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Kalli posted:Yeah, pretty easy to take on, pretty impossible for the Rams to trade. If they mark him as a post-June trade/cut they would technically have a cap savings this year and next. I just can’t see Stafford demanding out right now though.
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Carr is for sure good enough to win a superbowl.
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John Gruden, sans the terrible roster management and access to email, could have schemed his way to a SB with Carr
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BlindSite posted:Carr is for sure good enough to win a superbowl. I think people aren't realizing just how bad those Raiders teams were over the last decade. Without Carr they would be more pathetic than the Browns in that time period.
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Ostentatious posted:I think people aren't realizing just how bad those Raiders teams were over the last decade. Would you say that Carr..........drove those teams forward 
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Ostentatious posted:I think people aren't realizing just how bad those Raiders teams were over the last decade. Post the artisanal historical defensive rankings of the raiders while Carr was QB
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BlindSite posted:Carr is for sure good enough to win a superbowl. if Foles and Stafford could I don't see why Carr couldn't
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indigi posted:if Foles and Stafford could I don't see why Carr couldn't Stafford is better than Carr but the Foles point is fair. I think the main argument is that getting Carr to the superbowl is going to take a loaded team, he is absolutely not dragging a mediocre team or coach to the SB. More importantly for coaching job security, Carr is definitely good enough to get a mediocre team to the playoffs (especially in the NFC)
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Relentlessboredomm posted:I think the main argument is that getting Carr to the superbowl is going to take a loaded team, he is absolutely not dragging a mediocre team or coach to the SB.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Stafford is better than Carr but the Foles point is fair. Carr is much better than Stafford.
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Michael Lombardi predicting that Carr is going to Carolina because they are very Christian. Best podcast ever.
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Saints to Catholic hard agree
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Carr and Stafford are about equal in my book. Foles is a whole lot shitter.
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I'd put them on the same tier with Carr a bit ahead (due Stafford's age + health mostly), but even if you think Stafford is way better, he won on a fantastic team (and got a good draw in the Super Bowl). when people say "[random QB] could win if he was on a stacked team," they mean a team like the 2021 Rams Stafford looked phenomenal against TB iirc but I think Carr could replicate his 2021 on a team with as much coaching and player talent as the Rams had. might throw fewer TDs, probably throw fewer picks as well
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The used Carr market has never been hotter!!!!
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Post the artisanal historical defensive rankings of the raiders while Carr was QB From what I remember on this point is his entire tenure as the starter he's had the single worst defense and one of the worst defenses over a decade of all time. Is he going to be one of the elite guys who can drag a mid team to a Super Bowl absolutely not, neither is basically anyone else though. Put him on a decent team and he gets you in the playoffs every year. The Raiders are going to be so bad next year lmao
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Last or close to it in literally every category https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1608467750489407489 A miracle he got them to playoffs twice still even despite it
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Those are almost all counting stats though, so doesn’t the offense (and the QB) take some of that blame for not staying on the field more? Being 32nd out of 32 takes a strong effort from everyone involved. Edit: I’m sure the rate stats are arrestingly terrible, too. Racing Stripe fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Feb 17, 2023 |
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Racing Stripe posted:Those are almost all counting stats though, so doesn’t the offense (and the QB) take some of that blame for not staying on the field more? Being 32nd out of 32 takes a strong effort from everyone involved. as someone who watched the raiders for this entire decade they were just that bad on defense and have gone through 5 offensive coordinators (Greg Olsen twice), 5 defensive coordinators and four head coaches. The Raiders offense in that time, no matter how competent had to deal with the team getting carved up on pass defense. Nick Mullens threw for 500 yards on them once. They went three years without a defensive touchdown. Believe me when I say the organization is a dumpster fire and the defense is legendarily inept.
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I defer to your expertise. Carr is just a complete unknown to me. I’ve seen zero to one raiders games per season during his tenure. I kinda wish I still watched all three Sunday games plus Monday and sometimes Thursday the way I used to. I also am happy that I don’t.
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Yeah i mean dont get me wrong Carr isn’t amazing but he’s definitely pretty good which is what a lot of teams will need.
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Carr is at least a dependable starter which is becoming a rare thing in the league. I think he's pretty good even if he's not a top guy. You could do a lot worse and he's probably going to win you more games than he'd lose you.
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Carr is a great ball thrower and good quarterback. The second you move him off his spot with some pressure the play is over though.
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Codependent Poster posted:Carr is at least a dependable starter which is becoming a rare thing in the league. I think he's pretty good even if he's not a top guy. You could do a lot worse and he's probably going to win you more games than he'd lose you. And he's a lot less likely to get hurt compared to the other QBs on the market. There's probably at least 12 teams that could immediately benefit from 17 games of healthy, above-average quarterbacking.
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Yeah that's another thing: in 9 years in the league he's only missed four games. One in 2016 due to injury, one in 2017 due to injury, and the last two games this year where he got benched and stepped away
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Pron on VHS posted:Carr is a great ball thrower and good quarterback. The second you move him off his spot with some pressure the play is over though. Yup
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The team leak on why he doesn't take a beating... https://twitter.com/QuincyAvery/status/1625615748356775942
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Speaking of which: https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1626644129819099136?s=46&t=yQb-mNYice4P23B1vR1DVg
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Jets would be a really good fit. Maybe they realize pining for Aaron Rodgers has never worked out for anyone
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Derek Carr on the Jets with those skill positions and defense would be a really interesting team.
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Glad they’re at least exploring the option of Carr. He had his Pro Bowl seasons under Todd Downing.
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It’s almost like his brother got beaten to a pulp and broken taking sacks and big hits on extremely lovely teams as well. I’m noticing a through line.
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Ostentatious posted:Jets would be a really good fit. Maybe they realize pining for Aaron Rodgers has never worked out for anyone They should be exploring all options. Lamar the top among them, followed by Carr, Rodgers, and Jimmy in that order ideally
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Chris James 2 posted:They should be exploring all options. Lamar the top among them, followed by Carr, Rodgers, and Jimmy in that order ideally Diva Cupcake posted:I think my preference is
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If you have a Hackett/Carr pairing are you really looking at anything more than a wild card spot and maybe 1 playoff win if you're lucky? That is why I prefer Rodgers and his higher (much higher) ceiling.
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