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Madurai posted:Against the advice of the thread, I have begun watching Picard Season 2. It's okay to drop out whenever. I think I did after like four episodes. Sometimes my wife will ask me "wait, don't we have more Picard to watch?" and I'll pretend to see a cool bird out the window or something.
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External Organs posted:It's okay to drop out whenever. I think I did after like four episodes. Sometimes my wife will ask me "wait, don't we have more Picard to watch?" and I'll pretend to see a cool bird out the window or something. Really I'd say the first, second, and last episode of the season are mostly fine and ignore the 7 inbetween lol
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Feb 14, 2023 20:31
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happyhippy posted:Lucas Wolenczak. I idolized that character so much, was just under his age at the time and I so wanted to be a computer whiz kid that did amazing poo poo. I totally had a crush on him when I was 10 and didn't know what a crush was. (or even that I was into guys yet)
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Feb 14, 2023 20:34
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Charity Porno posted:Really I'd say the first, second, and last episode of the season are mostly fine and ignore the 7 inbetween lol The first half hour of Episode 3 is pretty good too before they just go into aimlessly wandering around downtown LA for the next 7 hours. From there, there's scattered bits that are good that you can watch on YouTube, like the Agnes vs. the Borg Queen mind battle/"Shit_I_Stole_From_The_Borg_Queen.exe", the confrontation between Gainun and Q in the FBI lockup, any scene with James Callis in it, and then skip right to the goddamn ending.
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Feb 14, 2023 20:44
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I got very angry at Voyager more often than was good for me, but the episode where Janeway got to hang out with (Tuvok's memory of) Captain Sulu was loving awesome.
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Feb 14, 2023 20:50
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Jerusalem posted:I got very angry at Voyager more often than was good for me, but the episode where Janeway got to hang out with (Tuvok's memory of) Captain Sulu was loving awesome.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:03
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Knormal posted:I was so annoyed that it wasn't the real Sulu when that episode aired. There was all that buildup for the Trek 25th anniversary, DS9 gave us the fun Trials and Tribblations, then Voyager gives us a dream sequence. It also gave us a very handy continuity error, as Valtane is seen on the bridge at the end of The Undiscovered Country, but in Flashback, he dies before the Battle of Khitomer.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:13
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What's weird is he didn't have to die, he could have just thought he was going to die to have the brain thing jump to Tuvok and it would still work. Or Tuvok's brain disease was already ramping up Or it was Valtane's twin brother/transporter clone
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Feb 14, 2023 23:47
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Alchenar posted:You know what, I think that's the core of it. The show is telling me this teen is a prodigy but showing me a 15 year old who's acting like a 10 year old. Timby posted:It also gave us a very handy continuity error, as Valtane is seen on the bridge at the end of The Undiscovered Country, but in Flashback, he dies before the Battle of Khitomer.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:56
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TheCenturion posted:The memories most people have of TOS are from pop culture osmosis, not actually watching it. This was true in the 80s and it’s more true now. Another example is "horny Kirk." He was actually a very serious, by the book captain. He had swagger, but was also very intellectual and professional. The fact that Anson Mount is doing so good portraying Pike as one of the all around best captains is made amazing by the fact that Shatner's Kirk set such an incredibly high bar.
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Feb 15, 2023 01:36
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They should retcon Generations to say Harriman was a Lieutenant just being called Captain by position and that was why he was so green
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Feb 15, 2023 02:31
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Nah, Harriman was fine, he was just apparently the only person aware that this was literally just an engine test and not an actual real launch and they were flying a ship that hadn't been outfitted or given a crew into a disaster situation. The Enterprise-B wasn't remotely ready for the situation and the part where he tries to signal another ship to take care of it genuinely was the best choice under the circumstances.
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Feb 15, 2023 02:40
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Well it's possible RLM said it so it may be invalid, but the Enterprise-B being "the only ship in range" within Earth's solar system is pretty dumb from a writing standpoint
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Feb 15, 2023 02:42
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Charity Porno posted:Well it's possible RLM said it so it may be invalid, but the Enterprise-B being "the only ship in range" within Earth's solar system is pretty dumb from a writing standpoint I read that as it was the only ship that could get to the refugee ships before they were destroyed. Sure there were Mirandas tooling around the Solar System, but they were half the speed. The Enteprise-B was probably the fastest ship in the fleet and the refugee ships were failing very quickly. Similarly, in TMP, there were probably other ships in Sol that could've intercepted V'ger, but the Enterprise was the only Starship. Not defence vessel or patrol cutter or transport, but Starship, which had been established in TOS to explicitly mean those huge, multifunction multicapable ships. Kirk was of the belief that was needed. (And also had a vested interest in having the Enterprise be the interceptor.) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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MikeJF posted:I read that as it was the only ship that could get to the refugee ships before they were destroyed. Sure there were Mirandas tooling around the Solar System, but they were half the speed. The Enteprise-B was probably the fastest ship in the fleet and the refugee ships were failing very quickly. The "only ship that can make it in time" makes much more sense, but sadly "the only ship in range" is snappier and accomplishes basically the same thing in the mind of a general, non nerd-brain addled audience.
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Feb 15, 2023 02:55
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It's well known in the fleet that the Enterprise smells funny and makes a weird squishing noise, which is why it's frequently the only ship in a region.
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Feb 15, 2023 02:57
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nine-gear crow posted:The "only ship that can make it in time" makes much more sense, but sadly "the only ship in range" is snappier and accomplishes basically the same thing in the mind of a general, non nerd-brain addled audience. Eh, a ship's range can be meant as a function of speed and permitted time, fanwanking 'the only ship in range' to mean the only ship that can make it in time is a perfectly valid fanwank.
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Charity Porno posted:Well it's possible RLM said it so it may be invalid, but the Enterprise-B being "the only ship in range" within Earth's solar system is pretty dumb from a writing standpoint This was the absolute norm of Star Trek at the time, it wasn't until years later that DS9 bloated the size of Starfleet by like 100x and it turned into a completely unlikely scenario
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Astroman posted:Another example is "horny Kirk." He was actually a very serious, by the book captain. He had swagger, but was also very intellectual and professional. I mean, we did just watch the entirety of TOS and he absolutely is hornt constantly, there's a love interest for him in every other episode. But generally speaking yeah, he was a lot more professional than the popular perception, and that's one reason I hated the Kobayashi Maru sequence in ST09.
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Feb 15, 2023 04:53
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The show is what’s horny. Kirk’s just along for the ride. If he’s got to seduce his way out of trouble, by god he’ll do it. Or if he’s unmanned by having been clonked on the head. Or if he’s tied up and can’t stop them from kissing him or whatever. Writers loved putting Kirk in situations of vaguely sexualized peril. TOS is the horniest Trek show to date. That entire crew got it. Except Scotty, who serially killed women while possessed by the ghost of Jack the Ripper. He never scored
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Feb 15, 2023 05:13
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Scotty banged Jeffrey's tube
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Feb 15, 2023 05:28
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 Noticed two things about this shot of the (holographic) Wayfarer: - hey, someone left the captain's yacht turned on! - ...were they trying to go for the 'pearlescent' look of the TMP Enterprise hull? 
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Feb 15, 2023 05:53
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Maybe! The wayfarer in general had lots of coloured specular, it had that cool blue-stripe paintjob and the black areas of the hull were a heavy purple sheen to complement that. None of that was present on the real sovereign USS Van Citters that we saw in the finale, it had a regular matte hull.
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Oof there is some gnarly compression going on with your screencap (although part of that is also the comically overwrought film grain filter they put in for the holofilm scenes)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
It's the proper canonical paint job you put on all your cars in the Saints Row games
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I feel like it was a bit of a joke/tribute to games like STO where you can customise the hull and everyone makes it shiny and gives it cool racing stripes.Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Oof there is some gnarly compression going on with your screencap Yeah it was a quick youtube screencap. 
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It blows my mind that they wrote that the last three Enterprises together have a service-life less than the original's. They're still going to show an Excelsior class ship in service too, aren't they?
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Feb 15, 2023 07:01
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Follow the latinum, explains the overproduction
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Payndz posted:Meanwhile Picard season 2 has a flashback Picard who looks 10 but acts like he's five. (Which would have made infinitely more sense for the awful "wait, it was actually my mother who was the terrible monster I was scared of!" reveal.) That kinda makes sense production wise. Most 5 year olds are terrible actors. Just awful. No craftsmanship at all. So when they want to tell a story about a little kid they usually use an actor somewhat older.
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TerminalRaptor posted:It blows my mind that they wrote that the last three Enterprises together have a service-life less than the original's. To be fair, considering the wide array of utter horseshit we've watched at least 3 of the Enterprises go through on a weekly basis, it's amazing Starfleet isn't up to the Enterprise ZZ by now.
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From the last page, but my absolute favorite Sulu moment is from Wolf in the Fold when he gets shot up with a McCoy concoction and is all loopy with the absolute banger of a delivery with "with an arm load of this stuff, I wouldn't be scared of a suuupernovaaa!" Takei nailed that dreamily drugged up goofiness.
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In Picard season 3 episode 4, Picard says "Quick! We've got to take the Captain's yacht!" but he pronounces it "yahkt'. Riker looks at him weird and he says "I've always pronounced it yahkt'!" Then you pause it and you check TNG and it's true, he says yahkt several times.
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Feb 15, 2023 08:20
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But why would you suddenly make Picard the primary antagonist of the series just like that???
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
Wayfarer is a fantastic name for a Starfleet ship. It’s not militaristic and doesn’t refer to an Earth person or place that wouldn’t mean anything to people from other Federation planets.
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skasion posted:The show is what’s horny. Kirk’s just along for the ride. If he’s got to seduce his way out of trouble, by god he’ll do it. Or if he’s unmanned by having been clonked on the head. Or if he’s tied up and can’t stop them from kissing him or whatever. Writers loved putting Kirk in situations of vaguely sexualized peril. Yup. TOS was always clear that the Enterprise was Kirk's true love. Sure, he'll bang, but it was never of the 'Spock, I....KNOW...that the COLONY IS IN DAN-ger. But...look....at....the....nacelles......ON THAT GREEN CHICK. I....HAVE to HAVE HER.' On the other hand, there's a reason the entire fanfiction genre was kicked off by Kirk/Spock. http://www.dreamshore.net/bluejay/lovetrek.mp3 - believed to be from 1972.
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Feb 15, 2023 12:44
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Spock is also Kirk's true love
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpq7kprPf8s
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Actual Satan posted:I think picard season 3 will be better than discovery season 5. That's a bit like saying "I think horse poo poo will taste better than bull poo poo"
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It probably would, tho
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I forgot Disco S5 was coming and its whole “treasure hunt” plot. We’re five years in and the show still has no idea what it wants to be. It’s the television version of the high school kid who kept changing cliques every year.
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