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Gort posted:the plot was always dumb, cowardly "both sides are bad the truth is in the middle here's a lighthouse so you can tell we're insightful" trash  Just Another Lurker posted:I'm not even sure he actually liked oranges.
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Now is as near an opportunity as there ever was for Corbyn & the unions to move over to the greens. This has been your morning vibes based politics dumped here for everyone to pick apart the problems.
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Feb 15, 2023 17:02
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All his ties are red ones. And it's 4 in the afternoon.
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Feb 15, 2023 17:04
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If only it were the Land's end.
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Feb 15, 2023 17:05
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Aphex- posted:British Gas are a producer (what you call extractor) as well as a supplier. Most suppliers are still on the same margins they were beforehand. They can't actually be both. Centrica (who own British gas) are a producer. The ability to do both was legally split to increase competition by stopping companies with production arms giving preferential treatment to themselves. That allowed a bunch of smaller players to flood in who did some good things but are now all bust. This is the glorious free market in action.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Now is as near an opportunity as there ever was for Corbyn & the unions to move over to the greens. This has been your morning vibes based politics dumped here for everyone to pick apart the problems. Would be real interesting if Corbyn tries to join the Greens. I'm guessing they wouldn't even let him in
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If you haven't been to Land's End but get the opportunity to do so, don't bother, it's poo poo
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Rarity posted:Would be real interesting if Corbyn tries to join the Greens. I'm guessing they wouldn't even let him in I don’t think it’s a good idea anyway, but: when Starmer became leader and people started leaving Labour in their droves, the Greens released a statement that basically amounted to ‘if all you antisemites are thinking of coming here instead you can gently caress off’, so I wouldn’t count on it…
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:If you haven't been to Land's End but get the opportunity to do so, don't bother, it's poo poo Got a decent jumper from them once
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Feb 15, 2023 17:19
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Angepain posted:Got a decent jumper from them once I wonder if land's end gets a lot of jumpers. It looks high up from that photo
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Jesus Christ, I know politicians tend to be either unpopular or unknown, but those are apocalyptically bad stats even by the standards of popularity polls. It's less an issue of popularity as it is that Sturgeon has been the sun the SNP orbit. A lot of the time SNP & Sturgeon have basically meant the same thing (though amusingly she really never got pegged with Supreme Leader chat except maybe during the Salmond trial). There's a reason the most prominent SNP politicians are at Westminster rather than Holyrood, her shadow doesn't stretch that far.
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:If you haven't been to Land's End but get the opportunity to do so, don't bother, it's poo poo Yeah just go 10 mins down the road to Porthcurno and be at the best beach in the UK (or don't because I don't want it to get any busier shh).
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Aphex- posted:Yeah just go 10 mins down the road to Porthcurno and be at the best beach in the UK (or don't because I don't want it to get any busier shh). Some good beaches in the Hebridies. loving cold a lot of the time but pristine & empty
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forkboy84 posted:Some good beaches in the Hebridies. loving cold a lot of the time but pristine & empty Yeah the Hebridies are on my list of places to go, would love to do a bikepacking trip there!
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Jesus Christ, I know politicians tend to be either unpopular or unknown, but those are apocalyptically bad stats even by the standards of popularity polls. I think it's more of a combination of her not having had a '2nd in command' plus her resignation actually being quite surprising and so there's never been any "WHO WILL REPLACE STURGEON?" media narrative along with the fact that the UK wide political psychodrama still overshadows Holyrood in the news especially when it's been the clickbait clownshow we've experienced for the last few years. People just really don't pay attention to politicians unless they're being rammed down their throats by the news.
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Yeah, I've got no idea who's big in Holyrood apart from Sturgeon; for all I know, she's got various potential successors lined up already. More generally, holy poo poo, politics is depressing right now. I had so much hope in Labour, and now it's firmly in the hands of those horrible shits, and we on the left let it happen like idiots. I'm probably going for Greens come the next election but I'm really feeling the lack of a forceful left wing party to support.
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Feb 15, 2023 17:43
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better go camping in Scotland during the Spring before the landlords ban it there too I suppose
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Diet Crack posted:better go camping in Scotland during the Spring before the landlords ban it there too I suppose Our laws of right to roam are law though
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forkboy84 posted:It's less an issue of popularity as it is that Sturgeon has been the sun the SNP orbit. A lot of the time SNP & Sturgeon have basically meant the same thing (though amusingly she really never got pegged with Supreme Leader chat except maybe during the Salmond trial). Sturgeon is the sun and also casts a shadow? Great metaphor work!
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Curveball from Abbot https://twitter.com/thenewsagents/status/1625883538435235841?s=46&t=ee4bKDimwxKjCXj9Vstg8w
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Hey you mentioned you were reading your way through Marvel comics. Are you using the Complete Marvel Reading Order? I spotted someone there called forkboy and they're in Scotland and also like pro wrestling 
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Feb 15, 2023 18:21
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Any excuse to go and harass Jeremy outside his house https://twitter.com/i_ammukhtar/status/1625899145817993223?s=46&t=ee4bKDimwxKjCXj9Vstg8w
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This isn't UKPol but it is Pol, and a good watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF1-1CNggQA Australian YouTuber FriendlyJordies, who started as a comedy channel, has been doing some investigations and exposés on Australian politics, the gambling industry, and stuff like that, for a few years... Then a few months ago, his house got firebombed. This is a vid about who might have done that and just generally explains some of the vids he's been making etc. and it's really good. Makes me wish there were an equivalent person doing this poo poo and getting the same traction in the UK (minus the firebombing, ideally).
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Rarity posted:Would be real interesting if Corbyn tries to join the Greens. I'm guessing they wouldn't even let him in I wouldn't have thought they would either. I went to the inner Hebrides on a yacht once. I'll never joke about Force 8 gales again. The plane of the boat deck was at 90 degrees to the plane of the sea. Scary. At least I was snug & dry in my £12 bright yellow plastic waterproofs but the people who had hired the boat (I was a hanger-on as the friend of their daughter) were all in expensive gear and were soaked through within minutes. We went to Skye, Mull, Tiray, Rum where there was a 'summer only' hotel with a huge 'orchestrion' - huge organ pipes, played with cards with holes in (like pianolas) - one of only 3 ever made. 
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smellmycheese posted:Any excuse to go and harass Jeremy outside his house https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1625918105439404033?t=BM2B_v6imi2aRbv2TVNS_Q&s=19 He's going to continue fighting in parliament?
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Shades of the 2016 Leadership election where he was on the ballot without needing nominations. What's the process here? Does he actually have to be formally deselected by the CLP, or can the NEC override that because he doesn't have the whip? Very funny if Starmer actually can't ban him from standing.
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I'm pretty sure he can, the idea is probably that the local party will back Corbyn as candidate and the NEC would then have to go on record as formally overriding the democratic will of the party members and 'forcing' a guy who just wants to be loyal party MP to stand as an independent. Of course given that Starmer's response to questions about 'what happens if Corbyn stands as an independent and is backed by groups affiliated with Labour' was quote:Asked whether he would put Momentum “on notice”, Starmer said: “Well, I have many powers and duties and responsibilities in the Labour party, but that one is not for me, I’m afraid. But look, whatever group or individual in the Labour party, I think the message from this morning couldn’t be clearer.
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New Labour: for when you want Tory policies with, uh, different faces?
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The Labour Party can gently caress right off. Don't know what I'll vote next GE but it won't be Labour (and defo not tory obviously). I'll take a gander at Green's or Plaid Cymru's offerings. Even though Labour are the only ones who can get the tories out round here. What's the point if you're going to be stuck with Tory IABNO. And what's more I've never really liked the person who is going to be the Labour candidate so I won't feel lack of loyalty as I might if someone I actually liked was standing. :bitingnoseofftospiteface:
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Apraxin posted:the NEC would then have to go on record as formally overriding the democratic will of the party members The NEC are happy to do just about anything if they think they can make it happen and trampling all over candidate selections is one of their favourite pastimes.
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LAB -20 in the polls hopefully but that's wishful thinking. I don't know who to vote for either, it's a poo poo show at this point with 2 predominant parties on the same side and voting for anyone else won't bring any significant changes for.. ages. If anyone has some spine left there will be a mass exodus from the party but spines are not abundant in Westminster.
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It's utterly depressing and demoralising because I live in a safe Tory seat (bad enough), but now don't want to vote for either of the parties that might have a tiny chance of kicking out my local creepy shithead because they're functionally Tories with different rosettes. (I'm guessing my local Labour candidate won't be a member of the SCG or Momentum, somehow...)
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The continued conflation with antisemitism and anti-capitalism is just so cynical and racist. Might as well start saying that Jewish people are greedy little goblins like in JK Lovecraft's books, but Labour considers that a protected characteristic.
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sebzilla posted:Shades of the 2016 Leadership election where he was on the ballot without needing nominations. Starmer can move to have him punted from the party rather than just the PLP, and on any old spurious bullshit he wants. He has control of the NEC, he has a contempt for party democracy necessary to run roughshod like Corbyn never did because he's naive
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so how does it work - he is removed from local office by ??? and then candidates to fill his vacancy apply to the NEC and get long listed and whittled down from there?
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That's fine, Starmer set precedent with Kim Leadbeater that you don't even need to be a properly vetted member of the party to run as the constituency candidate, so Corbyn could just join again and Islington North CLP could nominate him to run while the payment is still processing.
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