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Shinji2015 posted:I was doing a ST marathon a few years ago during the early days of the pandemic, but I never finished Enterprise because of how mad it made me. Yeah T'Pol's ancestor who coincidentally looks exactly like her, T'Mir. And yeah that fan service stuff was bullshit and everyone on the set knew it. The fun thing about that episode is it establishes that in Star Trek Prime Universe, vulcans invented Velcro.
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Timby posted:Scripts that were mediocre at best and loving godawful at worst (lookin' at you, Nemesis). The very core concept of Nemesis is a decent idea (Romulans clone Picard to make his ultimate enemy) because you got a whole Nature versus Nurture thing happening which is absolutely the sort of philosophical bullshit good Trek thrives on. But then yeah, the whole thing is a god damned mess. It's always funny to me when I remember Tom Hardy played the Picard clone. Mcavoy is a much better young Patrick Stewart.
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Goddamn you guys really get going whenever Star Trek is brought up. (Not a complaint - I just find it funny)
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Dango Bango posted:Goddamn you guys really get going whenever Star Trek is brought up. I've been a moderator at Trek BBS for more than 20 years.  (And I'm currently the #2 admin.)
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And I decided like six or eight years ago to just re-watch "all of trek" and so it's more fresh in my memory. Although I still haven't watched the original animated series. Not sure if I have the willpower.
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When it was on Netflix I got through the first 3 seasons of Next Generation after only having watched apparently the same 50 episodes in syndication multiple times as a kid. I enjoyed how utterly trashy and messy the first season was. What a ride.
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Leperflesh posted:And I decided like six or eight years ago to just re-watch "all of trek" and so it's more fresh in my memory. Although I still haven't watched the original animated series. Not sure if I have the willpower. There was someone in CineD years ago that did that (well before any of the streaming Paramount shows, probably around the first Abrams Trek film) and they actually liked the animated series quite a bit. They were doing it from a sort of social justice lens, pointing out how loving racist TNG was with their portrayal of Worf etc.
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Star Trek: First Contact is a mashup of the 2 best OG movies: The Wrath of Khan and The Voyage Home. Very now & then the Hollywood Theater here in Portland shows their 35mm print of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and I go see it.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Star Trek: First Contact is a mashup of the 2 best OG movies: The Wrath of Khan and The Voyage Home. Like a third of Star Trek films are remakes of Wrath of Khan in some form or another.
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Leperflesh posted:And I decided like six or eight years ago to just re-watch "all of trek" and so it's more fresh in my memory. Although I still haven't watched the original animated series. Not sure if I have the willpower. The original animated series has some absolutely classic episodes. Kalli posted:I enjoyed how utterly trashy and messy the first season was. What a ride. That's what happens when the show is being run by a senile, paranoid, coked-out lunatic. And his lawyer. Like, Gene Roddenberry was out of his goddamn gourd. Skwirl posted:There was someone in CineD years ago that did that (well before any of the streaming Paramount shows, probably around the first Abrams Trek film) and they actually liked the animated series quite a bit. They were doing it from a sort of social justice lens, pointing out how loving racist TNG was with their portrayal of Worf etc. That was SubG.
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One thing I was surprised to learn from listening to Nextlander's podcast about the first season of Star Trek was that Khan was actually in a few episodes before the movie.
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Kalli posted:One thing I was surprised to learn from listening to Nextlander's podcast about the first season of Star Trek was that Khan was actually in a few episodes before the movie. Only one, Space Seed, in the first season of the original series. The episode ends with him and his supermen being left on Ceti Alpha V, and there's a tag from Kirk saying, basically, "I wonder what they'll be like and how they'll be doing down the road," which is what gave new producer Harve Bennett the idea of using Khan in the second movie.
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Also for as bad Tasha Yar got treated in season 1 of TNG, man the descriptions of what poor Yeoman Rand went through as an actorTimby posted:Only one, Space Seed, in the first season of the original series. The episode ends with him and his supermen being left on Ceti Alpha V, and there's a tag from Kirk saying, basically, "I wonder what they'll be like and how they'll be doing down the road," which is what gave new producer Harve Bennett the idea of using Khan in the second movie. As Ice Cube famously rapped: Still getting swole off bread and water.
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Kalli posted:One thing I was surprised to learn from listening to Nextlander's podcast about the first season of Star Trek was that Khan was actually in a few episodes before the movie. It's a loving wild episode. A woman on the ship, an actual officer in Starfleet, is so charmed by Khan and his fascinating ethos based on a glib, infantile reading of history that she basically says "gently caress it, I wanna be evil if it means I can be with youuu" and enables his bullshit. And then like Timby said they just leave him on some poo poo insanely hostile planet and I guess starfleet never goes back to check on them ever again. Kalli posted:Also for as bad Tasha Yar got treated in season 1 of TNG, man the descriptions of what poor Yeoman Rand went through as an actor Terry Farrell, who played Jadzia Dax, also had to deal with constant on-set sexual harassment. e. This is another loving twitter thread and I'm very sorry about that but it's a pretty good complication of Rick Berman's Bullshit Towards Women https://twitter.com/thisismewhatevs/status/1360745990895108103?lang=en Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Kalli posted:Also for as bad Tasha Yar got treated in season 1 of TNG, man the descriptions of what poor Yeoman Rand went through as an actor Grace Lee Whitney had it rough. Raped by a Desilu executive, hooked on diet pills, let go after appearing in only eight of the first fifteen episodes. Leperflesh posted:It's a loving wild episode. A woman on the ship, an actual officer in Starfleet, is so charmed by Khan and his fascinating ethos based on a glib, infantile reading of history that she basically says "gently caress it, I wanna be evil if it means I can be with youuu" and enables his bullshit. And then like Timby said they just leave him on some poo poo insanely hostile planet and I guess starfleet never goes back to check on them ever again. Ceti Alpha V as of the time of Space Seed was relatively similar to Earth. Ceti Alpha VI's explosion, a year after the supermen were put there, is what ruined Ceti Alpha V's atmosphere and turned it into a hellscape. 
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I may be remembering it wrong and it might be due to the "enhancements" they made to TOS to get them up to high-def for streaming off of amazon/paramount+, but I think as they fly away from Ceti Alpha 5 you can see the planet's like, red? e. I dunno but yeah you're right quote:Kirk: : "Mister Spock, our heading takes us near the Ceti Alpha star system." Love the implication that Australia was uninhabited and needed to be tamed Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Leperflesh posted:I may be remembering it wrong and it might be due to the "enhancements" they made to TOS to get them up to high-def for streaming off of amazon/paramount+, but I think as they fly away from Ceti Alpha 5 you can see the planet's like, red? To be fair a Ceti Alpha V ear leech would only be like the 16th or 17th scariest thing in Australia with regards to native fauna. Also, didn't Ross run through all the Treks around the pandemic?
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Leperflesh posted:I may be remembering it wrong and it might be due to the "enhancements" they made to TOS to get them up to high-def for streaming off of amazon/paramount+, but I think as they fly away from Ceti Alpha 5 you can see the planet's like, red? Hey, those holes in the ozone weren’t going to make themselves!
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I'm going to Vegas this weekend for a bach party Let's check in on the weather https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1625578039991222272 https://twitter.com/staybloodred/status/1625577466436915200 https://twitter.com/CC_StormWatch/status/1625607115497951232 i see
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kiimo posted:I'm going to Vegas this weekend for a bach party most people like tocatta and fugue in d minor but personally I prefer the passacaglia
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kiimo posted:I'm going to Vegas this weekend for a bach party We just got 9 inches of snow in Dubuque last Wednesday / Thursday, and now that we've had a few days of it melting, that new winter storm is projected to drop another eight or nine inches of snow on us starting tomorrow night. 
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swickles posted:To be fair a Ceti Alpha V ear leech would only be like the 16th or 17th scariest thing in Australia with regards to native fauna. I think he's pointing out there were already people in Australia before the Brits started sending convicts there.
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Leperflesh posted:most people like tocatta and fugue in d minor but personally I prefer the passacaglia It's a Johann Sebachelor Bach party
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kiimo posted:I'm going to Vegas this weekend for a bach party Huh, and I was just doomerism-ing with a friend about how warm it's been all winter (we've had maybe 3-4 inches of snow combined outside Boston). Anyway, I was reading this earlier if you want a fun read about how Florida's dealing with rising sea levels https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/crumbling-seawalls-rising-seas-fort-lauderdale-crackdown-on-way/ar-AA17mxhX Anyone with a house on the coast is basically gonna be forced to shell out 10's to hundreds of thousands of dollars to raise seawalls in Fort Lauderdale and a bunch of other cities. quote:One resident asked whether the city, state or federal government was offering a bailout or grants to help homeowners repair their seawalls.
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Kalli posted:Huh, and I was just doomerism-ing with a friend about how warm it's been all winter (we've had maybe 3-4 inches of snow combined outside Boston). lol amazing
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Skwirl posted:I think he's pointing out there were already people in Australia before the Brits started sending convicts there. And those people had altered the landscape to suit their survival strategies for 40k years, if anyone tamed the landscape it was them. The brits showed up and tried to grow inappropriate crops, introduced invasive species, and generally did badly and were on the edge of starvation for years; but they had guns and a constant supply of additional supplies and labor arriving, they weren't independent ever. Kirk is telling Khan to start the equivalent of a penal colony on a completely uninhabited planet with almost no supplies, and then offers no resupply. Nobody even bothers to check and see if they are still alive after a year. It's super hosed up. kiimo posted:It's a Johann Sebachelor Bach party That owns
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Also Star Trek Prodigy is amazing. People should give it a shot
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Leperflesh posted:The brits...had guns Unrelated but this just made me think about the emu war that they lost and laugh again.
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Australia talk reminds me of this scene I just watched this morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffzv6pC5P3I Yeah it's a fabricated tale but to really believe the natives didn't have an actual name for "kangaroo" showed how gullible colonel Webber was.
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Enemy Mine came up earlier and no one else said it so i want to point out that the reason the movie's third act is such a weird pivot with the evil miners is because an executive was confused by the movie's title and demanded there be a literal Enemy Mine in it for an action climax
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Leperflesh posted:most people like tocatta and fugue in d minor but personally I prefer the passacaglia I appreciate this post.
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It is with great pleasure that I get to share this ground breaking news: New Trigun is good
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Android Apocalypse posted:Australia talk reminds me of this scene I just watched this morning: my interpretation of that scene isn't that the natives didn't have a name for kangaroo, but rather that they didn't understand what was being asked ("what is that thing called") god Arrival is such a good movie though Alaois posted:Enemy Mine came up earlier and no one else said it so i want to point out that the reason the movie's third act is such a weird pivot with the evil miners is because an executive was confused by the movie's title and demanded there be a literal Enemy Mine in it for an action climax ahahaha oh my god is that true, it feels like it can't possibly be true
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Kalli posted:Huh, and I was just doomerism-ing with a friend about how warm it's been all winter (we've had maybe 3-4 inches of snow combined outside Boston). Good IMO. the government should not by ponying up to help protect private residences just so they can live by the ocean. gently caress em.
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Timby posted:I've been a moderator at Trek BBS for more than 20 years. What's the best star trek slap fight you have witnessed?
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hosed up one thing on this trip: got my tickets to Siem reap wrong. Was gonna shoot over, see Angkor wat, the shoot back but hosed up the dates. would cost 1k to change them on short notice. and airasia is completely useless poo poo.
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I know someone who knows Jolene Blalock and as a result have been to a couple parties she was also at, for your Seven SA Posters of Separation games in future.
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e: I've been had.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:It is with great pleasure that I get to share this ground breaking news: Haven't watched the latest episode of it yet, but agreed. Recency bias and all, but I think I like it more than OG Trigun so far
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Kalli posted:Anyway, I was reading this earlier if you want a fun read about how Florida's dealing with rising sea levels Our first house was probably 3mi from Ft Sumter and maybe 250yds from Clark Sound on James Island (just inland from morris island and folly beach). We were paying something like 1500/yr for NFIP flood insurance on the pre-FIRM maps, because the house was built in 1960. When Matthew hit, I boarded up the house, packed up my very pregnant wife and sent her to North Carolina with her mom, then drove to work fully expecting to lose our home. It hit at low tide. The debris line from the tidal creek across the street stopped maybe 10ft from my front steps. We had our child, and sold the home maybe 5 or 6mo later, because we knew eventually updated flood zoning would have ruined us. It was the most “home” I’ve ever had and I miss it every day, but I will never live that close to the water again. E: god I got sad as hell just typing that. I want to clarify that I would live near a mountain lake. LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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