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Anyone who has ever read three issues of Aaron's Avengers run and three issues of the current Moon Knight run have all they need to know about who should write Avengers. As a big Aaron fan, I feel like after the Death of Jane Foster arc ended and Thor became Thor again his work just hasn't done anything for me. I like a lot about the current Avengers book in theory but it just isn't good. I like the idea of a good team book but it just mostly doesn't work historically either. Thinking about it since the announcement, I am actually pretty excited to see what Mackay can do with this plain rear end team. It's all the big guys you would expect to be in the book, and honestly a skillfully executed version of something straightforward that doesn't need to rely on wacky gimmicks is how you produce something that is an Avengers touchstone for years to come.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 12:59 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 05:14 |
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TwoPair posted:I think that's just the nature of the beast with team books, which generally ignore a lot of developments in other characters' solo books (unless they happen to lead into events!) which might distract from team stuff. Like for instance Black Panther (hey it's him again!) spent a long-rear end time in space but never left the Avengers at all. No matter what's going on in Wolverine's solo book he can appear on like 3 different X-Men teams whenever they need him. Yeah, we're far from the Shooter days when they rigorously tried to keep this stuff straight but there were probably fewer books to keep straight, too.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 14:59 |
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I can't believe I'm enjoying a Spidey book staring Norman Osborne more than the main Spider-Man book.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 15:25 |
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Dawgstar posted:The writer of characters with recent movies and Disney+ series? Not really. “Aren’t fringe like they used to be” My image of those characters is still in the 70’s and 80’s. Besides Black Cat, Vulpes seems to be the “We got a movie/tv show/toyline featuring this character: Write a book about it.” guy. Don’t know if this has anything to do with him being put on Avengers.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 15:47 |
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Keep in mind that the only reason their status as aliens matters is due to the strict "Don't kill humans" law of Krakoa. Absent that, Magik tends to fall into the Wolverine-like mind set of "Kill anyone who's trying to kill me." Which isn't exactly moral, but is understandable. Nilbop posted:Magik fits the modern interpretation of morally grey, in so much that she's just evil, but she's hot so everyone goes with it. It's my understanding that, except for a period where she literally didn't have a soul, she tends to do mostly good, but views herself as evil due to a traumatic, demon filled childhood combined with prophecies of her turning into a demonic queen.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 16:27 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:Don’t you speak that evil into existence, site! a bad post deserved an equally bad response
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 16:35 |
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Magik went through a lot of trauma. She was kind of raised to be evil, but she tries to do good. It's kind of like a struggle with nature vs. nurture. She's not inherently a bad person but growing up in Limbo kind of messed with the perception of good and evil. But she's fiercely loyal and will protect anyone from having to go though poo poo she went though.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 16:54 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's either a con or else tony and maria both suddenly became completely incompetent when they hadn't been throughout this story. I really hope it's a con, because that would mean the Skrull from Squirrel Girl wasn't murdered. Would be a really awful ending for her. That is some great art. Really excited for the book.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 17:28 |
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Anyone who has ever read three issues of Aaron's Avengers run and three issues of the current Moon Knight run have all they need to know about who should write Avengers. As a big Aaron fan, I feel like after the Death of Jane Foster arc ended and Thor became Thor again his work just hasn't done anything for me. I like a lot about the current Avengers book in theory but it just isn't good. I like the idea of a good team book but it just mostly doesn't work historically either. I think the main problem with Aaron's run is that nothing feels like it has any weight to it. We careen from one world-destroying event to the next with no consequence. Khonshu took over New York off-panel. Starbrand grew up off-panel (twice). I genuinely missed the end to the whole Agent Coulson thing and it's never been referenced again. That's before we got into the extremely long arc about multiversal variants of established heros and villains getting destroyed by the dozens but resulting in nothing. It's just all bright, colorful sludge. I appreciate Aaron wanting to go as big as he could, but I don't think he's a good fit for team books. quote:Thinking about it since the announcement, I am actually pretty excited to see what Mackay can do with this plain rear end team. It's all the big guys you would expect to be in the book, and honestly a skillfully executed version of something straightforward that doesn't need to rely on wacky gimmicks is how you produce something that is an Avengers touchstone for years to come. I have so little interest in Sam and Vision, but I think Vision's problem is his design 60's-rear end design. He really needs the Carol treatment with a new costume.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 17:58 |
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Nilbop posted:I have so little interest in Sam and Vision, but I think Vision's problem is his design 60's-rear end design. He really needs the Carol treatment with a new costume. I can’t disagree more. Keep him bright and candy colored
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 18:05 |
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thetoughestbean posted:I can’t disagree more. Keep him bright and candy colored We love our robotic pez dispenser, don't we folks
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 18:11 |
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It's not Vision's original costume. It's certainly reminiscent of it, but it's different. Anyway, it's good.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:21 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Magik went through a lot of trauma. She was kind of raised to be evil, but she tries to do good. It's kind of like a struggle with nature vs. nurture. She's not inherently a bad person but growing up in Limbo kind of messed with the perception of good and evil. Would a truly good person do this though?
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:57 |
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howe_sam posted:Would a truly good person do this though? Don’t threaten me with a good time.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 19:59 |
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howe_sam posted:Would a truly good person do this though? That's the demon who gave Cameron Hodge eternal life, eventually resulting in the monstrosity below, among other sins. I feel like this is a light sentence considering.
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 20:18 |
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Open Marriage Night posted:I know Doctor Strange and Moon Knight aren’t fringe like they used to be, but it still feels like a leap for editorial to offer the writer of those books the Avengers. Stern was writer for doctor strange before avengers
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# ? Feb 10, 2023 21:47 |
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According to my local store, Vulpes's Strange has been a huge seller. If he's able to drive sales for a less prestigious character like Clea, it makes sense for Marvel to see what he can do with the Avengers.
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# ? Feb 11, 2023 02:53 |
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So I gave the current Black Panther run a look after hearing it put some flaws in his persona and gave him a little bit of a depantsing and I'd be interested in hearing what the general fan reaction is? T'Challa has been on a pedestal for a long while now and he's getting it pretty hard in his book. I find it interesting, but I'm just a simple country hyper-chicken.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 06:45 |
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Him being mad about democracy is pretty good, and the newest issue is easily one of the best Namor appearances in years. It's a pretty interesting take on Wakanda more than anything. The former monarch being grumpy he can't order his private death squads to instantly solve problems with no oversight is something I didn't know I wanted.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 16:21 |
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I've been enjoying the current Black Panther run but, ye gods and little fishes, I loving hate the way Steve is portrayed in it.
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# ? Feb 12, 2023 23:53 |
I assume the Mouse is setting Vulpes up to mastermind the new hero of phase 6 of the MCU: Bats the Ghost Hound.
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# ? Feb 13, 2023 08:17 |
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He's going to rush in and save Strange from that weird evil eye, then go on a walk after a nap. It'll make a billions in the box office.
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 02:17 |
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I can't remember if it was itt we were pining for more dauterman interiors https://twitter.com/rdauterman/status/1625586474505887744?s=19
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# ? Feb 14, 2023 21:17 |
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The explanation of What Reed Did in FF this week is why you hire Ryan North to write the comic. Excellent mad science.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 15:36 |
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Is Scarlet Witch a mini series or ongoing? It's an neat set up and I'm enjoying it but I don't know how much staying power it has.
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 16:01 |
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Azubah posted:Is Scarlet Witch a mini series or ongoing? It's an neat set up and I'm enjoying it but I don't know how much staying power it has. I think it’s an ongoing - that’s what the Wikipedia page for current Marvel publications says at least
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 17:12 |
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it's ongoing right up until it's announced that they stealth cancelled it two months ago and the last issue is about to come out like every other book they cancel
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 17:24 |
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howe_sam posted:The explanation of What Reed Did in FF this week is why you hire Ryan North to write the comic. Excellent mad science. I was about to post something like that. That's exactly the kind of Sci-Fi nonsense Reed would come up with. Hey Kevin Feige, I know you're reading this. Make Ryan North the head writer for the MCU Fantastic Four movie!
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 22:40 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:I was about to post something like that. That's exactly the kind of Sci-Fi nonsense Reed would come up with. Ryan also consulted with Chip Zdarsky to make Batman's fall from the moon seem at least a little plausible. Love that useful nerd!
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# ? Feb 15, 2023 23:08 |
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howe_sam posted:The explanation of What Reed Did in FF this week is why you hire Ryan North to write the comic. Excellent mad science. They didn't wait for 19+ issues to explain it? Madness!
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 05:36 |
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howe_sam posted:The explanation of What Reed Did in FF this week is why you hire Ryan North to write the comic. Excellent mad science. Hey, Aunt Petunia. I can't remember the last time I saw her show up in the comics.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 05:59 |
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The last time (and one of the few times) she appeared was only a few years ago. In terms of actually appearing in comics as opposed to being mentioned, she didn't appear until the early 1980s when she showed up in two issues of Byrne's Fantastic Four (where it's revealed she's basically Johnny's age and married Ben's considerably older uncle when she was a "student nurse"). The joke is that Johnny is horny for her until he find out she's Aunt Petunia, mostly. She next appears twenty five years later for a single panel in the last issue of Dan Slott's Thing book when she's at Ben's bar mitzvah. Then Mark Millar has THE MARQUIS OF DEATH incinerate her off panel to prove he's a very bad person. A few years later Matt Fraction's run has Ben Grimm travel back to the 1930s and it's implied an adult woman named Petunia might just be his aunt, though that obviously doesn't make any sense at all even if she was old as balls when Sliding Timescale Ben Grimm was a kid in the 1980s. Dan Slott ignored absolutely all of that in his recently ended run, having Aunt Petunia show up for Ben and Alicia's wedding and be a) age-appropriate for both being Ben Grimm's aunt and her elderly doctor husband's wife b) not a pile of charred bones and c) not over 120 years old. Can't say I really blame him for any of these choices. What will Ryan North opt for? A 25 year old? A 70 year old? A 150 year old? A talking pile of scorched remains? We shall see!
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 06:45 |
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Recent Black Cat and MJ was pretty great and directly answered my suspicion about BC's bad luck powers.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 14:37 |
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howe_sam posted:The explanation of What Reed Did in FF this week is why you hire Ryan North to write the comic. Excellent mad science. Kind of a dick move to make it Counter-Earth's problem, though. I'm joking.
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# ? Feb 16, 2023 22:02 |
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I read Marvel books through Unlimited so I'm 3 months back from current releases, and I just read FF #1. Reed, Peter Parker, and Hulk. Did everyone just completely lose their poo poo in an off panel story preceding the current runs? Can't wait to read about how mad everyone is at Squirrel Girl, because 6 months ago she did something terrible and we'll find out in a few months to a year what that was. (she ate nuts and kicked butts too hard)
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 06:17 |
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Dammit Marvel, stop teasing me and just put all of Quasar up on Unlimited!! I’m happy with the trickle the last few weeks but just put the rest up!! Is Wendell Vaughn going to be in the next Guardians movie or something? As much as I love it going up (no matter how gradually), it’s odd that they’re adding a generally little-regarded series from 30 years ago on there
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 06:25 |
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Lucifunk posted:Can't wait to read about how mad everyone is at Squirrel Girl, because 6 months ago she did something terrible and we'll find out in a few months to a year what that was. (she ate nuts and kicked butts too hard) "Doreen, no! You can't kick Eternity's butt!" "WATCH ME" *black holes open all over the place as Doreen kicks Eternity's rear end six ways to Sunday*
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 06:40 |
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GPTribefan posted:Dammit Marvel, stop teasing me and just put all of Quasar up on Unlimited!! I’m happy with the trickle the last few weeks but just put the rest up!! I'm just happy they're back to putting old stuff back up. Seemed like they stopped for a while.
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 15:31 |
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Lucifunk posted:I read Marvel books through Unlimited so I'm 3 months back from current releases, and I just read FF #1. Fortunately, they've already revealed everything in this weeks issue #4. Only stretched that mystery out long enough to get the FF out of New York and have some couples/solo one shots. Was late to this weeks issues, but really enjoyed everything on my pull list. Ryan really gets the Fantastic Four, and makes each one of them shine. Mary Jane and Black Cat remains unsurprisingly fun. Wasp #2 gave me all the Nadia kicking-butt I was hoping for (albeit with a concerning cliffhanger that in no way is going to stick). Iron Man, which I hopped on after finding out it would tie into some of Duggan's X-Men plots, has also been pretty good.
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# ? Feb 17, 2023 16:51 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 05:14 |
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the reveal for ff was the perfect mix of smart, stupid, and good intentions. it's so very reed richards.
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# ? Feb 18, 2023 04:23 |