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I took it as the cousin just not realizing Ioannis was trans, but it works as well or better if he knows Ioannis is FTM and still understands him as being a man but can't do the same for his cousin being MTF. What a dingus. He's probably going to end up head of the Austrian Christian Democrat party if he didn't commit many warcrimes.
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A great update! Is this going to continue on into Stellaris and extend this LP over an entire decade? Because that would be really cool.
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Random Axis posted:A great update! HOI4 -> Stellaris always seemed like an awkward extension for a megacampaign because you lose all the countries that you shared the Earth-bound map with, and any drama from the prior games has to be written more or less unsupported. It really isn't a continuation of a megacampaign as it is a sequel to it.
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Honestly, the game that might be a 'bridge' between HOI4 and Stellaris might be Terra Invicta, since it both starts at a 'modern ish world', but it also might establish human's attitude towards alien life. Except you know, early access, not necessarily moddable and not a Paradox game.
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It's also not a very good game in general.
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NewMars posted:It's also not a very good game in general. True, the idea seemed more fun than the game.
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At this point I’m like 80% sure this won’t continue into Stellaris, even though I like that game a whole lot, since it feels like it will take all of the narrative themes we’ve been building up since 1081 AD and jettison them into orbit. That said, I’m also a bit reluctant to privilege our WW2 equivalent as being, like, the climax and ending point of history, so I want to have something after it. It’s possible that this will just be an elaborate epilogue post or posts, but if anyone has ideas for a game to use as a coda (instead of needing to be a bridge to Stellaris), I’m very interested, since writing this story in collaboration with and ascribing historical narrative meaning to game mechanics is what makes it an LP and not just my alternate history novel. I have vague ambitions of getting this story to 2081, just so it covers an even thousand years of history, but I’m not sure if ‘easily moddable games which model some aspect of history covering the years 1945 to 2081’ is a particularly full market segment.
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Is there a Cold War era mod for Vicky3 (yet)? I remember seeing one for Vicky2, but I wouldn't want Thenora to return to a previous game.
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Empress Theonora posted:At this point I’m like 80% sure this won’t continue into Stellaris, even though I like that game a whole lot, since it feels like it will take all of the narrative themes we’ve been building up since 1081 AD and jettison them into orbit. Make a custom version of Twilight Struggle. Swap out names on the cards, change the map around as needed.
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Empress Theonora posted:At this point I’m like 80% sure this won’t continue into Stellaris, even though I like that game a whole lot, since it feels like it will take all of the narrative themes we’ve been building up since 1081 AD and jettison them into orbit. that's about the right timespan for a lot of sim games but I guess the big question is do you need the game to model the entire world (and does national/international drama and intrigue need to be the focus) or are you cool with just simulating something on a different scope and just writing whatever fluff you feel like for the epilogue of history e.g. lots of citybuilders start midcentury-or-so, or you could do
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All the cold war games I can think of have much more limited scope and so what we think makes sense will likely depend on the state of the world at the end of GW3. Like we could make a modded DEFCON but just starting from the point of DEFCON is making clear statements about what kind of story we're telling in a much less open-ended way than Vicky for example.
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Modability seems like a problem for most games that fit the the period and genre. No modding ICBM (I think), Twilight Struggle, or Hidden Agenda. Not even my planned joke suggestion of going with Shadow Empire if GW3 gets real nuke-heavy works; you'd think they have a map editor but nope. In conclusion, the coda should be Out of the Park Baseball + Möbius Front '83 with the plot rewritten.
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I do enjoy when these megacampaigns end up doing Stellaris but that's because spreading space communism owns rather than for any other reason
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Empress Theonora posted:At this point I’m like 80% sure this won’t continue into Stellaris, even though I like that game a whole lot, since it feels like it will take all of the narrative themes we’ve been building up since 1081 AD and jettison them into orbit. *chanting in the background* byzlp version of the v2 cold war mod
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Maybe add another sports game to the mix, does Football Simulator support the kinds of stuff you did with Out of the Park?
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 EMERGENCY VOTE With Operation Sanxian winding down, the fighting on the front lines of the Imperial War is in a lull as both sides draw up their next grand strategies and plan out future operations. This is just as well, as at this very moment, a diplomatic bomb has just been lobbed into the Red Rose Pact.   Hurriedly, a tense conference of top RRP leaders and diplomats was convened in Niandi, Ghana, to formulate their response to this most unexpected offer from the Red Maharani herself.  Aoife O'Connor, Tribune of the Irish Republic The Irish Republic learned the hard way that it's never a good idea to look a gift horse in the mouth when you're facing an existential war against fascism-- we know a thing or two about that from the civil wars. Although I'm as Marxist-Exteberrianist as it comes, defeating fascism took a big-tent approach to left-solidarity-- while Byzantine intervention finally tipped the scales against the Iron Heart Movement, the fact we survived long enough for that to happen is because we held our noses and recognized that in times of crisis, the Müllerist PNE were our comrades, too. It's true that right now we have the momentum and the strategic initiative-- winning the war without Marathan help is a likely outcome, although by no means an assured one-- the fortunes of war are fickle, and there are some indications from the Pact's intelligence services that l'arme absolue of Gallic propaganda refers to some sort of genuine and well-resourced weapons R&D effort. The intervention of Marathas would make victory that much more certain-- and, even if victory were already certain, Sharqi throwing her whole weight behind us will mean a victory that comes quicker and with lighter losses. Every day this war continues, more people die-- soldiers on the front, but civilians, too-- every European Pact member can attest to the effects of Gaul's campaign of terror bombing, and Hungarians and Byzantines in particular have borne the brunt of it. I'm sure we've all seen the haidagraphs of Milan, Ferrara, Venice, Budapest, Debrecen, and dozens of other great cities. The fascists continue to brutalize the citizens of the vast and populous territories they still occupy in Lithuania and Belgorod-- as well as the citizens of now-liberated areas who were deported to the WRE to serve as slave labour-- or worse. I don't trust Sharqi, but if she wants to help stop this, we should let her.   Mayneri Nitaino, Tribune of the Commune of Ayiti The Red Rose Pact is predicated on the power of the belief that the world can be better than it is. Ayiti, in the aftermath of the Second Great War, is testament to that-- we were treated not as vanquished enemies to be punished, but a federation of peoples as worthy of a future as anyone else in the International. Everything Ayiti is today is because Byzantium and her allies stayed true to their ideals. These ideals, then, are not liabilities-- they are our greatest strength. But-- very well-- let us concede that in times of war, pragmatism must win out. Marathi aid does not come with no strings attached-- it ties our fates to a government that's infamous for its capriciousness and unpredictability. Their help in the war might alleviate suffering now, but we must not lose sight of the longer-term consequences: it legitimizes and empowers Sharqi as she continues to inflict bloody purges upon the people and workers of Marathas. It gives Sharqi a seat at the table when the time comes to map out the post-war world. It would destabilize our relations with the Allies-- while Sharqi has, for the moment, supported them in the Jimao War against the World Prosperity Organization, she still dreams of seeing all India under her banner, and the Republic of Hindustan stands in her way. Or, even if she continues to prioritize her opposition to the Ming Empire, that could still further entangle us in the Jimao War, and I don't need to tell you the disastrous economic and human cost of getting ourselves embroiled in that intra-capitalist feud.  Is she likely to do any of those things? I don't know. And I don't think any of you know, either. Let's not stake the world's future on the restraint and diplomacy of Rishma Sharqi. THE VOTE:##Support the Scrappy Firebrand to accept Marathas's offer to join the Red Rose Pact as a full member and intervene against the WRE. ##Support the Charismatic Idealist to reject Marathas's offer and deny them entry into the Red Rose Pact. Empress Theonora fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist: We can win this war without sacrificing our principles, legitimizing a noxious regime, and tethering ourselves to an unpredictable and unreliable ally. If we go through with accepting them into the Red Rose Pact, we will have to live with that choice for generations.
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand Maybe the Red Rose will become entangled in the Jimao War. We likely would regardless. Maybe the nutball in charge of Marathas will prove a liability. Better to have her pissing out than in.
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist. A hard choice, but my gut tells me that bringing Marathas into the RRP is the trap choice that every megacampaign looks back at and says "why the gently caress did we support that?"
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand because I want to see Esperanza bint Ifrain al-Tammar-Wu forced to determine whether Sharqiism is 'really' Müllerism or not
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand Whatever consequences this woman brings with her, can they be worse than staring down the barrel of whatever madness Valeria calls her Final Weapon? Better to take the help and end this as soon as possible. We've already fought this war side by side with the Müllerists, and who knows where we'd be now had we prioritized intra-left factionalism over a unified front against the most brutal, violent and chauvinistic ideology the world has spawned yet? Might be interesting when their focus tree gets to Demand Kashmir. Who has that in this world? Is it the Ming? Akratic Method fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand She's wearing a red hat and is volunteering to help murder fascists, that's good enough for me. We can sort out the aftermath once we actually win, we're already in this deep with liberals to one side and Müllerists on the other, what's one more eclectic tendency for the big tent? Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand Friends close and enemies closer, who are we to turn down one more comrade against fascism?
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand While Gallic fascism is certainly our pressing threat, and one which must be dealt with as swiftly as possible, we must begin preparations for our inevitable struggle against corporate fascism as well. Marathas is positioned to serve as a key ally and launching point to deter interference from the WPO and support socialist revolution across the continent.
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand When the histories of this day are written, I will not be found wanting by 14 year olds on Twitter.
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Pacho posted:
holy poo poo Incredible.
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist I'm not 100% sure that giving Marathas more chance to re-arm and build up industrial capacity at peace is the path to weakening them that some hope, but I am sure their inevitable entry into the eastern conflict would happen at the worst possible time if we were to entangle our fates to theirs.
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist Sharqi is just too much of a wildcard
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We would abandon all of our morals just because it's the end of the world? Unconscionable. ##Support the Charismatic Idealist
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist to avoid eastern entanglements
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##Support the Scrappy Firebrand
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist This here is the "no vriskas" club. Sorry, but I don't make the rules.
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Lookit all the libs pretending to be leftists here while we're literally at war with the fascists.
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Try telling a lithuanian that the Marathi are too compromised to be good comrades 
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##Support the Charismatic Idealist
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