don't quick make that last connection to complete the realization.



gently caress me, I've had this book and all its horribleness stuffed inside my brain for like two weeks now and it's all just pouring out uncontrollably. Thank you, goons.

Must've been a different one, I guess I'm lucky that his dreck doesn't seem able to gain purchase in my memory lol. I do remember a lot of this stuff now that you mention it, and I'll second the assertion that however insane and stupid you think his books sounds in summary doesn't really capture just how insane and stupid it actually is.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

Does this excite you, girl?

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

I wish more of these kind of assholes like Ben would write fiction novels rather than nonfiction because it’s 1000 times more illustrative of their internal mental states than them literally telling you what they think is.

I cannot express enough how every one of Ben Shapiro’s most deeply felt insecurities is scrawled all over every page of that novel and it’s protagonist, General Brett Hawthorne, “...a bear of a man, six three in his bare feet and two hundred fifteen pounds in his underwear, with a graying blond crew cut and a face carved of granite.”

God that reads like it was typed with one hand.

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

If your face is like chiseled granite sounds like you need to take up some self care, particularly with a spectrum of skin moisturizers.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

nine-gear crow posted:

Nah, True Allegiance opens with Ben's self-insert Mary Sue 6'10" 300lb bear tank of a man Combat General Brett Hawthrone in a gun fight with the Taliban in Afghanistan where he discovers that Saddam Hussein did in fact have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq all along and he turned them all over to the Iranians (the people he hated to the point of fighting a years-long war against them to try and eradicate them) just before the US invaded Iraq in 2003.

The only cop that shows up in the story is one who who murders an innocent black kid in a panic, though we later find out that it was all a set up by the Commander of Black Lives Matter to trick the cops into murdering a black child completely unprompted in order for him to whip up public outrage that would allow him to try and... reform the police across the United States so that they wouldn't kill unarmed black people as much as they already do.

Does anyone else smell burning toast?

Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 9, 2023

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Murgos posted:

I assume Fox News has reacted to this damning testimony by simply ignoring that it ever happened?

Will be interesting to see if this committee releases a report on Jan 05 2024 that uses the most milquetoast wording to say twitter acted appropriately.

but Fox cant ignore them, the GOP changed all the TVs to play Fox.

Those divas need to see their faces up on the tv screen and their special snow flake, safe space, safety blanket give them praise.
lol if they change tvs back to CNN and etc because they need their tv screen time from anywhere, even libs. (oh wait they need libs, and thats why all their Going Bender phone apps fail)

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

My favorite villain in True Allegiance is the BLM Kingpin because his diabolical plan only makes sense if you are a KKK Grand Dragon level racist.

What is his America-crumbling plan? To stage a police murder of a little black boy so he can harness the public outrage to...reform the Detroit Police by hiring black cops to do community policing.

How is community policing evil exactly? Well you see the only way to hire black officers is to lower the standards and let criminals join of course.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Why the hell bother to false flag cops killing a black kid anyway? Wait. It'll come.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
I feel like an actual bleeding heart leftist could have done a better job making a strawman leftist type villain. Guess he should have hired a ghost writer.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

VitalSigns posted:

My favorite villain in True Allegiance is the BLM Kingpin because his diabolical plan only makes sense if you are a KKK Grand Dragon level racist.

What is his America-crumbling plan? To stage a police murder of a little black boy so he can harness the public outrage to...reform the Detroit Police by hiring black cops to do community policing.

How is community policing evil exactly? Well you see the only way to hire black officers is to lower the standards and let criminals join of course.

Oh yeah, Levon actually the true hero of True Allegiance. Best character, has an actual personality (even if it's a hair shy of the schucking and jiving crows from Dumbo in terms of racist portrayals of black people), has actual long term good ideas that will benefit his community and beyond and the drive to see them done. So of course Ben paints him in the most racist and evil light possible and tries to impress upon his readers that police reform and community policing are bad things. But hey, like I said, at the very least Levon actually wins, which is a lot better than what happens to folks like Combat General Brett Hawthorne over the course of the novel.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

The terrorist leader meeting and saying, "There are no good places to eat in Tehran" was just :psyduck:.

I mean, I've never been near Tehran, but I can't imagine there isn't a single capital city in the world that doesn't have fantastic restaurants.

My guess is Ben doesn't eat any food that's even vaguely from the Middle East or close to Central Asia that's not explicitly Israeli, and just extrapolated his disdain to include food from the region and/or reinforce the belief that Iran is some kind of massive shithole with no happiness whatsoever.

mllaneza posted:

Why the hell bother to false flag cops killing a black kid anyway? Wait. It'll come.

They didn't false flag it. It really happened in the book, but it was a set-up. The evil BLM/Sharpton-types (because Al Sharpton is still a boogeyman in Ben's world) set this little black kid up to antagonize a white police office by making a grown adult think that this 10-year-old was going to whip out a gun. Because a police officer's instincts is to shoot if they feel threatened, regardless of the reality of the situation.

Which, uh, is not good for cops anyway.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

"Gentlemen, I propose shooting an unarmed black child and blaming it on local law enforcement, thus severing the public's trust and leading to the police being defunded."
"Uh, sir, the cops have shot 5 children this week and Biden's proposed a 20 billion funding increase."
"Wow, really? Throw me a friggin bone here, I'm a poorly written racist stereotype in a Ben Shapiro novel."

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mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

nine-gear crow posted:

Oh yeah, Levon actually the true hero of True Allegiance. Best character, has an actual personality (even if it's a hair shy of the schucking and jiving crows from Dumbo in terms of racist portrayals of black people), has actual long term good ideas that will benefit his community and beyond and the drive to see them done. So of course Ben paints him in the most racist and evil light possible and tries to impress upon his readers that police reform and community policing are bad things. But hey, like I said, at the very least Levon actually wins, which is a lot better than what happens to folks like Combat General Brett Hawthorne over the course of the novel.

Remember when Hawthorne asked the NY Port Authority to racially profile a vaguely Middle Eastern-looking man named "Mohammed" and the agents gave exactly all the right reasons as to why not only is it a stupid idea but also why racial profiling is wrong and doesn't work?

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